After 12 interviews in 3 months I finally found employment. I had to lower my standards a bit, but fuck man....I'm going to be collecting a paycheck.
Praise Raptor Jesus!!
To all those unemployed people out there, keep your head up, shit changes if you try hard enough.
Posted Jun 28, 2010, 8:51 PM UTC
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Thanks! I'm just happy to be doing something.
doing something =/= ringing endorsement
I hope your new job allows you access to the internet enabling you to search avidly for a better one.
"does not equal"
on a mac: alt + =
on a windows: unicode 0226, have fun with that.
≠
≠.
≠≠≠.
≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠.
That wasn't very fun.
!((/= =/= <>) ≠ true) = TRUE! whaaaaa?
ââ
I think i'm doing it wrong.
what's unicode 0226?
on any unix running X, ≠ is compose, / =.
For some braindead reason compose is not mapped by default -- I always map it to the win key the same time I map caps lock to esc.
▼▲
Unicode 30 and 31, Up and Down mod.
In C++: !=
≠. ≠≠≠. ≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠≠.
That wasn't very fun.
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copy and paste?
Unicode? I lost my manual...
Waaah, 0226 doesn't work for me. I get â.
And to browse reddit.
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I just did the same thing. Feels fucking awesome!
Been unemployed for a year and a half. Have a "final interview" tomorrow with ATT. This is not my first "final interview" at all... in fact I was offered a job only to find out a few days later due to strange tax laws I was not able to be hired. I could use all the luck here I could get so please anyone who has some to wish, I would not say no.
Just be overly happy it seems thats what people like
good luck homie, ATT is a bitch to get hired on with. two fucking months between application and phone interview motherfuckers...
Yeah, a lot of dropped calls right?
Hiyooooo !
ATT is a union shop, so their hiring process is similar to a Kafka wet dream.
That's funny. The OP's SN is 'Sikes' - Sikes is one of the call center companies that handles customer service for ATT - You are talking about interviewing with ATT, and Sikes' account is only nine days old. Peas Porridge in the pot.
Something smells like beans, and it ain't the porridge. Now, where did I put that foil hat...
I hope this upvote and orangered bring you great luck tomorrow.
OH MY GOD.
I feel obligated to speak against AT&T, for the betterment of your future.
Worst. Employer. Ever.
Basically bought out our NOC, sent all our work to India and Czech Republic, and fired 75% of our staff.
All that remains are the few underpaid, overworked people running the desk, and a HUGE amount of managerial bloat. AT&T basically ruined this place due to it's "financial restructuring" and "global resourcing".
AT&T can choke on a huge cock as far as I'm concerned.
Not to mention the fact that you will seldom ever see a pay increase over the rate you're hired on at. Your opinion will not be valued, and beneficial change happens at the pace of... it doesn't happen.
Congratulations on the job though, I hope it works out better for you than it did for me!
"Who the fuck would want that piece of shit job?! Good luck!"
What a dick, lol.
Ya, who doesn't want a shitty underpaid, overworked job on a sinking ship, with the risk of getting fired at anytime?
...better than no job at all.
I hear this BS from my unemployed friends all the time. You take a shitty job and keep looking. You're worse off stagnating then taking a crappy job to use as springboard into another.
I'm not in the best job right now, but I took it because I need the experience, and I have bills to pay. If you can afford to have this attitude, than I can agree with you, but I can't afford it. I have to have a job at all times whether I love it or I hate it, or my family lives on the streets.
I will actually be working for a company called "mobile communications" that is an authorized AT&T retailer. I've heard plenty of horror stories from people working for AT&T but honestly even if this company is just as bad at least it is less then a minute from home, offers commission plus a base pay and... well it's a job.
Don't worry, I sent someone my resume, then he invited me to his office to talk with him and a couple other guys, bassically just said everything that everybody allready knew, I guess he just wanted to see what kind of person I was. Now today he sent me an email asking for a few links and things to some projects I've worked on, though I already linked to a bunch in my resume and we talked about them some in the interview.
I might still go for the job if I have the chance, but damn I'm getting out as soon as I can. I bet after I tell him I quit it'll take 3 weeks just to verify a few times that I'm quiting or something. and then maybe 2 weeks after that I'll get a call saying "so why haven't you showed up for work in 2 weeks?"
