Discalced-diapason•

This is mostly why I go to Michael’s and Joanne’s for all of my crafting needs.

Plus, Christmas decorations being out on the last week of May is rather infuriating. I love Christmas... but when it’s out so early, I end up resenting it by the time it actually comes around.

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It's why I don't craft at all.

Kidding. I don't craft because I have no patience. Or talent. LOL.

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averageeverydayquestOPJessa's missing math book 📚🎒•

Well talent is learned. But I understand the patience lol

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Wickett6029•

Same here. I wish I had a Michael's close by, but at least I have Joanne's and Pat Catan's. I quit shopping at Hobby Lobby long ago, and buy my yarn online.

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SnowyOwl46•

Ohio or western PA??? I am sad Pat Catan's is gone. :(

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Wickett6029•

Ohio (Sandusky) I loved that place!

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lurkermclurkerson19Jill's Secret Tattoo•

David Green is, always has been, and always will be a massive piece of shit. My family has personally known him since before he founded Hobby Lobby. Look into his dealings with antiquities for his "museum of the Bible" in Washington D.C. Tried to dodge tax law, the government, and human decency by looting items from war torn counties in the middle east and declaring them as "decorative" when he brought them into the US. He finally got busted, but was slapped on the wrist. Rumor on the ground is that he was dealing directly with terrorist groups, such as ISIS, to get his precious items. On top of that, the anchor of his collection, some of his Dead Sea scrolls that he promised investors in his museum were legit, were proven to be faked.

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SoonerScotSong of Solomon 4:5•

And Hobby Lobby treats its warehouse employees like $hit. You'd that being a "Christian" company that they would treat people decent. But they aren't much better than a third world sweatshop.

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In my experience, a lot (not all) of the ultra-Christians are so heavenly minded that they're no earthly good. They assume they are "good people" by virtue of being Christian, so they don't have to actually put in the work to be good. I'm oversimplifying here, but one of the differences between (most) Protestant denominations and the Catholic doctrine, is that Protestants believe that you are saved through faith alone; that if you are faithful, then good works will naturally follow. Catholic doctrine says that both faith and good works are necessary for salvation.

So, some is the most staunchly devout people just assume that because they're "godly", then they don't have to actually be good people.

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SoonerScotSong of Solomon 4:5•

No argument from me. I feel like. Most Christians use the excuse of being pre-forgiven as an excuse to treat people like crap.

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Off topic, but your flair should probably be marked NSFW. Nothing gets me hot like baby gazelle tits 😉

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kittenpantzen•

Quite a lot of the Protestant denominations within the United States either follow TULIP (Calvinist, the P sands for preservation of souls, and it's basically another way to say once saved always saved) or OSAS (Baptist and ime a lot of non-denominational churches, stands for once saved always saved). As someone who was raised Catholic before switching to attending a Methodist Church, it was a little bit of culture shock for me when I really started talking to other people about their faith. Methodists don't believe that works are necessarily required for salvation, but that your faith is naturally demonstrated through your works, so if you aren't doing good works then maybe losing your faith. Functionally, it's basically the same thing as good works are a requirement of salvation.

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BabeyonceBaaabe + Beyoncé = CoffeeDrunk in Lust•

I see that shade you threw at the Duggar’s/Jeremy!! I ain’t mad! Jk— but you’re right on with that analysis. Pre-salvation bullshit. I only exist for God’s glory and can’t be bothered with you peasants

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pt3rod4ctyl•

My mom got a job doing store setup for Hobby Lobby back in 2009/2010 or so. They lured people in by promising jobs in the store to anyone involved in setup. Everyone they hired was worked twelve hours a day, seven days a week for two weeks and on the last day everyone was "fired" so they could just bring in employees from other stores. It was some real bullshit.

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MohandasGandhi•

It’s well known at this point he tried laundering stolen antiquities from Iraq and Syria. He can take his white colonizing ass straight to Hell.

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averageeverydayquestOPJessa's missing math book 📚🎒•

That he definitely does

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abbyanonymous•

I actually wrote a paper for my masters management class about company’s reputations being affected by their founders/ceo religion. I used hobby lobby and chick fil-a. My professor commented that she didn’t know and would think twice about these places. Apparently a lot of people used Dicks and Pizza Hut that had more recent scandals

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DebMo_Cu•

I avoid both those places. I will have to look at Dicks and Pizza Hut. They were religion based scandals?

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abbyanonymous•

No i believe they were racism, or perceived racism. I didn’t look into them too much to be honest

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Poutine_My_Mouth•

It bothers me when I walk into a hobby lobby and they’re playing the instrumental version of church music. It gives me flashbacks to the many hours I spent in church as a kid. I prefer Michael’s, anyway.

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Bill "It was Only a Backrub" Gothard

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ABCJMC•

Not the most important part of the article, but does anyone know why Gothard thinks cabbage patch dolls are evil?

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averageeverydayquestOPJessa's missing math book 📚🎒•

Because the dolls lore talks about magic

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noodletune•

There were rumors going around when I was a kid (I grew up fundie-lite and most of my friends were homeschooled) that cabbage patch dolls were demon-possessed. It seems the belief may have originated with Gothard.

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dumbg1rl#AsaTheAngelCellClump🎈•

my mom refers to hobby lobby by knocking twice during s conversation which means she wants to go to the “ sin store”

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DebMo_Cu•

I stopped shopping there after they fought for religious exemptions for their corporation.

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Bill Gothard has never been married

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GladHalf•

This is a month late, but as an ATIA (now IBLP) survivor, I'm bored and looking to find other Gothard-hating like-minded individuals.

Hobby Lobby also denied women birth control coverage on their plan when Obama fixed the system so that women were entitled to birth control on health care. Hobby Lobby's insurance was private, which is how they "got away" with it.

Why this man isn't in a high security prison for human's rights abuses is a testament to the blind eye our stupid government turns to old "christian" men who are "godly," because it's likely they are all sharing the same sex trafficking circles. I don't know if you heard about Josh Harris "coming out" as unChristian, but it's an obvious ploy to put distance between himself and the other child-molesters he's helped put into place.

Follow-up: Josh Harris lives in Canada, where he is safe from the fallout of the damage he caused in the US. He also has a marketing firm and it's obvious his whole "I feel bad about what I did" shit towards women and the LGBTQ community is a ploy to bring his sinking firm up. Shame on him. They're all connected. Vomit.

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