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HyperKillDriver

Why is there such a strong hate against JP on reddit ?

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I've been a reader of Peterson for quite some time, and recently noticed that there is a strong hate boner from reddit towards him. What's the reason ? I'm evidently refering to that r/bestof post where someone was vehemently attacking his lobster analogy.

I also found that many people are angry at him getting the attention of young white people ?

And incredibly violent messages like this one:

''Jordan Peterson does not know a wit about sociology, history or philosophy. That's why he tries to analyze human behavior in a vacuum that ignores one of the most essential elements, namely our culture. That's why he dismisses great minds who furthered our understanding of how culture affects us as leftist propaganda because he would be out of his depth if he actually had to argue against their theories.

I'm not saying that his comparisons would make sense even if you could put human behaviour in such a vacuüm. You already pointed out how absurd it is regardless.

He's either one of the smartest men alive trying to see how much dumb shit he can get people on board with or he's an idiot pretending not to be one. I honestly can't tell.''

Posted Jun 18, 2019, 6:22 AM UTC

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therosxYes! Right! Exactly!•

Reddit is mostly miserable internet people avoiding work.

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StationaryTransience•

The irony!

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therosxYes! Right! Exactly!•

lol indeed!

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ee4m•

The media found it profitable to run hit pieces on him, so they did.

Before that they foudn it profitable to run outragous woke capitalism pieces, so they did.

JP is right to challenge neoliberal ideologies like woke capitalism and shake things up, but I don't believe what he seems to want it replaced with is better, but then I dont know what he really wants because Im not him.

Encouraging people to find meaning is great though.

edit - he is also a slick entrepreneur, idk if there was ever an academic that converted it or culture wars into a business so successfully, I cant think of one, so that is part of what he is doing.

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jeramoon•

Comments over on r/atheism are beyond hateful. I don't understand hating someone you don't really know with such passion because you don't agree with them.

Reddit hates JBP because the vast majority of Reddit is now really MSM groupthink. This has infiltrated even r/conspiracy now. Censorship is the new stake where we burn the witches that promote free speech. Plain and simple.

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Tokentaclops•

I just want to point out that assuming everyone who doesn't like or agree with Jordan Peterson does so because of 'MSM' is rather arrogant, condescending, and a bit of a cop-out as it is just a way of shrugging of criticism without taking it seriously.

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dutyandlabor•

I definitely agree with what you're saying,but when you consistently see the same copy-pasted arguments that are disputing points Peterson never even made in the first place, it is clear that most Peterson hate on Reddit is misplaced. It happens with all kinds of people, not just Peterson. Group think is very real.

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jeramoon•

Assuming that Dr. Peterson is a conservative christian and that his rhetoric abuses women and transgender people is beyond arrogant and the biggest cop-out of all. I'm a 33 year old female with 4 younger sisters and every single one of them has never once watched a video or lecture of his but they all have this view of him. Why?

Because they read it in a hit piece, published on the msm.

Comments on r/atheism are downright abusive and they don't even bother to take any of JBP work into consideration. Example: A user posted to that sub asking, "As an Atheist, and someone who admires Jordan Peterson's work...can I benefit from reading his book, 12 Rules For Life?"

The comments that followed were unbelievable. "The only thing that book is good for is toilet paper, a bon fire, etc.", "JP is a sexist nazi", etc.

What do you call that??

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Tokentaclops•

People exaggerate about and shit on everything on the internet, so that's not much of an argument (I could find similar remarks about literally any other public intellectual). It also isn't reasonable to take those kinds of off-hand comments as an example of what people opposing him genuinely believe (or to ask me to defend them).

Let me ask you this. Did you ever read/watch anything that was critical of Jordan Peterson's work that you did not consider a hit-piece? (and I don't mean a discussion about some minute detail of his work like his debates with Sam Harris but rather critical of his approach/position as a whole)

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jeramoon•

Unfortunately, I have not come across an article that really wasn't a hit piece. I'm not sure why that is...they come across my google feed because I do search out his videos on YouTube. It may be noteworthy that I do not participate in Facebook, IG or any other platform than Reddit and YT.

Personally, I do not agree with everything he says. I'm not on board with his stance on climate change, capitalism and as a polyamorous woman I am not too excited about the concept of forced monogamy yet, I understand the value in it in child rearing (I am also a mother) FWIW.

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StationaryTransience•

You call that "violent criticism"? It is quite balanced and far from what criticism is warranted.

If you do a search you can find a lot of answers to your question.

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[deleted]•

Ive been thinking the same thing! it's so confusing. can't put my finger on it

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zowhat•

Because the philosophers on reddit think everyone but them is an idiot. But the opposite is true.

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[deleted]•

It is a side affect of living in the parent’s basement for too long. 😂😜

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Tokentaclops•

This was originally as a response to another comment in this post but I'll just copy-paste it as a main comment too (so OP will see it)

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I'll link a few critiques which I consider to have some strong arguments.

-The first one is in my opinion the best one that lays out the fundamental problems with his theory. It's a longer and quite theatrical video though, so I hope you don't mind that (you'll notice that to be a trend in some more leftist youtube channels). Personally, I like the production quality.

-The second one is a bit more academic (postmodernism), this channel has a lot of good in-depth videos about post-modernism and the like by the way

-The third one is also VERY theatrical and more tongue-in-cheek (she doesn't take Peterson very seriously so if you can't stand that, skip this one)

-The fourth one is VERY long (over an hour) but is basically an introduction into the Marxist narrative from an actual Marxist as a response to Jordan's spreading of misinformation about Marxism (so you can decide for yourself whether the other side of the story sounds reasonable). Ending with some musings about Workplace democracy as a possible (non-communist) socialist solution to some current capitalist issues.

-the last one isn't about Jordan Peterson perse, but it is a playlist about the alt-right (from a leftist perspective) which might make you understand better why leftists oppose Jordan Peterson (and no, I'm not saying he is alt-right).

I think these should provide some more nuanced insights into why some people might not regard Peterson favourably without misunderstanding or misrepresenting him in any way.

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Genshed•

Counterpoint: why is there such fervent love for JBP on Reddit?

Outside of Reddit, I see very little attention paid to him, either positive or negative. In my offline life, I can think of two people who even know who he is.

I think of him as much like L. Ron Hubbard right after "Dianetics" was published; if enough alert, critical attention had been paid then, we wouldn't have Miscavige now.

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BreakinMadly•

You think that’s bad visit r/enoughpetersonspam

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