Sometimes you gotta play the game, however inane and retarded it may be. Times is tough.
What's a paycheck?
I think it's when you pay to have something checked, like going to the doctor.
What's my Dalek count?
Your Dalek count is...oh my...
I'm afraid I have some bad news. You may want to sit down for this. You have something called HDV (Human Dalek-deficiency Virus). It's a nasty little bug that goes after the Daleks your body makes naturally. Your immune system can hold it off for a while, but it begins to wear down eventually. Yours has gone unnoticed for so long that it's progressed to fully-fledged AEDS (Acquired Evil-Deficiency Syndrome). You effectively have no Daleks in your body at all. I know this is a lot to take in...without Daleks, there will be nothing to tell your Killer TL (Time Lord) cells what to use their wrath on. Without their wrath...you have about six months to live. After that, evil will go unpunished, and their evil plans to destroy the universe will come to fruition. I'm sorry. I am so sorry. Your reckless unprotected sex and needle sharing has doomed us all.
Now read that in Professor Farnsworth's voice.
Sucks to be you! I'm a millionaire!
Nah, just kidding. I'm not.
This is the most Zoidberg comment I've ever seen.
Aha!
Once again the conservative sandwich-heavy portfolio pays off for the hungry investor!
used to be a billionaire ?
Sad state of affairs when this is news, but it is in fact interesting to hear someone got a job. 2 years out of work here.
What have you been doing with those 2 years? Have you been consistently looking for employment, or feeling unable to change things and procrastinating, totally owning it and watching teenage mutant ninja turtles, looking for entrepreneurial opportunities?
I got this 10,000 piece puzzle I've been working on for a while now, once I finish it though I'm going to get back on the job search.
No, actually I quit my job back when I thought the job would always be there for me to live abroad for about 9 months, then came back to work the summer, the job wasn't there so I started going to school. Still in school, can't find any work any where.
word. What's the job? Congrats!
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Sometimes I wonder why in such times why anyone would try to "find a job" when they need to try to create a job.
I wanted to do that back when I was unemployed but kept drawing a blank on what job I might create.
Find something or some position that doesn't exist, and you think should exist. Do it.
Yes, Praise Raptor Jesus.
I just got laid off today.
I just got laid today.
A BARREL ROLL
DO A
Aw. :/ Sorry.
The universe is now back to equilibrium.
You have been getting interviews? lucky bastard.
Hi, this is your new boss, we do not allow our employees to post on reddit.com, so..... clean out your desk, turn in your name badge, and parking permit...YOUR FIRED
That's fine, he wouldn't want to work for someone that confuses "your" with "you're."
I wouldn't want to work for someone who didn't know reddit was a job requirement.
I wouldn't want to work for someone
Yes, they might also happen to do something like confuse lbs and kgs.
...or feet' and inches"
...or kgs and kegs
YOU'RE
I'm?
(S)he's?
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Hey hey, me too! It's been... 3 or 4 years since I last had a job, been through somewhere around 40 interviews and 200 job applications.
Congrats!
Damn! During the interview, did they ask you why you had such a huge gap?
Congrats, that's the funniest thing I've read all day!
I've been asked that quite a few times, but this time they didn't. Never really had a good answer for it.
Damn are upvotes broken?
NIIICE...HEY EVERYONE, DINNER'S ON SIKES!!
Persistence pays off congrats.
Congrats. What is the new job?
Congratulations!
I'm pretty down because i recently lost a job that i adored but trying to keep positive.
congrats sikes. Nice to hear some good news once in awhile
I'm not so sure "if you try hard enough" even applies anymore. More like if you're lucky enough.
I agree here. My neighbor and his wife both have their PhD in Physics and nobody will touch them.
Couldn't they, you know, touch each other?
LOL! I'll ask, and she is kind of hot too.
A hot female with a PhD in Physics? It's a trap.
If she's hot, she should be using that attention getting machine of hers. Should start learning how to flatter others and sell her agenda.
Well then if he won't touch her, I guess you could. :)
Any woman with a PhD in Physics is hot, I don't care if she's 500lbs of cottage cheese, spread out.
