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pschart

Need advice for *simple*, healthy and frugal eating.

I'm not sure this is the right place for this; I'm definitely looking for frugal suggestions but it goes beyond that. My story is long and sad and boring to anyone who doesn't care about me so I'll try to tl;dr the context: My wife wants a divorce; has been carrying on an affair for over 6 months; the "man" in question is--nee, was--a friend and is also my boss. :(

So, here's the thing, I have severe depression which has (naturally) worsened of late. I'm in therapy and trying to "turn my life around" a bit but one thing I've been having a lot of trouble with lately is eating regularly. I just don't have any desire to do so but, of course, I need to. I go to the grocery store, look at things and start crying then I just leave. I'm sorry, this is probably way too much information, I'll digress and get to the point.

Can anyone offer suggestions for things I can subsist on that might also be frugal, healthy and easy? I don't care if it tastes like cardboard smeared with wet cement, I just need things that take little effort (for I have little effort to give) but will keep me from wasting away to nothing (I've lost ~30+ pounds unwillingly since this came out). On the other hand, I'm trying to get and be healthy without breaking the bank.

Help? Please?

EDIT Wow, I had hoped for but not expected such a response. I was AFK for a while and I come back to 69 comments. Thanks to everyone for all the suggestions/advice. I'm reading through them now and will comment where appropriate, but wanted to give a group-thanks to everyone. Thanks.

Posted May 18, 2010, 6:08 PM UTC · edited

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JohnnyBeagle•

Cabbage - make cole slaw or similar - cabbage is cheap.... Sardines - buy ones from Portugal, packed in olive oil. Drain and mash up with Dijon mustard (or mustard of preference), spread on toast. Part of depression can be lifted with increase of Omega-3. The two items above are loaded with Omega-3, cheap, and (to me) tasty. FYI, I battled depression for a few years - was even hospitalized for it. Buy eggs that are listed with Omega-3 as well. Green leafy vegetables are good - so buy them if you see them on sale. Bokchoy is really good for you. Just stir fry it in a little oil, season with soy sauce. If you do not feel like eating, invite friends over for dinner or lunch...that will force you to cook & eat.

Good luck.

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kodemage•

Part of depression can be lifted with increase of Omega-3.

[citation needed]

Sounds like you're selling fish oil to me.

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surlier•

Here are a bunch of studies about omega-3 fatty acid and its effect on depression. Some are supportive, some are not so much.

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GutterMaiden•

I have read theories about this millions of places, and seen it in a few documentaries. It's not proven but there are studies that support it, and some people swear by it. Doctors are down with it because unlike antidepressants, there are no side effects.

Citation

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kodemage•

The only problem with your citation is that it's about psychotic behavior not depressive behavior which are completely different things. Fish oil is not a mental health panacea.

Though, I'll agree. Besides slightly looser stools there are no real side effects of consuming fish oil.

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GutterMaiden•

Uh, what? Pyscheducation.org is mostly about bipolar - that is not pyschosis, that's a mood disorder. As in depression, and mania - and not even necessarily mania. I'm bipolar II and most of what I suffer from is depression. Mood instability is definitely not "psychotic behavior".

If you scroll down to the table there's ... a whole bunch of studies cited that where the condition studied is depression. 9 out of the 16 studies are about depression , if you count bipolar depression that's 12. Only one of the studies even mentions psychosis, and that's in at study about schizophrenia - the word psychosis only shows up on the page twice!

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JohnnyBeagle•

Maybe I am! But I do not think so... Nothing fishy here

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pschartOP•

Thank you, thank you. These are exactly the types of suggestions I'm looking for. I'm finding it difficult to muster up the energy to do any sort of "real" cooking because it just makes me more depressed ("sigh, another lonely meal by myself...") so I've just been avoiding it. These are all things I think I can do. Thanks again, Johnny.

And thanks also for the well-wishing, I'm trying desperately to not let this destroy me.

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jabokiebean•

as somebody else that suffered from depression, Johnny's point about eating with friends will go a long way. Getting over depression was difficult (for me) alone, and by forcing myself to spend time around other people, especially friends, was a great help. Not to mention if you have people over for a meal at your place, they might invite you to one at theirs and you get a free meal out of it.

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pschartOP•

I try to do this, unfortunately my circle of friends (small before this whole thing) has been drastically reduced due to the fact that "the other man" was my friend and most of my "friends" are friends with him, too. It's a much worse situation than even my tl;dr indicates, but I do have a few friends left and I will make a concerted effort to invite them over (if they can stomach being around such an emotional wreck! I (half-)kid!).

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wakalixes•

Make new friends. I lost everyone in my situation, and working on making new friends made a world of difference. Making new friends also forces you to be social and it helps you lift the clouds and be less introspective and gloomy. Get out there and meet people, even if you don't feel like it.

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JohnnyBeagle•

I tell people with depression that there is one person in this world who can help them, and then I bring them to a mirror. You need to work on yourself, stop the automatic negative thoughts, and know with certainty that this current crap you are dealing with will end, it's just a matter of time. Therapy is key and I am glad that you are talking to someone. Meds are okay too, but only as a temporary aid (in my opinion). My first major bout of depression happened when I was in my 20's and I lost my first love. She left without warning after we were together for four years. I still think of her today and I am 55, married to a great woman, and father of two terrific sons.
So, don't expect to ever be able to free yourself completely of the pain. But do know that over time, you will be able to move on and just as this unexpected pain and suffering has entered your life, in time, unexpected joy and happiness will also enter - so keep your eyes wide open.

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pschartOP•

More great advice, JohnnyBeagle, and too true. I rationally understand all that but emotionally/psychologically...it's tough. I long for this day that seems so far in the future...

Thanks again, Johnny. It's nice of you to offer such sage advice to a total stranger.

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JohnnyBeagle•

My pleasure. If you ever need someone to talk to, just look me up.

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juliawise•

When I'm happy, I love to cook and eat. When I'm depressed, I don't love to do anything.

The way I feed myself is by making whatever food I feel like I can handle making, even if it's not "dinner". Waffles. Custard. Smoothies. Cornbread. At such times, I can't manage making multiple dishes, but I can get interested in a recipe enough to make one reasonably complex thing. Reading food blogs helps me get interested in a recipe.

Make too much and freeze it for the days when you really can't cook.

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pschartOP•

My problem is I don't feel like I can handle making anything. I'm just going to have to try and force myself to do it. I've bookmarked your link and will check out some of those blogs. Thanks!

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degustibus•

This won't destroy you because this too shall pass. Time heals all wounds and wounds all heels.

