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One Year F2P Progress (F2P btw)

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Just wanted to share my progress on my 1 year anniversary of playing Summoners War and give some advice that might help other early-game players.

https://i.imgur.com/FJqqfEh.jpg ---Profile pic

https://swarfarm.com/profile/VicDamoan/ ---swarfarm link

There were some trials and tribulations, like when I almost quit after accidentally feeding my 5* Shannon to a 2* Sieq because I didn't know you could lock units.

But for the most part, I've really enjoyed my time playing SW and feel like I've made some pretty good progress in one year for a F2P player (btw).

I've pulled 7 nat 5s--plus one dupe Ethna--with the newest addition being Odin this past weekend.

  1. Ethna

  2. Louise

  3. Woosa

  4. Daphnis

  5. Perna

  6. Psamathe

  7. Odin

I have made 40 six star units, in the following order:

  1. Vero
  2. Bella
  3. Sig
  4. Ethna
  5. Hwa
  6. Shaina
  7. Sabrina
  8. Amir
  9. Talia
  10. Colleen
  11. Sophia
  12. XF
  13. Mav
  14. Darion
  15. Kona
  16. Lapis
  17. Kahli
  18. Verde
  19. Theo
  20. Fran
  21. Woosa
  22. Lushen
  23. Bernard
  24. Lushen2
  25. Bulldozer
  26. Perna
  27. Maruna
  28. Racuni
  29. Olivia
  30. Lisa
  31. Xiao Lin
  32. Jeanne
  33. Psamathe
  34. Daphnis
  35. Khmun
  36. Antares
  37. Delphoi
  38. Copper
  39. Galleon
  40. Triana

I got pretty lucky pulling Shaina early, and then used all my stones on Sabrina and Lushen (lucked out on Sabrina, took me about 7 months to summon my first Lushen though) Obviously twins were a major milestone in my progression as I've leaned on them pretty heavily.

As you might have been able tell I built units in groups or teams. Gb10 units. DB10 units. R5 units. Siege teams. etc. Usually all built in close proximity to one another.

Biggest mistakes I see people make early game:

  1. Going to DB10 and NB10 too early. Finally registering a sub-minute GB10 time doesn't mean it's time to move on to the next dungeon; it means it's time to farm it into the ground. I did not move on to dragons until I was capable of building two 300 speed swift sets. My first DB10 run was 51 seconds. If you're farming DB10 with Megan, Vero, Bella, or Sig, you're doing it wrong. (You should absolutely run DB10 one time for the free challenge rewards though). I haven't even farmed NB10 yet after one year. I only run it when I must defeat the Lich 5x for my daily 15 crystals.

  2. Build units that hinder progression. Don't build anything that you don't plan on putting into your GB10 early game. Twins are pretty much the only exception. That nat 5 you just summoned is amazing but if he's not going in your GB10, he's only slowing you down.

  3. Not farming enough. You shouldn't be doing anything but farming giants pretty much. Go as far as you can get in TOA, use your arena wings, then go back to giants.

  4. Not building towers/flags. Such an incredible boost. I've maxed my all my towers except for HP%, which is at 7, and the elemental attack towers, which are at 5. It's free stats for all of your units, everywhere. Get the devilmon every week but don't you dare touch those scrolls!

  5. Not building the cookie-cutter GB10 team. Sure, your team may work, but there's a reason the cookie-cutter team is called as much. It's low investment and you'll get a lot of use out of all the units. And it works. Also, please do not replace Shannon with Megan. Shannon is 10x better in GB10.

  6. Not understanding how Vero works. I made this mistake as well. When I started having success in GB10 was when I realized that my Vero was too fast. He was taking a turn before the right tower in GB10. I ran a team with no atk bar boosters, made Vero 203 speed (including towers), didn't use vio runes, and I had a 99% team. If I made Vero 240 speed, or even 204 speed, my win rate dropped dramatically. I know that seems antithetical that giving your "best" unit worse runes could drastically improve your team, but that is indeed the case. Make an effort to understand mechanics!

  7. Building good units without the rune quality to support them. Lushen is amazing but shouldn't be 6 starred until you've got at least some GB10 under your belt. He doesn't do much with 40% crit rate. Galleon is good and all but doesn't do a whole lot when he doesn't have skillups and you're running him with Vero, Bella, Darion, and Bernard.