Don't PhD's actually make it MORE difficult to get work??
All the PhDs I work with are worthless even compared to fresh grads. They have no drive to learn new [rapidly changing] technologies or something.
I don't know about the US, but over here in Europe PhD's are generally considered overqualified for most corporate jobs - the only option that's really left after you get a PhD is staying in academics. There's exceptions of course, but they're, well, exceptional...
Generally true in most cases here as well.
I do know that my bro-in-law has a PhD in toxicology and found a consulting role. But now he's back as a researcher at a university.
My sister has her PhD in something (animal sciences maybe?) but has never worked a corporate job. She's an author and runs a non-profit (that she also founded)
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being over-qualified is kinda sucky nowadays
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Has the market ever been hot for people with those specs? Seriously. Other than college physics departments and NASA (and their ilk) where would a PhD in Physics take you? That education cred would probably mark one as overqualified for just about everything!
Probably because they have a very limited field that they are looking in. I know for a fact that places like Taiwan, Korea, etc are willing to hire any foreigner who can speak English as teachers. If they have PhDs in physics they can easily get a teaching job at an university in Asia. They don't even need to speak the language, the students will learn in English.
But then again, if you are looking for work that allows you to live in the kind of neighborhood/house you want to, then yea, it's probably pretty rough for you. But if this is the case, then you don't exactly qualify under the "try hard enough" statement.
Probably because they are either:
a) looking for high-status, high-pay jobs (i.e. sense of entitlement) or...
b) if they are willing to "stoop" to more mundane jobs, they are stupid enough to TELL people they have PhD's (in which case they are probably being eliminated as "overqualified" and "unaffordable").
Plus, if they are like most people who have spent too much time in Academia, they are unlikely to know what actual WORK is, nor are they likely to know how to actually work AT getting a real job. (Much more likely they are in the "grant-seeking" mindset).
As someone who interviews for software jobs, and gets a lot of PhD resumes through his inbox, there's a simple reason for this:
By and large, PhDs cannot write code as well as their similarly-aged counterparts who started working sooner.
Having a PhD in CS limits you to a very small subset of jobs (mostly hardcore math and/or algorithms positions), for the vast sea of other programming jobs out there, you're are likely vastly inferior to a slew of other people who opted for real, practical experience rather than more school.
Of course, this isn't true for all PhDs - I know some who were relentless about getting internships, working on open source projects, etc, during school and they're doing about as well as you'd expect them to.
It all comes down to whether or not you can do the job - and more often than not an undergrad + years of experience beats a PhD + no experience by a really long shot.
Heh, company I work was looking for someone with a background in Physics...not sure if they still are but if they're interested I could check it out. ^.^
EDIT: Company is based out of the DC/Fairfax area.
I find that hard to believe. Academics always think b/c they have a PhD they should get every job they apply for. I am sure there are companies out there who would hire them.
Not as hard to believe as they do.
A lot of companies will not touch well qualified people with any length pole. Usually because they are overeducated for the job, will either not try because they feel better than the job or leave because they are not being challenged. Also I can see many employers looking at people with PhDs as people who didnt want to get jobs, people who wanted to stay in education.
That's true. It's not possible to generalise. There are really good PhD's out there while I've met PhD's who couldn't get anything done.
Actually depending on the work available, it can be harder to find a job if you have a PhD. Everyone says "lower your standards" but if bagging groceries is really the only option with any turnover, only place taking new people, then what? They don't want you if you're "overqualified," because they worry you'll leave quickly, start trouble, or... lord only knows. But "overqualified" can hurt you.
Pretend no one hires you if you're overqualified. Then the question is how high is the demand for physics PhDs?
Thinking about it from the perspective of an employer, why would you want to hire someone who is over-qualified for a job, train them, and pay them when you consider the likelyhood of them leaving over someone who is barely qualified for the job.
More often than not, leaving out the higher education degrees you hold and concentrating on the work experience tends to help a lot. (Just don't tell my bosses please!!!)
Of course sitting on your porch with a monocle blabbing on about how great you are isn't going to land you a job. Who would hire a PHd (cost wise) if you don't need that kind of expertise.
