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wave78

Anyone else ever take a small slice and chew it and still get some effects? Or was this just a fluke and a strong little piece.

I microdose dried San Pedro powder. With great success. I got some dried chips recently. Figured what the heck I took 2 pieces that was only 600mg total for both and chewed em for about 15 minutes. All of a sudden it hit pretty strong much stronger than my normal microdose. Almost like all the alkaloids hit at once. Hearing and vision went to another level and well everything felt pretty strong. More stimulant like as well. Then after about 2 or 3 hours it tapered off and left me with an incredible afterglow. The following day was great. Kind of like the normal afterglow following my microdose. Is this normal or anyone else have similar experiences like this chewing small pieces? This must obviously mean some of the alkaloids are sublingual right?

Posted Jul 19, 2019, 2:38 PM UTC · edited

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good-looking•

Doesn't sound like mescaline, mescaline takes an insane amount of time to come one, regardless of sublingual or oral ingestion. It could have been from the hordenine which is also present. IDK though, could be placebo too.

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Old__Scratch•

It takes 30 minutes to start taking effect for me, I had been fasting for over 24 hours though.

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Concretejuk•

Did you feel that a long term (for me) fast made the trip better. Would really like to know your opinion on fasting and tripping because for my next trip (hopefully with mescaline) I was thinking of doing atleast a 21 hour fast as start to feel a lot happier then anyway

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Old__Scratch•

Oh absolutely, It puts you in an amazing mindset. Psychedelic cactus is such an incredible and powerful plant medicine, the more you can show it how serious you take it, the more it will give to you. Also makes purging it 10 times easier, especially if it's out the back end. Within 90 minutes, the cactus matter is out of your system entirely and the body load essentially disappears after that.

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Concretejuk•

Brilliant! Thanks for replying

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wave78OP•

Even my micro doses of Pedro I feel within the first hour. Yes at 3 hours its much stronger and different which I'm sure is the mescaline. But thats not to say I dont feel anything after the first hour. If I'm correct there are many active alkaloids in Pedro and its cousins right? If so some might not take hours.

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monster-baiter•

i find that my diet has almost the biggest influence on how drugs affect me: if im eating mostly fruits and salads for 2 days or so then hallus are hitting much faster and i need a much much smaller dose. if ive eaten anything from an animal in the last couple days the drugs come on in „normal“ time and strength. i think since fruits are so easy and fast to digest the substance absorbs much faster cause youre not all clogged up and full of mucus in there. so maybe that was a factor for you as well

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wave78OP•

Never tried that but I will. I do intermittent fasting though. I usually eat later at night but do eat some protein and veg. Usually some fruit at the end of my meal. Generally I fast most of the day and then eat later on. Once I got it down I notice it gives me a lot of energy during the day. Plus I'm in the best shape I have been in since I was in my 20s. I'm 41 now. I've been on a night schedule for years so its easy for me. But I will try to cut out the protein on the nights before I microdose and see how it is. Thanks.

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based_Shulgin•

Where did you get the chips from? If it was from a darker side of the internet I wouldnt be surprised if there was something else on them.

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wave78OP•

No I know the source. Just dried chips.

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wowmuchdoggo•

I would say if you wanted to really test it try an extraction and then from there do like .05 worth of pure mescaline and see if it compares

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Tsunami_Penguin•

Did you go through the process of making your own powder? If so, what tek did you use? I've been considering attempting a microdose routine but haven't decided on shrooms or mesc. either or I'd like to go through the process myself so the whole experience is a personal one.

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wave78OP•

I actually did not make it myself. Used capped powder from San Pedro. But since seeing the powerful healing medicine that mescaline and the other alkaloids in these cacti can be I am now growing a bunch. I have a lot of cuttings and seedlings and cannot wait to make my own. I cannot compare the two for microdosing but can say mescaline has been great for anxiety and depression. Even 3 days after my dose I still look at things in a different way and my anxiety and depression is drastically reduced. It really opens a door for you to think about your normal actions, thoughts, and reactions and start changing everything. The only drawback is mescaline seems to aquire a tolerance pretty quick. I don't think shrooms do. People micro them a lot more often. I have tried 2 days a week and the second dose doesnt work nearly as well. Almost leaves me feeling kinda dull if that makes sense. Once per week works great. Honestly the following days after are good for thinking about it all. I still believe even at a micro its good to make it a special day and have plans to get something out of it. The first part is kinda motivating and then the second half is great for thinking. Makes you creative and fills you with appreciation for everything. Its an amazing and powerful medicine.

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Tsunami_Penguin•

So my next two questions, is this something you ordered online? And are you in the states and have any trouble getting it? I currently have some seedlings going and looking to add some larger cuts in the near future.

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bshawwwwwww•

All you have to do is buy the cactus, cut it up into strips, put the strips into a food dehydrator for about 18 hours and it’ll be cactus chips. Remove most of the interior save mostly the skin. Break up the chips throw them into a coffee grinder. I use a capsule maker to make 00 capsules. It’s not hard. Buying cactus is legal. Just look up San Pedro cactus online I bought mine from s website

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wave78OP•

I have a friend who helps me out with it. It is online though. I would suggest either online or buying a cutting and storing it for a few weeks somewhere dark like people recommend to increase the alkaloid content. Then slice it and dry it. Grind to powder. If you find a Bridgessi cutting they are supposed to be stronger. Cuttings aren't cheap but are worth it.

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DrBobMaui•

I appreciate this excellent info, and congrats on your great results!

I just did my first MD with San Pedro and it went amazingly well. I had 1/4 teaspoon of dried powder (my scale just broke but I think this dose is less than 1 gram?). I do most everything, even vitamins sublingually. So I did this with my MD and I started noticing good effects at 30 minutes in. I had a great exercise session right after and ate after that. I started peaking after eating (about 1.5 hours in) and it held nicely for about 8 total hours. So I am thinking that your comment on sublingual alkaloids is likely to be right on ... at least in my short experience! But I have seen the same with sublingualling other "supplements".

Also, I wanted to ask you, how much is your normal microdose? And are you still MDing SP and if so, it is still going great? Any other thoughts you might have would sure be helpful and appreciated by this newbie as well.

All the best too!

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