  8. Forcing sets. Please, Please do not put +50 spd vio sets on Vero or Bella because someone says they are best on violent. Use swift.

  9. Don't play inefficiently. Don't farm DB10 if you have an 80% team, or farm rifts when you're not able to finish it. If you're cleaving toa/h, wait until free toa weekend to do it. Don't buy premiums if you don't operate at crystal surplus! And if you operate at a surplus, farm more!

  10. Getting/reading bad or outdated advice. The best advice I've gotten to date was from streamers. Gameyurt was a big help in understanding the early game and basic game concepts, Makeitabud and Mathsplusgames have been extremely helpful in helping me determine the quality of runes and which to keep/sell which was something I really struggled with early (and still do), and Foxysw is of course an arena guru and has helped conceptualize more late-game concepts. Even if I'm not quite at the point where I can take advantage of them yet, I feel that having some kind of direction and knowing what you need to do is one of the biggest challenges to overcome in SW.

On that note, where I'm going from here:

  1. Farming runes and grinds, as always. Doing DB10 now for a few decent Vio sets, but going back to Giants at some point shortly.

  2. Mostly working on PVP teams. I'd like to be able to help my guild as much as I can in GW and Siege (we just hit g3 siege this week, wish me luck...gulp)

  3. I'd like to make a decent arena team to push for g1. I'll build a 3rd (fat) Lushen when I plan to do it.

  4. I want to focus on RTA at some point in year 2, but it's kind of hard with no will runes and limited unit choices, especially when I need viable units like verde on pve builds. I know I can get C2, would like to see if I can go for C3 at some point soon, and maybe by the end of the year, G1. I might have better luck in a 4* special league due to my lack of units.

Anyways I mostly made this post because I wanted to help early game players with their progression. If you have any questions feel free to hit me up! And likewise, if you're mid-game or late-game and want to give me some advice, I'm all ears!

Posted Jul 3, 2019, 5:59 PM UTC · edited

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Gmckfan1985:shazam: Buff Shazam!!!!•

1400 days played and still dont have more than one 300 speed swift set....

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GGCDOP•

to be fair, my sets are on Bernard and Woosa and they have high base speeds--I've actually had pretty poor luck with swift runes.

And I slowed down Woosa for more HP because I don't really need him that fast anyway.

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brianfromaccounting1•

around the same amount of days and i still don't have all my towers maxed... HP and def still at 7..

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Entrei6:fran: Example flair :elucia:•

I gave up on swift runes a while ago. No use for the 25 res swift runes I always get, so might as well do necro where all the sets are semi useable

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TinuvielSharan:rica: My TOA princess <3•

Your progression path is great and absolutely efficient, no doubt about that.

However.. do you have any fun from playing this game?

Advice like "get at least a 300 speed set" or "don't leave GB10 before six months" are probably the best mathematically. But most sane peoples would actually quit the game way before that point if they follow this advice, and that's understandable.

Same goes for the "use every cristals for refill"

That's great mathematically speaking, but peoples who give this advice always forgot one crucial point : farming take energy and cristals.. but also TIME.

Man, I almost never refill and yet I already have a hard time using all my energy/wings from the natural energy generation + the bonus energy you got in your mailbox on hundreds of occasion.

And I'm already playing Summoners War between three and four hours a day, which I found ENORMOUS for a Mobile game. If I don't buy premium packs, my cristals will absolutely never been used.

Btw my GB10 average time is 1m20sec. I know it cannot be considered a very good timer nowaday but it's not like it's taking me time because of 4 mins runs or something, 1m20 isn't horrible.

Your advices are great, but you can't realisticly tell to a New player that "He must spend 8 hours a day in the same dungeon for at least a year before actually start playing the game" and expect he won't uninstall.

It's a great guide for any already invested player wanting to create an alt account, but, to be very honnest, your method is nothing else but a complet fun Killer for actual beginner or more moderate player.

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GGCDOP•

This is a great question!

Farming giants for months on end is absolutely monotonous and can definitely make a dent in one's sanity.

Switch it up if you must.

For me, I derive value from playing efficiently and progressing as quickly as possible. I'm able to do it because I can play summoners war passively. Hit a button every couple minutes and go back to what I was doing. Thankfully I'm able to farm while I work, and I'll usually do r5 or rifts as that's hitting a button every 2 minutes as opposed to every minute.