Hunger is the best sauce. You need to force yourself to get exercise, outdoors confers added benefits. If you live anywhere near a mountain or at least a strenuous hiking trail I highly suggest going outside and staying outside for a good while every day.

I wouldn't recommend seeking SSRIs to deal with depression because those drugs have lots of horrible side effects for lots of people and some studies suggest that they're no better than placebos. You should however see your primary care physician. Tell your doctor that your wife has been unfaithful and you want a full STD screen. Also ask for a general blood workup. Find out if you have any hormone problems (low testosterone, pituitary etc.) and what your overall health is like right now. If you're having sleep problems or occassional anxiety attacks then your doc may prescribe you an emergency use only supply of valium (one valium is a way better option for dealing with racing thoughts and restlessness than trying to drink yourself asleep).

Think about hobbies you never pursued because your wife didn't support your interest. Now you can do those things without her scrutiny, e.g. scuba dive, paintball, mountain bike, learn martial arts, car racing (a hobby that I enjoy but I wouldn't recommend at this moment given your circumstances is target shooting). If you were raised any particular religion I suggest seeking some solace in church or temple and even if that never appealed to you a church can be a good place to find some solitude as well as compassionate people and activities that aren't focused on dating.

Back to the subject of food: get yourself really hungry and then eat some high protein foods.

Keep us posted and perhaps you will want to take some pics of yourself and write a bit about your progress.

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pschartOP•

I like that, "Time heals all wounds and wounds all heels." Never heard that, but it's something to hope for since I feel the presence of many wounds and many heels in my life right now.

It's too late for me to avoid the drug route, I'm on one antidepressant (sertreline, or Zoloft, as it's commonly known) that I take in the morning and another (trazodone - not sure if it has a "brand name" but from what I understand it was developed as an antidepressant but in studies people had trouble staying awake, so now it's prescribed to people who are depressed and can't sleep) which I take at night to help me get to sleep. It seems to be helping (though it's only been a week) and I haven't noticed any side effects... yet. I had a bout with Prozac many years ago and the only side effect was that I could... well... "get it up" but it took forever to "finish" - and honestly my libido is measured in negative numbers right now so I don't really care about that. Drinking myself to sleep had been my self-prescribed medicine for a long time but I've given that (drinking) up completely because I know it's no cure, "helps" in the short term but only makes things worse.

I do have a hobby that has literally been shelved for quite a while that I hope to find the energy to get back in to: I build and fly RC airplanes (I also crash RC helicopters).

I'm an atheist so I'm afraid the church thing will offer no solace to me. I have considered trying to go to the UU "church" here, but even their "we're not really religious" take on things seems kind of...wishy washy to me. I don't know. I do need to meet new people since my circle of friends is now more like a point. Still, exercising is definitely something I'm trying to do more often. There are no mountains here, but plenty of forest and hiking trails.

As for keeping you posted/taking pics/writing about my "progress"... I fear that would be boring and even more off-topic here than this post probably is. I'll consider it, I suppose. At least a followup, maybe, if the r/frugallers will allow me an OT post...

In any case, thanks for the advice and encouragement.

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Toma-•

Walk too! Exercise makes a HUGE difference. Find a place where you can walk or adventure. Preferably around people as you might strike up a conversation and make some new friends. Or walk somewhere there is lots of nature. I find that always lifts the spirits. If you feel out of energy, a walk can perk you back up. (It seems like the opposite, but once you get moving your body starts waking up and working right)

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psilokan•

"sigh, another lonely meal by myself..."

Been there, I had a few months like that after my last big break up. All you can really do is push through it. I found myself eating at my computer or TV more too, that seemed to help. To be honest, I dont think I've sat at my own kitchen table more than twice in the last year :S

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space_cadet00•

I learned how to make a killer cabbage soup when I lived on my own on a very low budget...

Saute in a frying pan with some oil cut up carrots, broccoli, ... whatever you have in the house. potatoes work. season with salt and pepper. boil a pot of water with 1/4 of a head of cabbage chopped up. add the sauted veg. let simmer for however long you have (it can be ready in 5 minutes, or you can let it simmer for an hour to get really great flavor) season with salt and pepper. voila! You can add bouillon to give it more flavour if you want.

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JohnnyBeagle•

Our ancestors ate like this. It's far better than the crap we eat today.

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frnzy•

I am gonna try eating this tommorow!

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Get yourself a crockpot (slow cooker).

This is basically a real-world Wondrous Item. Put in shitty, cheap, tough meat, and out comes delicious, flavorful, tender meat. Put in a few pounds of pork (shouldn't be more than a couple dollars a pound), out comes holy-fuck-delicious pulled pork for sandwiches. Put in a bunch of vegetables, a 50 cent can of broth, some salt maybe, and whatever other leftovers you have sitting around, and you get cocksawesome soup/stew.

Also, potatoes are like $2 for five pounds and rice is good too.

EDIT: Oh yea, and a personal 2-quart slow cooker is about $20 on amazon.

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donttalknojive•

Upvoted for slightly obscure, completely marginal, and practically unrelated Dungeons and Dragons reference. Also because I've used a crockpot, and they could easily be magical.

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koggelmander•

Yesterday I tried making cheesy chicken breasts in my slow cooker, it came out a lot tastier than I expected. I basically threw some chicken breasts in the slow cooker, seasoned to taste (salt, pepper, garlic), and put in a couple of cans of Cream of Chicken soup (Bachelors) and a packet of Cheddar Cheese Sauce. I put it on high for 4 hours, and 15 minutes before I was ready to eat I put on a couple of cups of rice in my rice cooker. I had delicious, tender, cheesy chicken on rice for almost no effort, plus a couple of meals to throw in the freezer.

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Exactly! You have to try really hard to fuck up with a slow cooker. I did it once; it consisted of leaving four italian sausages in the pot at high for 28 hours. It almost set off the fire alarm.

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berlinbrown•

What kind of sauce, broth do you use?

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Whatever. You can make it yourself out of leftover bones or buy a can of broth from the soup aisle. I have had a lot of trouble making things with my crockpot that DON'T taste good. Better yet, if you forget you're cooking something and leave it for eight hours, it just turns into more awesome rather than fire.

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berlinbrown•

How is it different than boiling stuff in a large pot?

