Ben makes a huge mistake...
Posted May 19, 2010, 1:22 PM UTC
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I actually don't think Ben's made a mistake at all; it was just a fail on Flocke's part to offer Ben the Island to gain his cooperation and then reveal his actual intentions of destroying it.
I think we've got the old Ben back. Yes, the one that wanted revenge for Alex's death but also the old conniving and manipulative Ben. It seemed a lot like Ben shot Widmore to prevent him from telling Locke what he needed to know and obviously Ben knows that if he doesn't go along with what Flocke says then he'll get Zoe'd as Flocke will have no need for him.
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Yeah, MiB most likely just forgot he had told Ben that the island would be his. Early onset of Alzheimer's is likely to occur in patients around the age of 2000.
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Or maybe after he saw Desmond was out, he realized he only had one option.
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The fact that in the alternate reality Ben is having more and more good in his life kind of confirms this (as long as we assume alt. Ben is really the opposite of Ben).
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Was anyone else expecting the Arrested Developement reference in that vertical?
"I've made a huge mistake".
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ha thats what i thought when i read the title
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That reference was intended :)
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I think we can see MIB making the huge mistake - he's manipulated people for so long, and got them to do what he wanted for so long, he just assumes Ben will go along with what he wants now - maybe he doesn't even care if Ben does his biddig or not.
He is arrogant and thinks he is indestructable, which he pretty much is...
Basically: Ben is gonna fuck his shit up.
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I think Widmore's revelation and finding that Desmond is still alive is what made MiB decide to destroy the island. All that happened in between promising Ben the island and wanting to destroy it.
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Yeah, but then, as we all know, it's murderin' time as far as Ben is concerned.
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I remember the Season 2 finale, there was this one scene where Sayid and Jack were planning to ambush the "Others"... Sayid was like, "we will have the element of surprise, they'll never see us coming"... and LITERALLY 5 seconds later he was like, "Take these leaves and burn them, they will burn with a black smoke."
Jack: "Why do we need black smoke?"
Sayid: "So that THEY will know WE ARE COMING."
Face palm
WOOPS: Corrected YouTube Link: Video Evidence
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I think he meant surprising Michael. He didn't want Michael to know what was going down.
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The evidence proves nothing...nothing!
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goddammit, sorry, fixed the link.
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I think Ben is going to be really important in the finale. The guy always has a plan. He is going to manipulate the hell outta Smokey.
EDIT: :(
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I think Ben is going to be really important in the finale.
That, I really hope...
The guy always has a plan.
That, he does...
He is going to manipulate the hell outta Smokey.
No, I hope will he KILL the hell outta Smokey.
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I think Ben is going to be really important in the finale. The guy always has a plan. He is going to manipulate the hell outta Smokey.
Oh really? Who is the one that has been manipulating Ben this whole time?
The fact that Man-in-Black is a candidate is just fucking confusing !
Stupid smoke, get off the internets!
SPOILER ALERT! I got off the island and am all in your internets!
can "internets" really be pluralized?
well… obviously.
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Who would Ben want to get revenge on the most? Who does he really blaim for the death of his daughter? I think Ben has alot against the MIB.
I really want this to happen, almost as much as anything else. I've missed bad ass Ben all season.
Word.
Up.
I think Ben is always working for the survival of Ben. He has no other loyalty. It's moment to moment survival. This was consistent with that personality.
What about him not hiding? When he went to be judged, he wasn't doing it for survival. The Alex aspect of his life is beyond his instinctive survival. I was disappointed that he didn't coax an explanation from MIB, although it would have impeded the story. And perhaps Ben knows full well that MIB was manipulating him to get Jacob killed. Wait a second, a thought has just occurred to me.
Ben said that "little did he know" he was taking orders from MIB all the time. Wasn't he getting his orders from Richard? Now I'm confused. But I digress.
If Ben knew what MIB's plan was, why did he want to talk to him?
Bleah, this is all unimportant. Except for the beginning, which is kinda the only relevant part to your comment.
I don't think so. I think what he did was a calculated risk based on what he knew of MIB. His best shot at survival.
Damn it, why did you delete your double post?
Now my joke is L O S T