It may not be the most fun for some people, but I like that I've played the game for a (relatively) short amount of time, haven't spent any money, and can at least compete at the highest levels in some aspects of the game (although not well)! I still consider myself a total beginner yet I've snuck into G3 arena on a Sunday afternoon, and tomorrow will be my first G3 siege experience.

You can play the game however you wish, I am merely trying to show others an efficiency-based progression that worked well for me in my first year of SW.

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textixx•

If you like to play efficient, you should try Factorio. ;)

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xPielroja•

He's giving advice about progression and efficiency, not about having fun. Its pretty obvious that he has more time to farm/generaly play the game than others but it doesnt mean he's wrong. Newer players should definetly read this post, there is no fun wasting your time building Adrian or farming db10 with 70% winrate. I don't get why people are getting mad.

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SirPumba•

I believe one of the big problems for new players are the monster recommendation. They read vio is best for X monster. Which may be true but you can't go on and farm good vio runes.

I didn't go down the traditional route with vero or sig. I still managed to build a reliable GB team but it took me much longer.

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GGCDOP•

Absolutely! The first thing people do when they get the vio runes for fusing Vero is ask chat if they should put them on Vero or Bella--neither! They should have your fast, tanky swift runes.

Put the vero set on Mav. (h/t Gameyurt)

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SirPumba•

That goes for most units. Having swift runes is the best option for nearly every GB starting team. Even ToA is mainly about tankiness and swift runes. First comes safety and then you can go crazy with experimenting different rune sets and teams.

I got Asima (light hell lady) pretty fast in the game. And just like you mentioned she slowed me down. She is an amazing unit but not really fit for GB/DB and necro.

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GGCDOP•

People don't realize is that you can "manipulate" early gb10 for close to 100% success runs.

If you don't use violent runes or units that mess with atk bars (bernard, bella) you can force vero to cleanse defense break every time. Make him 203 speed or just under with towers and gg.

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lFaythx:louise:•

I'm a early-game player and sent you a chat message!

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nysra:lydia: :tiana: :charlotte: R5 is supposed to be singleplayer•

Getting/reading bad or outdated advice. The best advice I've gotten to date was from streamers.

LOL, I'd really like to know where the advice you get otherwise comes from. I admit people like Foxy definitely know their shit when it comes to PvP and you can learn a lot from them, but everytime I see any YT "Guide" on anything that's not RTA/Arena/GW, they are completely lost and stuck in like 2014.

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SchroedengersCat88:hathor::ganymede::velajuel: Main Alt :yeonhong::amelia::woosa:•

yeah streamer advice is not good. You should find other places

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GGCDOP•

I was referring to old youtube videos, guides, and summonerswar.co--the latter of which I find many new players lean on heavily.

I mentioned four streamers that I have learned from. Shout out to twitch.tv/gameyurt for being an amazing resource for early game players.

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nysra:lydia: :tiana: :charlotte: R5 is supposed to be singleplayer•

Yeah, unfortunately sw.co is top of Google results all the time. I've been telling people for years that this site is absolutely atrocious, but for some reason it sticks around

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bumper212121:kro2A:TrashPandaL/D :kro2A:•

I gave very similar advice on the swift sets and giants runs on my progression post not too long ago. Be prepared for people to downvote your post simply because you tell them to stay in Gb10 for months at a time to get 300 speed sets. My advice was to farm gb10 for 5 months straight at an average speed of 1:15 and that by doing so you'd be able to make a 300 speed swift set for Bernard when using hero spd grinds. Because most players don't actually track how much time they're spending in dungeons, how many refreshes etc, they think they've done "more than enough" to get the runes they need but in reality they haven't.

I've done a lot of rune improvements for players that swore they farmed gb10 for months but in assessing their Giants runes could tell immediately that they were either lying or had fully convinced themselves they'd done all that farming when they clearly hadn't.

Best of luck in the future on your account.

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GGCDOP•

Thanks for the post! It sounds like we share a similar goal-oriented focus when it comes to progression!