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thatmorrowguy•

Slow cookers tend to stay at about 175-185 degrees - below boiling point, and causes the meat to become very tender without making it just spongy. Wikipedia said it better than me though:

Some foods do not take well to boiling. In particular, cheaper cuts of meat with connective tissue and lean muscle fibre are suitable for stewing, and tastier than stews using expensive cuts; but if they are cooked for a short time the connective tissue and hard-worked muscles will make them tough and gristly while long boiling will dissolve the connective tissue, but the muscle will be dry and tough[6]. Long slow cooking (simmering) will soften the connective tissue without toughening the muscle. Boiling dissolves the connective tissue and enriches and thickens the cooking liquid; slow cooking leaves the gelatinised tissue in the meat, so that it may be advantageous to start with a richer liquid.

Even with foods that do not suffer from boiling, the temperature in a slow cooker is low enough to avoid badly overcooking food even if cooked for far longer than necessary. However, success does depend to some extent on timing, as in all cooking. Meat will become nearly tasteless or "raggy" if overcooked.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_cooker#Advantages

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GutterMaiden•

It takes like 4 hours to cook something instead of 40 minutes.

Slow cookers aren't really my thing, but I don't work 8 hours a day - for people who do, they're amazing, because you just throw everything into the pot and come home after work and you have a delicious cooked meal! Like freshtimes said, it especially rocks for shitty meat. 40 minute won't make a bad cut of meat tender, but 8 hours will.

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mikm•

Buy yourself a slow cooker (you can find them for under $20) and look up some recipes. Many recipes take little more effort than tossing stuff in and letting it sit overnight.

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pschartOP•

This is a good suggestion. I've got a crock pot already. My main concern here is the amount of food I'll end up with. But I have a freezer, I can try making "batches" and freezing single portions, maybe if I make enough different things, I can get to where I have something different each day. Thanks for the suggestion, mlkm.

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thatmorrowguy•

This website (and the cook book based upon it) is AMAZING for slow cooking. Some of the recipes are more work than others, but even the simple ones taste great. Believe me, nothing is better than coming home and the entire house smells like cooked meat.

After you're done, just divy it up into ready made "TV Dinners" and freeze them. Personally I love leftovers at work for lunch, but if that isn't your thing, a leftover rotation is fun to have too.

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pschartOP•

Thanks for the link! I will definitely be trying some of those and the "TV Dinners" thing.

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kodemage•

Yeah, the slow cooker can be a problem if you're not cooking for 4. You can tend to eat too much or you end up eating the same thing four times in a week.

Chili is really easy to make in the slow cooker. Couple cans of beans, tomatoes, and some gruond beef (I'd brown it in a frying pan first) all tossed in the crock pot. Add some chili powder and boom, chili with beans when you get home from work. Single servings of that really supplement your sandwiches from zombiedracula's post.

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elsagacious•

As long as you're using a slow cooker, why not get some whole chuck and cut it into chunks. It's better meat, and will taste better, and the price will be comparable, especially if you get it on the bone (which would also leave you with bones for soup).

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kodemage•

I prefer the texture of ground beef in chili instead of bigger chunks of meat. Though, grinding my on meat is something I'll consider doing in the future.

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GutterMaiden•

I hate using a microwave and I especially hate freakish tupperware containers in my freezer - I just end up throwing them out. But I live alone and ... like eating real food, not processed crap.

I cook batches of chili or curry or ... whatever, really. A while ago I made chicken pie filling from a rotisserie chicken and it probably wasn't the healthiest but man it was amazing comfort food.

I then divide it up into individual sized tin pans I buy from the grocery store, and freeze them. When mealtime comes up I just throw one in the oven on 400 for 40 minutes. Somehow this makes me feel better than waiting for tupperware and my microwave to conspire to poison me.

But I'm also kind of neurotic... Anyway, if you don't find tupperware is your boat try that.

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pschartOP•

Great suggestion. I'm not totally neurotic about the microwave/tupperware but I definitely think frozen foods taste better reheated in an oven. Thanks!

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traal•

Better yet, buy yourself a pressure cooker so you aren't wasting money on electricity/gas.

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pschartOP•

Errm... Wouldn't my electric stove waste money on electricity? Maybe I'm missing something. It's been known to happen.

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That's far from frugal.

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Grow your own, than it's very frugal :P

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druid_king9884•

All joking aside, this is a good idea. An indoor garden with other hardy plants, such as tomatoes, will cut your grocery expenses, as well as give you something to tend to while you keep your mind off of your unfortunate situation.

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theJoosty1•

It comes out to $100 a month for me to smoke good stuff daily.

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Gravedigger3•

You either smoke very little per day, or you get an amazing price on the good stuff.

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theJoosty1•

Well, I spent $50 for an 1/8 about 15 days ago. I use a pipe and never keep it cherried. What's normal for you?

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jkaska•

Depends where you live....

and also

what betterth said

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risk/reward ratio not so good imho.

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No, the worst risk would be facing criminal charges. =\

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pschartOP•

It is not a bad suggestion and in the past I may have taken it, but I'm afraid it's not a route I feel comfortable taking at this point in my life. Still, thanks for thinking of me and offering some advice.

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pschartOP•

Well... It can be summed up in one word: Kids. VERY young kids. In fact, as I learned (though not from my wife), this "man," this "friend" of mine, made his move on her less than a month after our youngest was born! While she was obviously emotionally and hormonally susceptible, before she had even healed from giving birth, before we'd even been able to have sex. No one bothered to tell me any of this until 6 months down the road after she had already gotten over me and our marriage yet I was still very much committed despite what, in hindsight, were obvious attempts to "drive me out" in hopes that I would leave her and they could pretend to have only been friends until I left. That's my interpretation, anyway.

It's really a huge, complicated and fucked up story that I've only scratched the surface of, but suffice it to say I don't want to do anything that may jeopardize my ability to see or have my children. If you want to know more, PM me - I'm not sure how much of this story I want out on the internets (this is not a throwaway).

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zarakosta•

Shit man. I'm sorry, but you'll be better. YOU WILL BE BETTER! And you're doing the right thing- weed is not good at this point, eating healthy though is. :)

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thewiseal•

Upvoted and totally agree, although here's two cents from a different personality type - ended up going from a small amount to a pretty regular large amount, and that brought on a set problems of its own. So, I mean, if you don't have a necessarily addictive personality, go for it, otherwise, be careful?

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pschartOP•

I'd buy that for a dollar!

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nominus•

Spectacular. I'll make a post over there and report back. A nice group effort to get some recipes in this mindset would be fantastic.

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technate•

I am taking a break right now because of some family problems but I am working on this exact thing. I plan to start working on it again soon. It will include over 200 recipes and each one under $5 a portion.

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cyanotype•

I would totally contribute to this. And want to read it.

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robkinyon•

I'm totally in for this.

