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Posted Aug 4, 2019, 8:43 PM UTC
Yes, thank you for being actually intelligent
If you take a step back and look at how the media, politicians, and activists react to mass shootings you will see these people figuratively climbing on dead bodies to promote their message. While I am opposed to their message to begin with, their lack of class pushes me further away from them.
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It's the advertisers that control what is broadcast. You only hear about what is paid to be said. Any message put out there is paid for and nothing broadcast is for the benefit of us. Free speech is not free, it's expensive. This goes all the way down to what stories are broadcast from local police logs. There are seasons for which crimes are reported. So the media is only doing what they are told to do. Media and it's broadcasts are beholden to those who pay their bills....
this is the correct opinion, the media contagion effect gaurantees that media reporting on mass shootings that includes the identity of the shooter will encourage copycat seeking fame
I mean. First amendment.
Blah blah..
Make a non-disclosure agreement or something of the sort mandatory.
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Yep exactly.. Though crime and terrorism with still happen, it would be less. Some people who do mass shootings/terrorism do it because they know the world will know and try to I still fear into people and propaganda. If they knew it would only be reported locally then that would be a deterrent for a lot of them. Shows how the media/government value money/profit over lives..
No one bothers to read these manifestos so many shooters put out. They put their reasoning in plain words for anyone to understand most of the time.
They want their acts to be known, they want to piss off more people and inspire more attacks because they think it will motivate enough people to take action on a larger scale. Everyone who goes along with these goals are complicit. Every reporter that glorified the NZ shooting by reporting on it across the world has blood on their hands, even more blood than the shooter himself has.
I agree that massive reporting on these things probably does more harm than good, and I am in favor of donating the profits, but I have an issue from a practicality standpoint...
Many people have a morbid curiousity. Especially in the age of the internet, you could never stop the spread of info. People who want the info are going to get it no matter what
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There's probably a way to slow it down though.
Im sorry to say that if they didint make money off of it, they wouldnt cover it. Altough they are similiar alot, egat stories make money and storiesbthat need to be heard arent the same thing. No news would cover it and information on events like this woukd travel alot slower for nothing. Also, mak8ng them pay to talk about the shootings is breaking free speech.
I don’t like the authoritarianism of this post, but I hate the media so much that I actually agree. Anything to fuck the media is a-okay in my book.
Yeah the media is corrupt, yeah the media is fucked. But that comes with freedom of press. The news should be allowed to report on whatever they want. People should know what’s going on. But, unfortunately, the media never gives us the full truth and most of the time a very biased view. And politicians can use this to their power
Didn’t expect to agree from the title but that’s a very good point. Good job OP you have successfully changed my mind.
I don’t think it should be broadcast at all. Period.
"ThIs MaSs ShOoTiNg WaS cAuSeD bY ViDeOgAmEs"
This might be a bit extreme- but given the sad, terrible frequency at which these shootings have been happening, I don’t think the media should be allowed to report them PERIOD. Issue an executive order or declare a state of emergency to get the media under control with this shit. It’s ridiculous. Studies have shown that this sort of coverage spawns copycats- but nobody in the media seems to care, because they just keep showing the shooters’ names and faces. It’s disgusting.
Edit: I support first amendment rights as much as the next guy, but come on- make it classified information and illegal to share or something. Do SOMETHING at least
There should be a law that they can't give details beyond body count and location until the investigation has closed, the suspect is identified, and the court date is set. I remember reading up on a sheriff who refused to give details to the media about a shooting for that very reason, and I got nothing but respect for him.
Every thing they report on gives them money, thats just how they make money.
What about natural disasters? Should they not be allowed to report on those?
Yeah, a tornado might be incoming but that's not getting us any cheddar so lets talk about KITTENS!
The problem isn't media reporting it, the problem is that it is occurring. If you want to stop it from occurring, we need to teach these losers how to get a date.
A natural disaster isn't affected by human behavior. A shooting is.
A tornado doesn't care if everyone knows its name or that its killed people. An insane person does.
Mass shooters are glamorized celebrities who will forever be known to the world. People who downplay the medias role in these killings are being purposely misleading.
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Natural disaster isn't affected by human behavior..
You SURE about that?
You know what I meant. If you want to talk about climate change do it in another thread.
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Agreed. I hate how news sources report so much about it knowing that theybare probably making millions
That’s...
Actually a really good point.
I have no idea how this would be implemented, but I hope some lawmakers find a way to.
I think a good example is to look at NZ and the shooting that happened there. State media didn't release the shooter's name until much much later once most of the attention around the issue had died down. This prevents copycat shootings and also allows the media outlets to focus on the victims and what action needs to be taken which is really what should be the focus in the first place.
Idk how well New Zealand's efforts worked, I know one of the manifestos of this weekend cited NZ as an inspiration without ever mentioning that shooters name. I think not releasing the names works when it's purely a sociopath, but most of these ones are done purely for Ideological reasons, not fame.
They bought into a worldview premised with them being attacked, invaded, and genocide'd and this is the logical conclusion to those thought processes. What we need to do is stop the spreading of these conspiracies., if we want t stop these sorts of attacks.
What you need to do is make sure that white people in Western countries don't become minorities, because they have every reason to feel that this will lead directly to their genocide, as it did in South Africa.
Things like this
needs to stop, that's factually incorrect. Farmers with over 40k acres of land a had a percentage of their land taken, and were compensated for it at above market value.
They aren't being genocide'd and the world isn't in the middle of a race war.
The NZ shooter livestreamed the shooting. If anything would radicalized a potential copycat of would be that
It wasn't the NZ media who livestreamed it. It was the attacker who streamed it himself on social media.
I'm aware of that. I just mean that hiding his name probably won't have a large effect is the video is out there