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Rushrox

Is Barack Obama a natural born citizen?

YES. Oh you think so too huh? Well tell that to my parents. My father says that Barack Obama's great aunt said that he was born in Kenya, that multiple hospitals in Hawaii claim to be his birthplace, that none of these hospitals have released any information about him, and that his birth certificate was forged. Where the hell do the rumors get started and how am I supposed to fight such insane allegations? Is there an obviously unbiased website that proves the truth to this nonsense?

Posted Apr 21, 2010, 2:45 AM UTC

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matthank•

There is no website that will prove something to someone who does not want to believe it.

So, no.

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joeblough•

I wish I could up-vote that comment more than once!

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backpackwayne•

I have a T-shirt that has Obama's birth certificate on it.

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L_link•

Knowing Chicago politics if he was not a citizen it would have been brought up long ago.

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radix2•

factcheck or snopes?

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Enlightenment777•

Who Spread It?

KKK, skinheads, bigoted white people!

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baxter45•

Even if he wasn't born in the U.S. his mom was a U.S. citizen, which makes him a citizen.

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RushroxOP•

I think he has to be born in the united states to run in a presidential election though doesn't he?

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shiny_brine•

The term "natural born citizen" is not clearly defined. Most scholars accept that anyone born under conditions that make them a citizen is a natural born citizen. To that end, "Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years" is considered a natural born citizen.

Moot point since he was born in the US. Your hospital won't release your medical records either. It's illegal. The state of Hawaii has certified that he was born in that state and by that alone he meets all requirements.

Those who can't accept that have been drinking too much kool-aid.

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diamond•

The state of Hawaii has certified that he was born in that state and by that alone he meets all requirements.

It's also worth pointing out that the current governor of Hawaii is a Republican. If there was anything to this story, if there was any legitimate doubt at all, I think it's safe to say that she wouldn't have done that.

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baxter45•

My point was that even if the birther's main argument were true, they would still be wrong.

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shiny_brine•

I was trying to assist your post by stating the facts to the other poster (Rushrox).

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baxter45•

I don't think they differentiate between citizens like that.

Edit: Doesn't look like it.

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baxter45•

You should know what you're talking about before you go calling people names.

Edit: I'll make it even easier for you:

People who have U.S. citizens in their direct line of ancestry. If your parents or grandparents were U.S. citizens, you may not realize that U.S. citizenship has been passed down the line, even if you were born elsewhere and your parents or grandparents haven't lived in the United States for a long time.

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joeblough•

I think you might want to check your facts there. (Really, this is just my nice way of saying that you're wrong).

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vincentmlabarbera•

This is not a joke: Obama was born on a cold, cloudy morning on the Saturnian moon Titan! Never mind that he's not American, he's not human!

Wake up, people!

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Clsjajll•

Jimmy Carter was the first US president born in a hospital. I'd like to know if anyone is checking for birth certificate authenticity for the 38 presidents that served before him. Those men could have been born anywhere, if you ask me.

Millard Fillmore? Check out this picture and tell me this guy isn't a direct ancestor of Adolf Hitler!

If Millard (a Unitarian whose mother's name was Phoebe, by the way) wasn't a foreign-born ancestor of der Fuhrer, why hasn't he denied it?

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tsoldrin•

I think it's pretty obvious he was born in Hawaii and I find all the evidence rather convincing. I don't think it's a crime however for someone to question it.

A huge part of the problem with this issue and what really snowballed it to the levels it's become (or really became, it's died down some now) - is the crazy left showing mock outrage that anyone could possibly question the birthplace of Obama. The fact that they insinuate that it's because he's black is even more of an insult. MANY presidential candidates have had their credentials questioned INCLUDING John McCain (imo he is not a natural born citizen but a court never decided that) and in the not too distant past Mitt Romney's father. ALL of these other people who were questioned on their authenticity (some of them being barred from the office too) were white! What's more, whenever anyone asks about a birth certificate the crazy left froths at the mouth, points to the document which everyone has already seen and screams that IS the birth certificate - it's NOT. THE birth certificate has a fucking footprint on it and a real signature. The document in question however is LEGAL PROOF both that a birth certificate exists and the person in question is a natural born citizen - it's all the documentation needed. Why can't you just fucking say that, instead of lying about? One would think that the nutty fucking left made every effort to provoke the whole birther nonsense and the damn tiger tail slipped their stupid little hands.

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