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dioltas•

I saved that post. Going to sleep now, look forward to contributing a few recipes and reading it once it gets going!

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Pwag•

Only if it's not copy left protected and anyone can download it and print it from a pdf.

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gaso•

tl;dr: brown rice and black beans: http://www.reddit.com/r/food/comments/b10rj/can_i_survive_on_a_diet_of_waterbreadbeansrice/c0kfb4g


With the rice, try to get brown rice in the cheapest, largest bag you can find. The brown rice has more nutrition than white rice.

With beans you cannot go wrong. I made some really great split pea soup yesterday from scratch, but you can make a pretty good split pea soup just with a bullion cube, water and a bag of split peas. Black beans are also nearly impossible to screw up. I literally take my spice cabinet and throw stuff in by smell (oh, this smells like it’d taste good). If you don’t have a spice cabinet, just get a thing of bullion (I suggest “Better Than Bullion” as even though its more expensive than regular bullion cubes, per-use it is actually quite a bit cheaper and its flippin delicious). You may want to pick up a thing of Goya Sazon depending on how you feel about MSG…as it will also make your taste buds dance. Navy beans make a delicious soup….mmm so many delicious beans…

Split peas are nice because they don’t take any soaking, you just cook them till they’re soft (I like them completely dissolved). My soup yesterday was some curry, turmeric, cumin, better than bullion, Adobo (salt, pepper, spice mix), two tablespoons of extra virgin olive oil, half an onion, half a bulb of garlic, one carrot, and a packet of goya sazon. I literally just chopped the veggies, threw everything in a pot with six cups of water and a whole bag of split peas (rinsed) and let it cook for an hour (bring to boil, then simmer with lid on). If its too thick, add water. Too thin…it’ll thicken as it cooks! Took maybe 10 to minutes to throw everything in a pan, an hour of cooking and presto I had numerous servings of a crazy nutritious and delicious meal, very very cheap.

Split peas have a TON of fiber and protein, as well as a lot of other vitamins. Black beans also are amazingly good for you, and delicious. I love making black bean soup (pretty much the same thing, just with soaking overnight and hotter spices) ladled over some brown rice…wonderful food. Beans and rice will see you through almost anything, last forever if kept cool and dry, are cheap and amazingly versatile (even if I just usually make soup cause I’m lazy)…dunno why folks don’t eat them more often!

Veggies...cabbage, collard greens, anything that is very nutritionally dense and reasonably inexpensive. I like collard greens with potatoes. Take them, boil them for five minutes, drain, fry in a pan with some garlic and olive oil for another five minutes, and then eat with some sliced potatoes that were also fried in garlic and olive oil. To eat healthy, go heavy on the greens and light on the potatoes and oil.

Peanut butter toast is also really good if you can find cheap whole wheat bread, which is usually next to impossible. I’m partial to Weis “Whole Grains” series. White bread is cheap but is also worthless, you might as well eat sugar and a multivitamin…

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I just read a thread on Chowhound about cooking with dried beans (can't paste the link from stupid phone), and folks say you don't have to soak them. It saves maybe 15 minutes of cooking time, but other supposed benefits (like making them easier to digest) don't materialize, at least according to a test kitchen. Everyone claiming to post from bean-centric places like Mexico says nobody soaks beans. I tried it with some dry pinto beans in a crock pot, and they cooked up perfectly without soaking.

So, sort 'em, wash 'em, and throw 'em in a pot with some onion, garlic, and maybe some spices. Some say you can't salt until the end (I didn't); others say it's no problem.

Split yellow peas are great with garlic, ginger, S&P, and turmeric, boiled to mush and served over basmati or brown basmati. Look up "kik alicha" for slightly more complicated versions.

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gaso•

Yea, I've read the "don't salt to the end" too. Also, we usually cook our beans to the point where they're falling apart (even black beans over rice) so perhaps next time I'll forgo the pre-soak too. Thanks for the heads up.

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FigNinja•

I thought soaking was to decrease the phytic acid and make them more nutritious. Lately I've been sprouting beans before cooking.

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Here's the thread I mentioned. Seems like there are some good arguments for soaking, too. I'm going for the no-soak method just to save a step, but I'm also cooking them in the crock pot for a whole workday, so for all I know it balances out.

What does sprouting do? (Yeah, I know, LMGTFY. Interesting, if unsourced, article here. One with numbers here.) I'm asking more about taste. What kinds of beans have you sprouted?

I have a sprout garden that I picked up for 10 cents at a garage sale. It's a set of plastic bowls with ridged interiors and slow-drain holes in the bottoms so that when you let water into each bowl (they stack, so you fill the top one and the water gets to the rest), it wets the seeds and then drains them well. I've been using it to sprout garden seeds, but that's only for one small part of the year. I could put the thing to its intended purpose if it's worth it.

Maybe sprouts could be useful for OP, since they seem pretty nutritious and low-maintenance. Cheap, too, I'd have to think.

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FigNinja•

Sprouting is supposed to increased the enzymes and make the beans to enhance nutrition and ease digestion. One of those enzymes is phytases which helps break down the phytate which is the stuff that chelates minerals out of your system. Even sprouting doesn't remove all of it. Some grains and beans need a soak in acidulated water and fermentation to destroy it all. It helps, though. I've only sprouted black beans and brown rice for cooking, but I've also sprouted mung beans and lentils for eating raw.

Nice sprouter. I just use canning jars with some mesh over the top but 10 cents sure beats that. It's more attractive, too.

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jkaska•

This is very good advice.

I'll often make a huge pot of brown rice with a complete mixture of different beans, add a bit of salt and keep it in the fridge -- it forms the base for my meals for a week -- either cold in salads, or reheated with veggies or a bit of sauce.

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nerpal•

Making your own bread is cheap and easy

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pschartOP•

More great advice. Thanks, gaso. With all these suggestions, I may actually fill up my deep freeze and never cook again! ;)

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NW_passage•

I love quinoa. It's nutty and delicious. A lot of people don't rinse it well enough or don't buy it pre-rinsed. The bitter coating on it is tenacious.

I recommend making a huge batch of quinoa. The first night it's good under stew or what-have-you. The next day toss it with cheese and spinach and spices and bake it. Just a good dose of onion powder, S&P is plenty if you're not comfortable with spicing. Also, if you can bring yourself to splurge a bit a smoked cheese is delicious in this dish.

I also back JB on the sardines. They are fabulous on toast with avocado. Lemon juice is a nice touch, but not necessary. They are also really high in calcium.

