I've been trying to find information on "or bust"
As in: "California or bust." I did search outside this sub and within. Does anyone have any information on why we started using those words in that way? Thank you to anyone reading.
Posted Jul 23, 2019, 5:18 AM UTC
IANALinguist, but I do think "California or bust" was the main popularization. "The History of California Vol III" by Theodore H. Hittel from 1898 gives some backstory. He describes the arduous crossings of the Great Plains during the gold rush in 1849:
But people were still willing to risk it all to get there:
Etymonline says "bust" meaning "go bankrupt" is from 1834, 15 years prior to this, so I'm guessing that's the original meaning. I.e. "Reach California or lose everything: we won't give up until it's one or the other"
Now I'm wondering further why they use bust for going bankrupt? Thank you!
In British English, "go bust" is a common synonym for "go bankrupt".
And, come to think of it, "go bust" is exactly the same construction as "go broke". Bust and break are synonyms for each other, and both phrases use the simple past instead of the past participle (arguments on the regularity of "to bust" notwithstanding).
What about "go for broke"?
Wow is this really not used outside the UK? I assumed it was a worldwide thing.
I had no idea until OP asked! But GloWBE says it is!
Etymonline gives "bust" as an alternate pronunciation of "burst" (like arse/ass), which has long had metaphorical meanings of "losing something important".
Possibly due to the bust or burst of the 'South Sea Bubble' ? ( https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/South-Sea-Bubble/ )
in the comment further down u/tyranAmiros notes 'Bust' as an alternative pronunciation of 'Burst'
Edit -spelling
It's commonly used in gambling when you lose everything, and has specific meaning in blackjack, when you or the dealer draws too many cards trying to get to 21, going over and losing. You'd say "the dealer busts" for example.