I have very few units that aren't runed on giants runes. Perna, Theo, Jeanne, and Maruna are the only ones off the top of my head. Mav is still on a beginner vio set that I got for fusing Veromos, and Delphoi is on bad Vio runes but I haven't really used her yet. Almost everyone else is on swift, with a few on despair, most notably Ethna, Psama, and Antares (who is awesome and so much fun to play with btw!)

Good luck to you as well!

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picolino93•

Can you show your beast and dungeons teams ? I think it should help early game players to level up the correct mobs to a fast progress

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GGCDOP•

https://i.imgur.com/LXl1LXx.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/2upmIJb.jpg

My raid team is different now (XF/Darion FL, Colleen/Lisa/XL/Hwa BL). My ice beast team is a little different.

The hardest to get SSS was Wind (got it before I pulled Perna but couldn't do it consistently).

The easiest was Dark (just use two really tanky units up front then twins in the back with a healer. I used XF and Darion before I pulled Perna because I used them in R5 FL).

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picolino93•

https://imgur.com/Q5W0Ei2

https://imgur.com/TXZjQ3R

https://imgur.com/c9OZfrl

this is my perfil.

Your swarfarm will be useful to me to adjust some things. Any tips for the arena? Do you only use double lushen to attack? What defense do you usually use?

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GGCDOP•

Looking good, great progress!

For AO i usually use one of three teams:

Shaina (L), Sabrina, Bernard, Woosa (I use this to hit a lot of defenses without strippers)

Bernard (L), Megan, Lushen, Lushen (I use this to hit really bad defenses with no speed lead and no nemesis healer threats)

Psama, Bernard, Megan, Lushen (ideally this would have a teon instead of Megan and a fat lushen instead of speed lushen) --I use this to hit a lot of speed teams without triton

Sometimes I'll throw together a team that I know will work against specific units. I use Talia sometimes against stall defenses with Rina and Camilla for instance)

I don't have a good AD yet due to lack of units, but I'd just put something that looks like it could potentially create problems and detract people from hitting in guardian ranks.

I use Psama (L), Jeanne, and Perna, and I'll probably throw Triana in there as well when I finish building her this week. Ideally i'd be able to plug in Triton as a 4th but no such luck! Maybe I'll mess with some people and put Jeanne on swift if I decide to rush for G1.

Test out your defenses using the new AD test feature and GW test feature. If you can beat them easily, other people can too.

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BonusroosterJr:fran: Example flair :elucia:•

Damn you got lucky with those nat 5s. Im jelly

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GGCDOP•

I've gotten extremely lucky with the quality of my nat 5s--Woosa, Ethna, Psama, and Perna are all great, and even Daphnis is good now. Excited to try out Odin when I build him, and eventually I'd like to build Louise as well.

I feel like I'm definitely under average for the quantity of nat 5s summoned though. I farm a lot and go through a ton of scrolls for a f2p player.

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lagneeeew:nephthys: I...stopped complaining about Nephthys? :nephthys:•

I'm 28 months in F2P and have 12. I also do tons of shop refreshes for scrolls (went through 16 yesterday alone). You could do worse

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SchroedengersCat88:hathor::ganymede::velajuel: Main Alt :yeonhong::amelia::woosa:•

1 nat 5 every 2 months is normal for f2p

If you were very lucky you'd have 10 to 14 (but that is very rare)

If you were unlucky then 3 to 4

7 isn't bad

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soulsaver83•

I think pulling 7 nat5 is absolutely good for f2p and I also have to underline, that most players don't just focus on progress alone but fun as well, buying a prem pack here and there, so the 7 are very good from my pov with that attitude.

But also have to say, since I'm not f2p ^^ I do enjoy it more to play with toys and comps, and I am not very lucky with my pulls (always remembering a double dupe blessing when you are at 7 nat5s ...), everything going to G2/3 in Guild from my pov ist too random and a lot of people there spend way too much money, and Arena is also a part where you need luck from pulls (like the Woosa one got there, or a Psama) and the commitment to speed tune them and give them proper high prio runes ^^

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As long as you have fun, go for it, but don't say things people do are mistakes, just because that is your pov. If they have fun and doing progress, that is ok overall. You can get to G level pretty fast, as we can see, but I would not play this way, because it is boring as hell, I would have quit long ago.