Stir fries are cheap and easy. Buy some sesame oil - it's not super cheap but a little goes a very long way. Chop some veggies and chicken or tofu and you can have a tasty hot meal in under 10 minutes, with lots of vitamins. Rice cooks perfectly in the microwave if you need starch.

Keeping with the asian theme, lots of chinese supermarkets sell noodles dirt cheap. Just make sure you grab some veggies too, because an all-carb diet is not good for body or moods.

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GutterMaiden•

I love quinoa. It's nutty and delicious. A lot of people don't rinse it well enough or don't buy it pre-rinsed. The bitter coating on it is tenacious.

I recommend making a huge batch of quinoa. The first night it's good under stew or what-have-you. The next day toss it with cheese and spinach and spices and bake it. Just a good dose of onion powder, S&P is plenty if you're not comfortable with spicing. Also, if you can bring yourself to splurge a bit a smoked cheese is delicious in this dish.

Quinoa keeps? I stopped eating rice when I found out you can't just put it in the fridge and eat it as leftovers because it turns to poison. I might check out quinoa, especially seeing as lately I'm totally down with weird things like wheatberry and lentil salads.

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NW_passage•

rice...turns to poison

???!!!

Source? I've never heard that. I eat leftover rice occasionally, but I've heard many people say they routinely make a big pot and use it all week.

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GutterMaiden•

Bacillus cereus, man. It's a terrorist weapon.

Wikipedia.

Basically if you cook rice, and then store it in the fridge or something it develops a bacteria that produces toxins that can cause food poisoning. Reheating it doesn't get rid of the toxin.

... its not really anything to get worked up over, I'm just weird.

EDIT: Heres a cooler more readable source.

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NW_passage•

Well, I can't imagine how you could cook rice without keeping it above 100 degrees for 20 minutes. Seems like the risk is infinitessimly low.

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packetinspector•

Freeze the cooked rice. Reheat by steaming. No risk of toxic bacteria and the rice doesn't have that weird, been in the fridge aspect.

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bradshawz•

I'm an athlete/grad student/vegan (don't let the last scare you off, just put bacon in everything I describe). What follows is what I eat every day. What's strange is that I've not gotten sick of any of it. Other foods, like squash, baked potatoes or chicken (once upon a time), I got sick of if eaten everyday... not so with these.

Grocery list: cans of tomatoes, lentils, split peas, quinoa, oatmeal, green onions, almond milk, extra firm tofu, bannana, peanut butter, seasonal veggies/fruits as sales come and go. Average about $40 per week.

Pantry: basil, garlic, sugar, salt, pepper, chili powder, olive oil.

My staple is the oatmeal. I eat it raw with almond milk, a banana cut up and dropped in, and sugar. I eat it a lot. It's breakfast and lunch. The percentage of my food consumption that is oatmeal is a lot but it's easy to get a crap ton of good calories for cheap this way. For what it's worth my energy level is fine.

Dinner is a base of the lentils, quinoa, or split peas, or amalgamation thereof. Saute tofu with garlic and salt/pepper after the carbs have been boiling for 15 minutes. Strain the base and dump it back in the stew pot. Dump in the tofu and add a can of tomatoes (diced, strained to get out most, not all, of juice). get all this stuff hot and eat away.

Eat the peanut butter as a snack... I like putting it on carrots.

Advantages to this system: lentils and split peas are cheaper than beans and take a lot longer to cook, better for you than rice or pasta. Quinoa has a complete protein, and gets some non-soy protein in the body.

Fun tip: for a meat sauce substitute put quinoa in pureed tomatos--thickens it up and the tomatoes overpower the flavor of the quinoa, something that's admittedly an acquired taste.

edit: if you can think ahead this well, steel cut oatmeal cooked in a slow cooker overnight is a good way to wake up to the smell of awesome.

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[deleted]•

Wow, I don't know how you consume that much oatmeal.

I'm no vegan or veggie, but I eat pretty healthy. I usually eat a bowl of oats every morning with some fruit or berries on top. Sprinkle some cinnamon. And then I still have to usually choke down the last few bites.

I could never imagine eating oatmeal for lunch. I'm usually so hungry by lunchtime that I need at least a sammich. I'm a hungry dude, and would pass out if I just had some oats!

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bradshawz•

We should be clear that I eat about 1.5 cups at a time... so 450 calories oats plus 100 banana plus, say, 200 for the milk and sugar. So 750 whereas a sandwich, as it wouldn't have meat, would be more like 500. Maybe with chips we'd get up to 750 but then I'd be eating chips.

Historically I've been a cereal junkie, oatmeal fills that roll now that I know how horrible apple jacks and waffle crisps are.

edit: other issue with sandwhich is that I eat some tofu everyday and don't want to overdo it on soy protein.

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pschartOP•

This sounds like something I could try. It's been a while since I ate oatmeal but I used to like it. I'm all for lentils and split peas and I've even had quinoa (and, I can pronounce it correctly!) a few times and don't remember hating it.

I'm going to print this whole damned thread and turn the suggestions into note cards. Thanks so much for the advice, bradshawz.

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jkaska•

I'm not sure if you're on facebook, but if you are, my mate runs a group called "The Lazy Cook"

He is a chef, and he gives weekly mailers with 3-4 recipes and some general cooking tips. Its all about keeping it simple, doable, affordable, and yum.

Here is the page:

http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=114479375245198&ref=ts

[Reddit, don't mind my blatant advertising for my friend... I do genuinely believe its a good initiative he's got going and relevant to this thread]

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laurz•

whoa this is so perfect for me. i am a vegetarian (looking to go vegan) and im moving into my own apartment since i just graduated from college. i think i will begin following your diet.

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bradshawz•

Just keep in mind that this diet isn't veganism--though I think its functionally close enough and definitely a good way to transition into a vegan diet if you feel like you should do more.

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cyanotype•

So sorry to hear about what you're going through. Really, really sorry, pschart.

I've dealt with similar depresssion/no appetite/no energy, and here's what I ate: whole-grain bread; peanut butter; hummus (homemade); bananas; apples; yogurt; oatmeal. I kind of just ate that over and over for a long time. Bread alone was something I could always stomach, and there were days I ate it, with a little spread on top, three or four "meals" a day.

A healthier approach, if you can muster the energy:

  • Make your own whole-grain bread. It is a mood-lifter, I am certain. "Look, I made bread! It smells good." This is the easiest recipe there is.
  • Cook brown rice, maybe two dry cups at a time, in a big pot.
  • Make some bean soup/stew. You said you have a crock pot, so use it, friend :) This Cuban-style black bean recipe sounds good with rice.
  • Eat leafy greens like spinach, kale, and collards--you can throw chopped handfuls into a pot of beans. Eat broccoli, raw for ease. Eat avocados--try them just sliced on bread.

