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OneMoreName1

I sincerely think its a bad idea to keep the arcana and persona as exclusive items

Suggestion

Make them arcana priced after ti9 and give the original holders a "genuine" version or something. The persona has slots for future customization, how will that work when only the fraction that got it in the first place can use the new items? Arcanas shouldn't be locked since they are special items and one per hero, think about the new players from next year... (I am talking as someone who has both right now).

Posted Jul 20, 2019, 3:22 PM UTC

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cameron_dev:dota2: :verified:•

Although we don't currently have any plans for selling them later, they are not considered exclusive items in the way items marked as exclusive on the website like the Tiny Prestige or Axe Unleashed are. It's possible they will be available in the future in some form or another, but we aren't really sure yet.

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GunfireEnhanced•

market

i really hope the current ones obtained from BP are marketable and tradable if you decide to sell a future version of it, plus an special label like "battlepass planetfall" to increase its value, since we spent more than a normal arcana to get it!! you would just screw all bp owners who got to that level for the arcana if you sell it like any other arcana ...

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Mercur-Y-ius:earthshaker:•

Please make them available. Thank you

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sassy_username:ursa:•

Whilst you didn't mark them as exclusive (which was noticed by some) it is very sneaky that they were marked as untradeable and unmarketable, which previously has meant the items won't be sold in the future, and marketed as battle pass items and you have only now clarified that the omission of the 'exclusive' tag was deliberate rather than accidental.

As the first BP items/immortals to be potentially resold in the future you should have clarified that from the start rather than sneakily omitting one of the usual tags and saying nothing else until the community had spent $124 million+ on the Battle Pass.

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anilorac23:pudge:•

How about IO arcana from previous ti? If you guys are planning to make TI items tradable which can only be obtained from a certain bp level, then reconsider making all the previous exclusive items tradable to make it fair for everyone. Or... a suggestion I have is to make 1 compendium with throwback theme that let's us acquire previous ti exclusive items at certain levels.

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AutismThrone:invoker:•

io arcana was already advertised as exclusive

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anilorac23:pudge:•

But still invoker and es arcana were advertised as: can only be gained by leveling bp (which makes them ti "exclusive"). This is the only reason why I bought levels. It it will be false advertisement if they will make it tradable, and a lot of people won"t be happy.

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AutismThrone:invoker:•

can only be gained by leveling bp

nope

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OneMoreName1OP:ursa: I won 4 levels from slark's minigame•

Thanks for clarification, I hope the players of the future will have access to these amazing hats too, but you guys can sort this out in which way you see fit

EDIT: I just thought that it is possible to add them as a returning reward for the next battlepasses, this way nobody feels cheated out because they cost just as much, and they retain the air of exclusivity

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samirmaibine:techies:•

what a stupid ideea. like im gonna pay $100+ just to get the same reward i got from last battlepass. what a joke!

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OneMoreName1OP:ursa: I won 4 levels from slark's minigame•

No its not like that, I meant lvl 305 for example would reward you next year persona, and for those who didn't already have it, the invoker persona,

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samirmaibine:techies:•

what if you missclick on wrong pick and unable for refound?

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Deamon-:invoker:•

just asked steam support they confirmed that "The Acolyte of the Lost Arts is a Battle Pass exclusive. The only way to obtain this item is to level your Battle Pass to Level 305."

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OneMoreName1OP:ursa: I won 4 levels from slark's minigame•

Oh damn then

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OneMoreName1OP:ursa: I won 4 levels from slark's minigame•

I dont know if steam support has devs from the dota 2 team, they may just have looked it up and sent your reply

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kakungun:rubick:•

or ... just make the arcana tradeable but not marketable? just like weather effects

You give the option to the owner to trade it if he wants , so he shouldn't complain, but by not making it marketable, it still feels like an exclusive item instead of something you can buy from the store at any moment

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OneMoreName1OP:ursa: I won 4 levels from slark's minigame•

Agreed, as someone who started playing in late 2015,i was happy to hear I could get weather effects, but so angry that the dessert terrain is long gone and I have no way to get it

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spieler_42•

What does it mean when an item is tradable but not marketable?

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kakungun:rubick:•

weather effects are tradeable but not marketable

You can't list them on the community market , but you can trade it directly with other players

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Toshi08•

*can’t

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spieler_42•

What do you mean by trading directly? Sorry for not knowing what you mean (ELI5 please)

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kakungun:rubick:•

hmmmm, https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2178-QGJV-0708

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Lesser_known_:undying:•

Agreed, was wondering how this was going to work.

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a_longtheriverrun:nagasiren:•

yeah i think later on they will release a generic kidvoker so the Battlepass one will stay premium. and both kidvoker's will use "KID" slot items and be able to use future immortals that get released. there is 0 chance they completely lock future players out of this Persona.

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OneMoreName1OP:ursa: I won 4 levels from slark's minigame•

I feel more sorry about the arcana tbh, earthshaker will only get 1, and its time locked, anyone in the future can't do anything to get it no matter how much they like the hero

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a_longtheriverrun:nagasiren:•

Earthshaker Arcana and Invoker Persona are the only Battlepass Rewards that don't explicitly say "THIS ITEM WILL NEVER BE TRADABLE OR PURCHASABLE ON THE MARKETPLACE. UNLOCK IT BEFORE THE INTERNATIONAL ENDS."

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OneMoreName1OP:ursa: I won 4 levels from slark's minigame•

Yet no way to trade and or sell them, maybe they will be added on the steam store later and our versions will be exclusive?

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OneMoreName1OP:ursa: I won 4 levels from slark's minigame•

Do you think you spent 4 times as much? I spent like 60$ and because of double bundle I have a good chance of getting the axe, a regular arcana would be 30 bucks by itself, and I got a terrain, a prestige set, immortal set and a persona, which would count at least 30$ by themselves

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Deamon-:invoker:•

whats the point of them then oh yea no point at all

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OneMoreName1OP:ursa: I won 4 levels from slark's minigame•

What's the point of them now then? If you care so much about their marketability?

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Deamon-:invoker:•

having an limited item? they literally sell it that way

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1dorsof•

One more slot is needed for rubick's cape!!

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11053755:pudge: 𝕴 𝖑𝖎𝖐𝖊 𝖙𝖍𝖊 𝖈𝖔𝖒𝖕𝖆𝖓𝖞.•

Valve probably catering to majority whales now

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OneMoreName1OP:ursa: I won 4 levels from slark's minigame•

Price can be adjusted any time, they could be marketable and it will solve itself

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Deamon-:invoker:•

it wouldnt solve itself because he might have spend 305 levels to literally just get the persona and it being exclusive

if valve would have planned on doing that they would need to tell us that shit BEFORE they sell it

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OneMoreName1OP:ursa: I won 4 levels from slark's minigame•

If you were careful on the BP page, it didnt say exclusive reward on his persona, so they can go back on it, es arcana is here too

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a_longtheriverrun:nagasiren:•

prepare to get fisted. Valve isn't going to release Kidvoker immortals in the future that are only usable by people who were around during TI9.

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a_longtheriverrun:nagasiren:•

"THIS ITEM WILL NEVER BE TRADABLE OR PURCHASABLE ON THE MARKETPLACE. UNLOCK IT BEFORE THE INTERNATIONAL ENDS."

Persona does not say that anywhere on dota2blog

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