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SchroedengersCat88:hathor::ganymede::velajuel: Main Alt :yeonhong::amelia::woosa:•

I actually agree 100% with this. Really, all the fixation on 'GB10 in 2 days; GB10 in 7 days; toA in 11 days

It comes off as people being anal retentive or OCD (I'm OCD by the way)

If you aren't having fun then what's the point. Instead give this sort of dedication to your job - at least there you will make more money/get a promotion/get a better job if you fixate so much on every aspect

Here, all you are getting is some imaginary prize of 'fastest progression in a skinner box'

It's a game. don't turn it into a rat race

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IntervisioN:fermion: +4 Eladriels•

I'm glad you said F2P twice in your title otherwise I wouldn't have got it

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GGCDOP•

(btw)

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TankReady:anavel: Phoenix Trio Completed! :teshar::sigmarus::perna:•

Feeding a 5* shannon doesn't seem to me like a reason worth quitting anyway lol

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GGCDOP•

It did at the time! I started a new account and everything.

It set me back 3-4 days for sure. Of course now it would only set me back a few hours.

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TankReady:anavel: Phoenix Trio Completed! :teshar::sigmarus::perna:•

I sometimes wish someone could take over my acc and massively REDO my runes hahaha. I've played 2 years,2 years break, came back a month ago to a slightly different game (twins, siege, lab) and I'm still adjusting I have good mons, sure as hell need to work a lot on runes. I can do gb under a min (id say 95%) and then out of nothing, they start failing randomly 3 4 times in a row. (right now using lush lush teshar galleon wind barb, i sometimes switch sig and teshar when I see them failing a lot) This saturday I'll lower my lushens speed (I outsped them using spd tuner last month, I'll manage to squeeze more damage in) and hopefully it will make it a bit faster and safer. Still I have several mons at the moment I'd like to work on, and always unsure which to give more focus too.. Aaagh

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GGCDOP•

Maybe try without wind barb? There is some overlap with Galleon with the ATK buff there. I'm not sure he's worth it for the brand and speed buff only. Maybe try sig in his place! Or alternatively, consolidate your best runes onto one out of teshar and sig and give the other the leftovers.

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TankReady:anavel: Phoenix Trio Completed! :teshar::sigmarus::perna:•

I don't know. tried with and without, with both sig and teshar, with sabrina, with megan and bernard and bella and ffs now I'm going with chasun, and still fail randomly... can't wait for saturday lol

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maxdrum77•

There's no way you're F2P that kind of progress in that time span is jsut not possible at a F2P rate. good try though.

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Ezekial82•

Came here to say this... Two 300+ swift sets and 40+ 6 stars in one year of playing without paying any money.... So every 9 days he 6 starred a unit for a year... maxed out all flags.... while farming giants enough to have TWO 300+ speed sets... ok.

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GGCDOP•

It's not very hard! I 6* about one unit every week now, maybe a little more. I farm enough that I have more 3* max rainbows than I could ever use.

I buy all the silver 2 star units from the magic shop every hour and level them up to make 3 star fodder, which is what allows me to make 6 stars relatively quickly. I will never run out of 3* max as long as I'm f2p. I am operating at a major surplus.

I haven't maxed out my guild flags, they're around level 7 or so.

My arena towers are maxed outside of my HP tower (level 7) and my elemental towers (level 5). I have refreshed wings exactly 6 times in one year, and I think 2-3 of those were by accident. I just use my wings pretty religiously, and regularly use 280-290ish per week, which doesn't count rivals, I believe.

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Ezekial82•

I get how to do it all, I’m in a similar stage of the game with around 50 6 stars. The thing I question is the resources available to do all of this inside of a year without buying any extra crystals for refills. I made similar progress but I am a casual spender and needed those xtals

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GGCDOP•

Like I said I try to be as efficient as possible with my crystals.

I spent the majority of the year farming crystals in siege and I do all of toa and most of toah during free toa hours every month.

I don't buy premium packs.

I've run out of crystals one time, which coincided with a week-long vacation that allowed me to stock back up.

F2P crystals should be enough to farm extensively if you don't buy premiums.

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Fakeporp•

I can do 3 6* in 3 days. Its all about how you approach it. Farming gb10 will net you tons of Unknown scrolls, You get 3*, and 2* rainbow. Buy the 2* from the shop, and use 1* food for 2*, to save energy (1* not worth the energy, waste of time, and energy). max 3 3* (4 times), and 4* them. max 3 4* and 5* them. repeat the same, until you can get 15 5*. Doing this will reduce your stress, since you are seeing results. by the time you are done, you have 3 6* monsters ready. put them on dimensional rift, and max them easy (not really, but you can get them to 35 by doing that).