I hope you keep moving through this time as well as you can.

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GutterMaiden•

Yeah! cynotype knows what I'm talking about!

This is pretty much exactly what I lived off when I was going through rough times, only with more grapes and carrots and celery.

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pschartOP•

Thanks, cyanotype. I really appreciate the sympathy, the encouragement and the suggestions. That black bean recipe really does look good.

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mattf•

Be a little careful here. What you're asking for is a little like "Good, fast, cheap, pick all three". To eat well (and I don't mean $, I mean quality, health, etc.) generally requires either more money or more time. You might enjoy the latter; taking good care of yourself feels good, and when you soon make new friends, new lovers, being able to take care of them with food will be a blessing.

Try to think of eating, selecting, and preparing food as a part of a rich meaningful life, rather than as overhead to your "productivity". To put another way, have friends over for dinner AS your evening, rather than meeting for a quick bite before the movie. Cook together, laugh together, drink together... and let that be your night. It can be wonderful. You can even do this alone with your favorite record, a beer, and some nice food. But it's even nicer to use food to connect with people. Scientists know that we are happier when we are connected to things, even more than when we "accomplish" things.

Some more practical tips:

  • buy in-season. Even heirloom tomatoes in-season are cheap. Eat what's around, not what you see on TV or in the recipe books.
  • plan your meals around fresh vegetables; add starch on the side, like rice, grits, pasta, toast... but ON THE SIDE, in smaller quantities. Also, use meat as a flavoring, like chopped bacon or a single piece of sausage. Meat is expensive, but luckily some of the tastiest are the cheapest
  • cut out soda. Right out. It's super expensive, adds zero nutrition, and probably will make you sick. Ditto for candy, etc
  • break the rules once in a while, as a treat... celebrate eating, even if your celebration is gummy bears and dr. pepper

In college, I would make a big batch of pinto/black beans on Sunday, with onion, garlic, spices. Then, I'd have a pack of burrito-size tortillas, some salsa, and some cheese in the fridge. I could usually get 4-5 last-minute meals out of this.

(I've written variations on this theme several times on Reddit; look 'em up if you like. There is especially some stuff about learning to shop/cook.)

Sorry about your story; that sounds the worst. If this is at all helpful, write me and we can talk more.

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pschartOP•

Yeah, I see your point. Perhaps that's why I was a bit reluctant about whether this was the right place for this post. I guess I'm slightly less concerned about the "cheap" than is typical for this subreddit (which I have lurked in for quite a while and found plenty of good advice/suggestions). Good (as in flavor) is not much of a concern since right now I really find it difficult to enjoy anything, but Good (as in "for you") is. I don't want to become ill or malnourished or overweight. Fast is only a concern in that right now it's so hard for me to find the strength to put any effort into anything much less something I don't really feel like doing anyway.

The rest of your advice is all very good and I will take it to heart. I'd definitely like to talk more, I will PM you when I get through this thread as well as look up some of your other posts you mentioned.

Thanks for caring, mattf. I've lost a lot lately, family, friends... And I'm amazed at the amount of genuine concern this little post has generated. It has really helped me more than I'd ever be able to repay any of you with orangereds. Sincerely, thanks.

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ibsulon•

As someone who has dealt with depression in the past, I'm seeing "I go to the grocery store, look at things and start crying then I just leave."

One of the hallmarks of depression is the inability to make a decision. Use times when you feel better to make decisions that you can carry out when you're feeling worse. Your brain power is what you have to conserve.

In this case, it's finding a few recipes you can eat and freeze. Make out the list, then go to the grocery store and go as quickly as possible, because you've already made the decisions.

I suggest soups and stews with bread or rice.

AND GET A NEW JOB! But you already knew that. :)

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pschartOP•

Yeah, indecision is a big factor and the feeling of loneliness that accompanies eating alone for the first time in over 7 years. I went to the grocery store last night and took several of the suggestions from this thread with me. Bought lots of veggies, sardines, soups and the like. Today I hope to make it to the international food store for some basmati or other "good" rice. Oh, and beans, lots of beans.

As for the job... I'm kind of stuck. For one thing, I LOVE my job (aside from the fact that my now former boss but still coworker stole my wife) I love the people I work with (with one very notable exception) and I'm in an industry (software engineering) that has VERY few jobs in my area and I've already worked at (and hated) one of the others and I can't leave the area. I feel so stuck and without options.

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ed2417•

I would suggest you consider eating anti-depressants. Many of them are generics and can be had dirt cheap. It could help get you through the hard parts.

Good luck!

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pschartOP•

Thanks for the well-wishes. I finally got into a psychiatrist just a week ago (hooray for our healthcare system - at least I didn't have to wait till July as it originally seemed I would) and I'm taking sertraline (zoloft) as well as trazodone (another anti-depressant that has a "side effect" of helping you sleep). As they say, it takes a while for it to get into your system but I'm already feeling a little bit better (most of the time). Unfortunately, my soon-to-be-ex-wife has a Spidey Sense that tingles when I'm feeling better and she wastes no time in coming over to read me some irrational riot act which sends my mood right down the shitter - like she did this morning...

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throwoutgirl•

Do you two have lawyers? Is there any chance you can request communication only happen through lawyers? The more you can do to remove negativity in your life, the better.

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lennort•

Cans of soup. Warm it up, done. They have quite a few healthy varieties out there, just double check sodium.

Apples, carrots, Yogurt, cold sandwiches. No cooking required.

Eggs, for any meal. Scramble them up, throw them in a pan and stir. Very little effort required, plus you can add some ham and cheese and make an omelet.

Microwaved burritos. They are not healthy, but when you're having a really bad day you'll appreciate how easy it is to make.

Pancakes.

Good luck. I've been making food as easily and with a few pans as possible for a while now, and you don't always have to sacrifice quality.

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GutterMaiden•

Microwaved burritos. They are not healthy, but when you're having a really bad day you'll appreciate how easy it is to make.

I made burritos and froze them. They take 40 minutes to heat up in the oven (I don't have a microwave). They're amazing and incredibly filling (sometimes ... too filling) - and I know whats in them! I didn't put cheese inside so I eat them with con queso from the grocery store.

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pschartOP•

I have done just this in the past. Thanks for sparking the memory, I will definitely do this.

