Abortions in UK 'highest ever recorded'
bbc.co.uk/news/health-48635148
bbc.co.ukPosted Jun 14, 2019, 12:11 PM UTC
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bbc.co.ukBut remember, if abortion was outlawed, every mother would definetly just get a back alley abortion 😉
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Mainly due to my own working class. Parents raise their kids to be indifferent to pretty much everything, and as someone who was raised in the working class it's predominant. The girls grow up promiscuous like their mothers and this is the end result.
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Yes blame it on the women. SNORE.
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I'm telling the truth. I was literally raised around it you moron.
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Yes, women are the gatekeepers of sex absent a rape. This is ancient knowledge that witless modern folks fail to understand.
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Yeah.... no.
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Urm, I'm fairly sure that would be strongly against Catholic teaching. We're not onto bodily mutilation, nor adverse to women enjoying sex (within marriage) - it's part of the unitive aspect. God gave them those parts for a reason. And female orgasm actually aids in *contraception - it serves a definite purpose.
Besides, it takes two to Tango. Might aswell argue for chemically castrating men, until they get married.
Edit: *meant conception, not contraception.
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Safe, legal, and rare. God save my country!
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Doesn’t surprise me. UK (and all of Europe) has steadily became more and more secular. To secularist, babies in the womb are simply a “clump of cells” 🤦♂️
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Wherever people tell me that I have ask them what are we? Under that viewpoint I could argue for killing anything for any reason, it's just a bunch of cells after all! Weak reasoning for an unspeakable act.
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The more disturbing thing is that it is only a "clump of cells" when it is unwanted. There was a news story of some people stabbing a woman to cause her to miscarry, and the news and everyone online were going "I'm glad the baby survived".
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Yet they don't see the irony when they wear "baby on board" badges on the tube.
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Good start!
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I hate how the conclusion is "we need more access to contraception" and not "We need to look at whether rampant reckless sexual activity is a good thing"
Yeah. Abortion between first legalised year and now has increased something like tenfold? And I very much doubt access to contraception was greater back in the 60s. So what else might have happened in the meantime, I wonder?
Those "progressive" values, of secularism and liberalism, which have led to a more "equal", "tolerant" and alltogether more wonderful society (apparently). Meanwhile I'm walking through working class council estates, with 12 year old girls dressed in hotpants and cropped tops, shouting sexually suggestive advances at me.
12 year olds? Do they have dads and does any of their mums know who their dads are? Are their parents working?
Probably veering towards a majority no on most of those questions.
Not that I wish state that as passing personal judgment on any of them (nor deny their culpability) - the UK working classes have been screwed over by political ideologies on the left, right and center over the past 40 years or so. I just remember going out for evening runs (I've relocated now) and feeling so desperately sad at the crazy state we've gotten to, in society.
But people have cheap holidays and a wide rage of takeaway https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMTRr8T_bXY&t=2531s
Sex sadly is the new god. I’m going to get a bit personal here but I don’t know why is it even such a big deal. I’m married and I love my wife, but honestly I feel the physical act is overrated and at least for me, without any love behind it to me there’s no point and honestly if I were single I would be celibate. Maybe my view isn’t correct but honestly I find that without the love it’s not worth it. It just becomes a bodily function to many. It’s sad that those voices are what dominate our culture and in a sense always have even when people talked better, I’m sure they sadly didn’t practice.
Why not both? They are not mutually exclusive.
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"I kill children because a one bed flat is expensive" is probably the worst justification I've heard to date. Even for the internet, that one's bad.
This translates to anxiety about the economy. It’s not a bad take, as it's actually a pretty rational reason to not have kids (I.e., I can’t afford them) and it's certainly a more legitimate justification than the assumption that people have abortion for shits and giggles and because of wanton sexcapades or whatever.
Ignore the real reasons people don't want kids all you want, but you'll come no closer to ending abortion. Hot takes contemptuous of the real world reasons for not wanting a family are just going to perpetuate the status quo.
Yes, I am contemptuous of murderers. Shocking.
What perpetuates the status quo are people who pretend like abortion will go away if we just somehow magically give people more money. Usually the people who say that are those that want more welfare - shocking. Almost like they have a conclusion and then fit the issue to get there. I'm sure that's not the case though, right?
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At what multiple of the average wage will UK women stop killing their babies, do you think?
You are naive to think that economic factors won't make people do desperate things.
I think we can agree that the plight of the modern working class is a cruel joke. We can acknowledge that and still say that rampant fornication is objectively harmful to society.
I'm no fan of the economic policies of the current government, but I think the issue with blaming austerity for this, is that abortion rates have actually dropped marginally since 2007.
You do have a point, a big part of fixing our world will be abolishing liberalism, capitalism, and all forms of modern society in general. This is the position of the Church. We should have compassion for fellow sinners who exist under these horrific circumstances. However, that doesn't remove the accountability of individuals.
Its London everyone tries to live there nothing can be done with housing prices
Its all in the mentality of people. i know a family that struggles to make their end s meet while living in a home that has only two bedrooms and they did not kill their child because a doctor said that the kid will have a heart disease. Some people think abortion is morally wrong so they wont do it in any case or some people get them because they did not expect or prepare for a kid