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[deleted]•

Now try doing that every 9 days as F2P. You will quickly run out of energy

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GGCDOP•

I suppose I'm not completely F2P--I have spent $4.99 so I can retrieve my account more easily in case I somehow lose control it.

I'm quite certain it had no impact on my progress though!

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Failbot7000•

How is your perna built for elemental raids? I have one but can't seem to be able to use her in the frontline effectively.

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GGCDOP•

Nope! He doesn't have to be really tanky. If he dies he resurrects, and by the time he dies twice your dps units should be able to finish off the boss. Mine is only +7.5k hp which is admittedly very low.

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jhimmmmm•

To add to this. Always re rune your monster before upgrading to a higher rune standard and selling a lot of your runes. Im guilty of this where my mons are still using the blue runes i gave them when i first rune them even if my standard is way higher than that now..

Anyway i like to ask how do you know what runes to keep and knowing if you should sell them at first glance. I struggle with this a lot that it takes hours to manage my runes before and after frr.

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GGCDOP•

I absolutely still have this problem! Was just thinking about it the other day.

I never use Vero, Sig, Bella, Mav, Baretta, etc...and they're still on the same runes they've had since my first few months playing! I'm selling runes that don't roll optimally and they'd be major upgrades for my unused units! I don't use them, but maybe I could if they had better rune quality, say bad blue on avg to bad purple on avg.

At the very least there are some sieges where I'm really scraping the bottom of the barrel on my 9th and 10th attacks and they could maybe make the difference between a win and a loss.

Going to try to address this during FRR, thanks for the reminder!

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Kailyoubuff :jaara: pls finally•

f2p 7 nat 5s after one year. I played EXTREMELY active and I ended up having one nat 5 after one year, which was old laika :D

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GGCDOP•

I've summoned a TON of scrolls for being f2p, plus I was finishing toa/toah relatively early.

Three of my seven Nat 5s are from TOA/H legendary scrolls (woosa, daphnis, and odin), and one is from stones (Perna).

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Fakeporp•

5s after one year. I played EXTREMELY active and I ended up having one nat 5 after one year, which was old laika :D

3 month 3 nat5, and 1 ld nat5. Ended up banning the account, since I was pissed off. Teshar, Perna, Arial, and Light Beast monk. Now I regret it badly, Since this would have been my main now. (Was going on tough times, and felt frustration, so I made that stupid mistake).

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shinjikolCrit Damage :taranys: •

My account is pretty similar with the exception of arenas cause it's a nightmare to rush in Asia server: https://imgur.com/gallery/TaLmFIQ No 300 swift though cause i do only dragons and necro but i have 44 6*. It feels good when you know how to play efficiently, the only downside is you have to be doing nothing other than SW the whole day, every day.

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GGCDOP•

Awesome progress, keep it up!

It's very interesting that you took a completely different path from me in terms of dungeons. I think as long as you stick to spending the vast majority of your time in one dungeon you are playing efficiently.

If you split your time evenly in the three dungeons early game you're going to be far less likely to be able to make valuable 4-sets.

I'll also add that DB10 is probably the worst dungeon to farm because there's one amazing rune set and the others are niche or bad. In GB10, conversely, swift, despair, and blade are all really good, fatal is niche, and only energy is bad.

I'm trying to get out of Dragons as fast as I can, I just need a few vio sets. If I were to spend money it would be on Vio rune packs and I'd never farm DB10. Bad time/crystal investment. It just happens to be the only place you can get the best runes in the game.

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shinjikolCrit Damage :taranys: •

Yeah, i just need a few more Vio spd runes and 2 Vamp sets then i'm going hardcore on Giants. After that i'm switching again to Necro for Rage and Will to make a KB5 team. Acquiring nat 5s really depend on luck as i have 10 with one being dupe but most of them are pretty niche/outdated with the exception of Amelia.

It's really hard for people to believe that an account can progress well in a short span of time if they haven't experienced it themselves.