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7 days without food? Uhm, food is almost impossible not to come across, almost every church in existence will hand you like 20 cans just for asking. My friend's parents used to do that after the factory the worked at burned.
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Uhm, you're obviously on the internet, that right there is a good 30-40$, of which could afford PT per month. (Get your net at the library instead). I've done a lot of work with red cross, FeedTheHungary (maybe local only?), and such local humanitarian food outlets. You have a house, internet, computers, trust me, if you want food, you can get it. And plasma? I have money and I donate plasma, its nice for spending. Just take a couple month break occasionally so you don't get crazy arm.
Starbucks is a great place to work! It'll at least get you some food to eat (and if you have a nice manager you can even eat pastries and coffee while working).
Good luck bud.
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And there are valid reasons -- for most "food service jobs" the hours typically suck, the pay normally isn't that great, and the working conditions are nothing to write home about.
Doesn't mean that everything in food service is bad, or that you can't work your way up in it, just that it's not a high-flying career choice.
Work as a cook in a mid range restaurant if you ever find an opening. Sometimes its even worth washing dishes for a while and try to get into the kitchen. Its usually a fun job, can pay well and the weekly cash tips are a nice touch.
Sir, get yourself to your local DSS office and acquire EBT card post-haste.
If you qualify, that is precisely what they're there for.
Tomorrow morning, as early as you can. There were ridiculous lines when I was on EBT right out of college.
Chances are you (like nearly everyone else out there) are doing it (applying for jobs) all wrong.
You are applying for jobs that are "listed" in the classified ads or online, etc. -- which means that you are just one of dozens (or hundreds) of applicants.
And in THAT scenario, it really shouldn't be surprising that you have to apply for dozens and dozens (or hundreds and hundreds) of jobs.
There are far more intelligent ways to go about it. (Yeah, they require "working at it" -- but probably much less work than the way you are going at it now.)
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Blind cold-calling on retail and other "visible" (aka streetfront) businesses is NOT what I'm talking about (half of the rest of the unemployed people out there are doing that also, and since most of those places are NOT looking to hire, you're even LESS likely to get a job that way than you are by using the help wanted ad listings).
Uhm, you can't just will job positions into opening. You can try to talk to owners, smooze, etc, but the reality is right now business owners are pinching pennies, and are not hiring people to potentially save money.
So short of actually knowing somebody and having an in, applying for posted jobs is legitimate and the appropriate thing to do. You can be pro-active, but if you aren't applying for the posted jobs you're shooting yourself in the foot.
Well... you obviously believe in the logic of following the herd.
Have fun with that.
So your entire plan of action is to simply follow the herd... and then whine about it.
Good plan.
My air mattress also has a hole in it and I'm also unemployed and kinda broke.
It really sucks.
12 interviews in 3 months is a lot. I'd call that trying.
Which works out to 4 interviews a month, or one interview a week.
That's not trying... it's failing.
not many companies are hiring. so he'd probably need to mail out at least 20 resumes for every interview. i'd say that's trying.
You are apparently an asshole.
No, I'm a realist.
Whereas you are apparently an idiot with a sense of entitlement.
Have fun with that, see how far it gets you in life.
But he succeeded.
All I know is I've been unemployed twice in my life (in the "pay rent or die" part of my life), an I was never proactive enough to get more than a couple interviews during each of those periods of unemployment. I lucked out almost every time and actually got the jobs I interviewed for, for the most part -- but my point is 12 in 3 months impresses me as a lazy person.
Filling out and turning in applications is one thing, actually getting an interview is another. One a week is a pretty fucking good rate.
Pretty much says it all.
Think shit up, make the shit, go some place and sell the shit. easy.
Exactly. Sending out 15+ resumes a week for my usual field (IT), putting applications in at fast-food, and any other place I can think of
Fast food seems to worry that I'll find another job and quit there instantly. If I could find a non-fast-food job then I would have in the first place!
It's been over a year... and fuckall has happened.
It's all luck... you basically have to have your resume in as soon as a job was posted or it gets lost in the pile of 1000 applicants.
working or trying hard has nothing to do with getting a job. Its a roll of the dice, who you know or who's ass you can kiss best.
That's why you're unemployed.
Go suck a bag of dicks.