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GentleZacharias•

Pancakes, man. Pancake batter is cheap as hell and some brands you don't need to add anything but water. Pancakes for breakfast, lunch, dinner. Freeze 'em for later. Make sandwiches out of them with peanut butter and jelly. Wrap 'em around sausages if you have some, or scrambled eggs. Eat 'em dry. Pancakes pancakes pancakes.

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neoumlaut•

Protip: Pancake "mix" is basically flour with baking soda and salt. Save yourself a ton of money and make it yourself, it will taste 1000x better.

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hello_good_sir•

you need to start using your oven. Buy a ham or a complete chicken, give it a good rinse (to make it taste fresher) and cook it in a big pan with some water (enough water so that it doesn't dry up by the time you are done cooking. The water keeps the pan from getting ruined and, in the case of the chicken, turns into amazing broth. You will be paying about a dollar per pound (or less depending on where you live and the deals that you can get). Deli meat (even the cheapest prepackaged kind) costs at least 4x as much. Once you have a big pile of roasted meat you can make it into whatever. Slice it for sandwiches, make a soup, make an omlet, pizza, whatever.

The key to frugal living is buying and cooking in bulk.

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GutterMaiden•

The ham'll be better if you cover it in sugar and shit and follow an actual recipe.

Also, get a meat thermometer. I don't have one and I spend way too much time starting sadly into my oven at various hunks of meat.

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hello_good_sir•

upvoted for meat thermometer, I would have trouble living without one. Without one you are either going to undercook your food (not safe) or overcook it (not tasty).

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oopsiedaisy•

Avoid white rice, white sugar, white bread, and white alcohol. Corn tortillas keep well if they are the kind sold as a dense stack. If you have a toaster then you can heat them up and spread some refried beans on them( canned or homemade) one stack of tortillas and two cans of beans has lasted me about a week ( of physical labor). Cheese and meat. NPR had a thing about processed meats this morning, how bad it is. Go for the giant chunk of beef. Cut it into portions and wrap it. No Saran wrap? Use walmart bags. The key is reducing exposure to air. It's true about the rice-poison thing but if you cool the rice quickly after cooking it keeps long enough. Hooray for crockpots! What broth to use??? Just put one of the aforementioned beefchunks in there with some random vegetables. You don't need no stinkin' broth! Just add water. And salt. And whatever else. Fancy salt is good. Table salt- meh. Canned fish and crackers makes a good snack after work. Hummus can be made in a blender in huge batches and you can do the zohan diet- put it on everything.

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[deleted]•

wtf is white alcohol?

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pschartOP•

I believe that refers to any clear alcohol (looks like water). i.e.: vodka, gin, etc... I could be wrong, though.

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pschartOP•

One good thing my wife did for me was get me off white rice, bread and sugar, so that's easy. I've also given up alcohol completely for the time being at least, also easy. I grew up in New Mexico so I'm all about beans and corn tortillas.

The "zohan diet" reference actually put a smile on my face! Thanks!

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jkaska•

Lentils. Lentils are brilliant -- you can use them in any recipe that calls for mince meat (spaghetti bolognaise, meatloaf, cottage pie, sloppy joes etc), but they're way way cheaper and much kinder on the heart and digestive system!

Loads of fresh veg and fruit of a great variety of colours and textures is good for your health -- including mental health.

I also agree with finding some food blogs that you enjoy and following them -- they can bring great inspiration and get you excited about a meal, even when its a meal for one, or get you motivated to host a dinner party!!!

Some of my favourites are:

http://www.theppk.com/

This one is also quite yummy: http://www.veganmenu.blogspot.com/

For the more Gourmet cooks amongst us, two great ones are: http://www.veganculinaryexperience.com/ http://gtagged.gliving.com/, specifically: http://gliving.com/category/greenchefs/

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happysteve•

Super easy breakfast sandwich: toast 1 or 2 slices of bread. Meanwhile, crack 1 egg into a coffee mug and scramble with fork. Microwave that for 45 seconds. Toast should be done, butter them. Egg should be done, scoop out of mug onto 1 toast. Add whatever you like... cheese, slice of ham, salt, pepper, Tabasco sauce, etc... Top with 2nd toast. Enjoy.

Best of luck to ya.

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pschartOP•

That does sound easy and good. Never thought about nuking an egg in a mug to get that little "patty" thing. Great idea.

Thanks.

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tanglisha•

I love raw veggies, especially when I don't feel like cooking. Try to always keep some on hand that you can eat raw. Lettuce, spinach, bell peppers, broccoli, carrots, celery, wander around the produce section and grab whatever looks good.

Get some 2-4 servings portions of meat and cook it. A package of whatever chicken parts you like, beef, or pork are good. Cook, cut up, eat a portion and eat the rest at later meals. Combine with the veggies, cooked or raw, and have a nice meal.

I like steel cut oats. You have a couple of options here: cook a big batch once a week and portion out, or use the overnight method. You said you don't like the microwave, so the overnight method is probably better. Bring a serving to boil the night before, then stick in the fridge until breakfast. Reheat on the stove and add stuff you like to it, fruit, spices, milk, whatever.

If you have a rice cooker with a porridge setting, there are whole recipe books dedicated to making thrifty meals - they are often contributed to by college students living in dorms on a limited budget.

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throwoutgirl•

I've gone through depression myself. I remember being in a place where cooking for myself seemed like a huge waste of time. Please don't give up. You're worth fighting for. Here are some of the things I started doing once I started getting my energy up - when I was still fighting the urge to just buy another TV dinner and be done with it - or, at the worst point and just before I went on medication, when I would simply pop a couple of bags of microwave popcorn, grab three cans of soda, and climb into bed after work.

God, that's a horrible flashback. Anyway.

Fish. Whether this is 'inexpensive' or not is of course going to depend largely on where you live. I'm fortunate enough to live right by the ocean, so we have a lot of variety here, and it's pretty inexpensive. Fish cooks very quickly, and can be cooked in a ridiculously wide variety of ways. One of my favorites was to buy a couple of salmon fillets, rub them with oil, then add salt, pepper, parsley, and a drizzle of honey. 9-12 minutes in the oven at 350 and I was eating one of the most delicious things I've ever put in my mouth. With the fish, I'd generally throw some rice on - you can go for brown rice, but I gotta admit I'm picky - converted rice is my favorite. I don't know if all brands are like this, or if I was lucky, but I just happened to pick up a brand that doesn't even require you to measure out the water. Fill it up to about two inches above the rice, cook for 15 minutes, and you have moisty, fluffy rice. Amazing. Plus of course, it's cheap, and can be mixed with a LOT of different things for different effects. If I was tired I'd pull out some frozen veggies and microwave those for my 'greens', if I had any energy I'd pull out some fresh vegetables and steam them with baby potatoes instead of the rice. For fruits and veggies, if you have any upick type farms around, I'd HIGHLY suggest trying one out. Not only can they be a lot cheaper, but if you pick a nice day, you can get the side benefit of the fresh air and sunshine, which can really be a big help with depression.

