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Countering King Arthur in solo?

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I play casual conquest, for the record.

I played a lot of solo as Cu Chulainn, but ever since King Arthur came out he’s accounted for more than 80% of solo lane picks. To me, he’s absolutely impossible to deal with without ganks/rotations and I’m just about done playing solo lane because of him.

I start glad shield, go to boots, and then Contagion to try and mitigate as much of his glad shield procs as I can, but it’s nowhere near enough to stop his offensive capabilities.

What are the best counter pick gods to deal with King Arthur? What are the recommended build items against him?

Posted Aug 12, 2019, 4:36 PM UTC

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EmBrAcE-DeAtHSome have called me unstable! They simply lack vision.•

Abuse his weak level 1-4 (pre-glad shield), and abuse Cu's strong level 1-4 (enrage).

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MegaDinosirA mighty sword!•

Arthur is a good god but he's very easy to shutdown and once he's behind he'll never recover because his late game is weak.

Engaging Arthur: No silly you don't need to drop to one knee and give him a ring. