I recently received a ticket for a red light violation in Georgia. I have out of state plates and just recently found out about the ticket. It's $70 and perhaps points on my license. I know that a lot of people successfully fight these, so what is the best way to respond and get this dropped?
Posted Jun 15, 2010, 2:58 PM UTC
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Thank you. That was a great resource.
Send them a picture of money.
Shouldn't be points on your license, just a fine. That's how it is here at least (ohio).
As far as I know, traffic violations from out of state do not carry points into the state of the driver.
They can - a few years ago my boyfriend had to spend days arguing with a clerk in CO about points that would transfer to his MI license. The scales were completely different, and CO wanted to give him way too many points for the MI scale.
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AFAIK photo tickets do not result in points because they can't prove who was driving. I suppose this varies state to state.
photo tickets do not result in points because they make more money if people don't fight them
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It's Georgia. Get a gun and shoot the motherfucker.
Don't run red lights. Problem solved.
I always slam on my brakes as hard as I can as soon as I see a yellow light in an intersection that has a red light camera hoping to increase the accident statistics for that intersection. Unfortunately I have never been rear-ended or cause anyone to lose their life because of my actions.
Disclaimer: Don't slam on your breaks at a red light camera equipped intersection in the hopes of causing personal or property damage or even the death of a motorist. This suggestion is purely humorous.
You're doing it wrong. I never slam on my brakes, but if the person in front of me slams on his brakes at a red light camera equipped intersection I slam on the gas to rear end and hopefully kill him somehow.
Disclaimer: Don't slam on your gas in the hopes of causing personal or property damage or even the death of a motorist. This suggestion is purely humorous.
if only it were that simple- but then states/cities get a taste of that revenue stream, then shorten the yellow
Learn to google, lazypants.
http://blog.motorists.org/6-cities-that-were-caught-shortening-yellow-light-times-for-profit/
thank you. unfortunately fear sells, so i don't expect us irresponsible red light runners to be very popular.
So you've never gone through a yellow and have it turn red on you? A lot of these seem to be setup so that even if you go through at yellow it will take your picture right after it turns red.
You know you're supposed to stop for yellow lights, right? And before you say "I'm going too fast!", maybe you should think about slowing down...
My point is that it is an unavoidable thing. Anyone who has driven on a daily basis for more than a year has at some time or another looked up while going through an intersection an seen the light turn red.
Your point is invalid, as that does not happen unless you speed. In which case, you deserve two tickets.
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Or just don't get traffic violations, especially those "worse than speeding".
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The fact that on multiple occasions in multiple states you've gotten violations that you proclaim "worse than speeding" would seem to suggest that you are not perhaps, entirely innocent. The fact that it was so easy for you to get off without either successfully arguing your innocence or paying any consequences is just a sad fact of our justice system.
How do people fight these when the court has a picture of you, in your car, running the light?
I'm in Georgia as well - and I have never seen anyone even try to fight one here.
It's my understanding that they aren't constitutional- no due process. I was hoping I could work that loophole, but I don't know the best way to use it without sounding like a teabagger.
Well, you can try it - but if you're in a large city like Atl or Athens - I wouldn't sit in traffic court all day to tell a judge that you wanted to face your accuser. Because you'd then be presented with the photo, possibly a video, and you'd have to prove there was a malfunction or the person behind you was tailgating to the point of potential rear-ending. Also, you wouldn't be wise to argue constitutionality with a judge without an attorney familiar with constitutional law - it's an entire specialty.
most states make traffic enforcement a civil affair- due process is not required, nor is proof beyond a reasonable doubt. the upside is that in many places, if you ignore a civil matter, the worst they can do is send you to collections. here in arizona, speed/red light violations first generate a letter where they ask you to pay voluntarily, without even filing anything with the court. if you ignore that, then they may file it, at which point you're given another chance to respond. ignore that, and they might hire a process server to deliver the ticket. if you can dodge the process server, generally you're in the clear after a period of time. i have not paid 7 speed camera tickets so far. :D
standard disclaimer of course, ianal and i don't know the laws in georgia. but i am wanted in michigan.
Thermite around the base of the poll .....or godzilla
Not speed.
With a 22-caliber rifle from about a block away in the middle of the night. Wait, you mean after it has taken a picture of you? I don't know, probably just pay it and move on.
Disclaimer: Don't shoot red light cameras with a 22-caliber rifle. This suggestion is purely humorous.
I don't know but I'm pretty sure my ticket's in the mail so please let me know if you figure it out.
Same :(
if i remember correctly, in Minnesota they were overturned because they ticket the registered owner of the car and not necessarily the driver of the car.
Are you allowed to question your accuser?
Ask to see the computer software source code.
This is usually (always?) 'secret sauce' and will not be released by the camera manufacturer - case dismissed.
I am NOT a lawyer. ymmv
Are you allowed to question your accuser?
only relevant in criminal cases. most states codify traffic laws as civil.
Ask to see the computer software source code.
ha! they'll laugh you out of court for that one. they have paperwork that "proves" the system is just shy of infallible. think about it, courts don't make money if they don't find you responsible, so it's rather stacked against you. your best bet is to hope they screwed something up & use their own evidence against them- for example, i was flashed doing 66 in a 55- thing is, the 55 zone was temporary, for construction- but where i merged onto the highway, the construction zone was ending, so it was not obvious, normally the limit is 65, so i thought i was close enough. the camera van was a few hundred feet after the end of the on-ramp. there was no speed limit sign between the on-ramp and the camera, but they wouldn't have taken my word for it. each case that went before me, i learned from- every other person got their ticket at the exact same speed trap, but they had all been on the main road, they hadn't just merged like i had. every other case, the camera company had paperwork signed by 4 different employees attesting to the accuracy of the system and also including measurements to signage- so their evidence said there was a speed limit sign 3/10ths of a mile from the van- there was my angle, the on-ramp was less than 1/10th of a mile from the van. sadly i didn't even get to argue my case- as soon as the judge called me, the camera company guy said he wasn't prepared to go forward with my case, and it was dismissed. i can only guess he saw how smug i was getting as the morning wore on and knew i had something in mind that might damage every case that might come after mine, and figured he'd be better off keeping me quiet.
With more than a thousand words.
I think you can get the tickets dismissed from evidence as hearsay. Somebody(a person) would've had to be actively watching it for it to count.
stick with the facts. understand EXACTLY all of the elements of what you are being accused of. Focus on jurisdiction, who is the complaining party?
file a motion to dismiss for failure to state a claim. make sure to serve the complaining party with the motion also.
question EVERYTHING all elements of the entire "trial". make sure to get the judge on the record stating he will give responsive answers to you.
Don't plea anything, stand there and challenge every element of why you are there and answer all questions with questions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8-W8inFkqQ
edit: add youtube link
Man up and pay the ticket and just be grateful you didn't cause an accident.
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