I also recently read that pork loin is actually a very healthy choice - I haven't had a chance to try it out yet but I spotted it at our local Ridiculously Oversized Walmart for $10 for 2 .. uh.. loins? And I've spotted a lot of preparation methods online. Really, really need to get around to trying some...

I wish I could suggest more, but the only other thing I'd like to say is, please find a support group, either online or IRL. I stumbled across a website that supported depression by accident, signed up to talk about something that was bothering me at a specific time in my life, and with their help discovered I'd been living with depression for - well, pretty much my entire life without ever knowing it. Support is vitally important, and with this kind of thing, you really, really need people who know what you are going through. Good luck!

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pschartOP•

Sorry to hear you've been in a similar (depressed) boat but I'm glad that it seems you're doing better now. Gives me hope. At this point, if I could buy and eat a TV dinner or a bag of popcorn and soda it would be an improvement.

The rest of your post is all fantastic advice. I like fish and rice and pork loin.

I don't really have a support group, per se, but I am in therapy as well as seeing a psychiatrist every few weeks. I've been suffering from depression for 20+ years and my psychiatrist actually diagnosed me with PTSD (not to get to personal, but - what the hell, this is already pretty personal: I was molested as a very young child). She (the psychiatrist) used to work for the VA until very recently and she said she's seen combat soldiers that didn't have it bad as I do - presumably because I've been dealing with it (or not, rather) for so many years without any help or even knowing. So I understand the feeling of "Holy shit! This has been going on my whole life!"

Thanks for your advice and kind words. They may not seem like much to you, but they mean a lot to me.

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throwoutgirl•

Thank you. I'm not terribly good at dealing with other people's serious problems (having ignored mine for 30 years, imagine that!), but I always try and say something when I feel the connection because it was people saying something to me that got me out of where I was.

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ZombieDracula•

I've been in the same boat.

What I did was started going to wal-mart. I don't know if you have a nice one near you but if you do, go there every Sunday and buy one loaf of Orowheat bread, one package of cheese (whatever you like under 3$), one large package of deli meat (there's some that are under 4$ and give you almost 30 slices), get 2 79 cent gallons of water, 2 salads of your choice, and a couple avacados.

This comes out to less than 30$ a week and you have go to sandwiches for whenever you're hungry or need to eat. Just use the lettuce from the salad packages to make the sandwhich more healthy and when you need more than that, add the avacado. You can get condiments for free at any fast food establishment. Making sandwiches is not only really easy, but eventually becomes kinda fun.

For your second trip, go to Trader Joe's (if you have one where you live) and get 3 wraps of your choosing (each wrap is about 3.99). Then get one or two frozen dinners. The frozen dinners they have are delicious, cheap, healthy and very easy to make. This will come out to 20$.

Now you have a weeks worth of go to food that's quick and easy, or already prepared for under 50$ a week. If you want to make excuses for not having enough effort to make a sandwich, then eat a wrap. If you don't want a sandwich but you have effort then make a frozen dinner.

I have done this for about 2+ years and my grocery bill is always 200$ a month. Most people spend 200$ in one trip! As a bachelor it is key for you to eat consistently and easily so you can focus on everything else and get your life back together.

Just remember that there's a bunch of people going through the same thing and if they can do it, so can you.

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GutterMaiden•

You can get condiments for free at any fast food establishment.

In my experience, this is no longer true.

... and speaking as a mostly depressed person who sometimes has no appetite, I'd rather not eat then go fill my pockets with condiments. Just buy a bottle of mustard, it costs like $3 and will last you a long time.

$50 a week is a lot to spend on groceries - my family of five spends maybe $200 a week. Cut out the processed crap and buy some fruit or a bag of rice or celery and carrots or something. Usually when I have no desire to eat, processed foods make make me feel worse - i just eat a whole bunch of peanut butter sandwiches and keep cut up celery and scrubbed carrots in a bowl of water in my fridge.

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ZombieDracula•

This guy isn't in a family of five, he's barely got enough in him to make himself eat, I've given him the plan I used to get out of the rut I was in not being able to eat. When he/I have recovered, your advice is very sound, thank you.

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GutterMaiden•

Yeah, I live alone, and am in a similar boat that he is, and I get mad at myself if I spend over $30 on a trip to the grocery store. He said simple, frugal and healthy. I'm not saying YOU should change your ways, I just ... don't think thats what he's looking for?

Whenever I talk to my doctor about depression, she asks me what I'm eating. And I say I have no money, and tell her I'm eating processed foods. She says a peanut butter sandwich is always, always better than a frozen dinner. I spend a month where I didn't want to eat anything and I was depressed, but I stuck to what she said. Peanut butter sandwiches were good for when I had energy to make something, celery and carrots were good to have in my face when I was staring in the fridge looking for something that's less work than sandwiches.

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ZombieDracula•

Well perhaps I'm wrong. I guess I just figured since it's been working for me it would work for him. Cutting out the trader joes trip and adding rice and celery to my wal-mart list makes about 35$ a week on groceries and is a pretty solid plan.

I honestly just took your advice and did this about a half hour ago, personally feeling great right now :)

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pschartOP•

Waitaminute! Are you a family of five or do you live alone? I confoozed!

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pschartOP•

This guy isn't in a family of five, he's barely got enough in him to make himself eat...

^This. (Ugh, it pained me to do that. I hate "(quote) this!" posts, but you really hit the nail on the head there, so fuck it.)

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pschartOP•

This, while (as mentioned below) perhaps not as healthy as some of the other suggestions, is probably about my speed right now. We do have the much-maligned Wal-Mart here but I've never even seen a Trader Joes in the "flesh." I'm thinking that sandwich fixings for easy lunches along with some of the other suggestions for dinner is probably the tack I will try to take.

Thanks, ZombieDracula. I think if I keep saying "ZombieDracula" in my head all day I might start feeling better. :P

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ZombieDracula•

It works for me! Nothing is more funny than the implausible...

If you don't have a trader joes, just be on the look out for any health food store. Most health food stores will have some sort of pre-made sandwhich wraps, get some sort of Chicken Ceaser Wrap of some sort to balance out your diet, these stores generally use organic vegetables which will help out lots since you're eating on such a low budget.

Every day gets easier then the last my friend, remember that :)

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