Watching HvHvH....

Heroes v. Healers v. Hustlers

Why was Ben allowed to play the idol before the voting? I thought it was a rule you couldn’t use it until after voting. Usually a player would just hold it as leverage but because of the ability to do that, why would anyone in trouble not just play it before and force everyone to change. Seems like an unfair move according to the rules or it was another thing production changed for Ben. Enlighten me

Posted May 29, 2019, 3:57 PM UTC

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NaterXander•

Cause that season was all about Ben and allowing him to do whatever he wanted to stay in the game and win and if they had to bend countless rules or make new rules or do absolutely anything for him they would.

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sticky_situati0n•

That was the moment that confirmed it to me that the show had officially jumped the shark

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PardonTheWalrusTusksSandra•

I really hate that he was allowed to do this and Jeff verified the idol for him. It sets a really bad precedent, since now on a future season if someone tries to bluff at tribal council with a fake idol, the other alliance can just insist that they play it before the votes are cast to verify that it's real.

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Virtuoso1980•

Well yeah they can insist on anything, but it’s still the idol owner’s prerogative if they would play it before voting. For me it gives another layer to the hidden idol and possibly makes for more entertainment.

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Knickstape08Russell Hantz•

They still could have voted for him. I don’t think it was unfair, Ben just gave it to Jeff basically saying “I’m playing it 100%” because Devon said he thought Ben would bluff and not play it. Jeff didn’t say “ok no one can vote for Chrissy or Ben, everyone else is fair game.”

Edit: and to answer your question why anyone in trouble wouldn’t just do that A) People in trouble usually aren’t told by everyone left in the game they are going home no matter what. Ben tried to get something going with Ashley and Mike and they blew him off and said to his face he was next to go. That’s just awful gameplay b) keeping an idol secret allows you to have more voting power.

There’s a reason Ben is the only one to ever play an idol early and in 3 season after 35 no one still has done it. It’s not a great move but for Ben it made sense. It also had no effect on the outcome of that tribal, Ashley was going home either way.

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kjafarBen Driebergen•

^ This. It literally made no difference that Ben played his idol early, if anything it was to his detriment. Since he had played it, people knew he was immune and they were able to vote whoever they wanted to vote out.

If anything, Ben should've kept it till after the votes since his target was Mike.

Now if he was able to play his idol AFTER the votes are read, that's a different story.

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linesinaconversationAubry•

Except the part where Jeff gave confirmation that it was real before the votes were cast. I guess that's not really Ben's fault, but it was absolute bullshit that Jeff confirmed that.

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kjafarBen Driebergen•

Yeah, but Ben had already played it at that stage so Ben couldn't reverse his move once Jeff confirmed it.

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ceoobrabro2424Cirie Fields is the G.O.A.T.•

Dom Abatte played an idol early, get your facts straight boy !!!!!!!!!!!

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Knickstape08Russell Hantz•

I’ve blocked Ghost Island from my memory so I don’t remember lol. I’m going to assume it was the fake one? But he still got votes even though they thought it was real.

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chrisz118David•

It definitely should not have happened, but allowing that actually benefits the majority alliance since they have control over who goes.

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