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mxm1097•

I have wind twins, light chak, fire boom. Are any of these worth building for GB10? I'm still a pretty new player, I started playing ground up to 50 then stopped playing due to real life stuff. Recently came back, as in like a few days ago. Account is a mess and want to put together a solid GB10 team to get on the grind, as the one I had before was pretty low success. Working on fusing Sig atm as I had all the pieces just missing a few wind essences to finish up the fusion.

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GGCDOP•

Haven't tried her yet but I could see wind chakram being really good in GB10. Don't know about the others, would have to see it.

Sig is a godsend early game, good luck! Get him as close to 100% cr as possible and make sure he's faster than 140 speed with towers.

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StichyLL•

What's your RTA team?

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GGCDOP•

I havent taken it seriously yet, but I usually go with some combination of Woosa, Fran, Ethna, Perna, Daphnis, Antares, Psama, Theo, etc. I'll add Triana into the rotation as well when I rune her up on FRR.

I'd love to use Verde but I have him on PVE runes for now. Same with Shaina.

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Hideonce•

whats your guild/siege war team?

and whats your gb10 team and time?

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GGCDOP•

I have a handful of teams I use in guild/siege.

I like to use woosa with theo and ethna. If I need to outspeed something I'll use woosa with Khmun +1. I like Daphnis a lot now and use him against Fengs and heavy immunity comps, especially woosas.

I use Olivia/Bulldozer/Racuni. I like Fran+Fire Twins or Fran+Water Twins against some comps for some cheap wins.

I posted my GB10 team in this thread, but currently I use lushen lushen sabrina shaina talia. At some point when I get around to it I'll take out Shaina for Galleon or a second Talia.

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Kuroyuurei•

As an early gamer I thank you for this post.

But I have a question. I've already read that 300 spd is a goal to aim at, but why ? Is it to be able to compete in PVP ? Are there any PVE places where it's needed ?

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GGCDOP•

300 speed is not as much a direct goal to aim for because it unlocks some kind of magical powers for you in pvp; the difference between 299 and 300 is kind of nominal. Of course, in fighter ranks 300 speed will outspeed almost everyone given same speed lead. Conq you will outspeed the vast majority. But in guardian it's a crapshoot really. I'm not taking my 33% speed lead+bernard into any 33% speed leads+Tritons in g2, that's for sure. I skip those defenses.

Conversely, 300 speed sets give a general indication of your overall gb10 rune quality. If you can make two 300 speed sets, you've spent some timing farming giants, and should be able to throw together some quality speed lushen sets, you've got a really nice amount of blade runes to play around with, you can make a couple nice despair sets...

Of course you can get really lucky with swift speed rolls and get those 300 sets relatively quickly, but generally it's just used as a barometer of overall gb10 rune quality.

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slurm1337•

Very useful post. I think the most impressive part is C1 RTA after only 1 year. That accomplishment gets significantly harder every season, as weaker players drop out and the hardcore continue to gain strength.

Can you go over your normal picks and some of the strategy behind them?

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GGCDOP•

team comp:

woosa, fran, perna, daphnis, antares, ethna, theo, psama.

Strategy behind them:

they are the only relevant RTA units I have :P

I'll usually go Woosa or Fran first. Sometimes I'll go both against hathor, seara, gany, etc. Against teams without a lot of fire I'll bring Ethna. Antares against Dianas. Psama if I need to outspeed. Theo/Perna for burst potential.

I'm building Triana and Aegir at the moment, they will be thrown in the rotation as well.

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slurm1337•

Can you give an update on your progress in RTA? Who are you using, what stats have you achieved, what rank are you now? Very curious to see your progression.

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GGCDOP:pater:•

Sorry I missed this! I haven't been playing much RTA to be honest. I just don't think the rewards are worth it.

I used 200 wings and finished C1 last season.

This season I'm once again not using very many wings (I think I've used just over 100 total), but I'll be trying to finish C3 with a goal to maybe hit G1 mid-season if possible for the guardian wings. I'm currently at 4% mid-C2 at the moment. I did pull Pater recently but I need to rune him appropriately and figure out how to use him still.

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slurm1337•

No worries, I appreciate the reply. Gz Pater....he is insane.

Your progress is incredible for your time played.

I'm at 1500+ days played but at a similar level in RTA, can't crack G1. We should do some matches if you have an open friend slot.

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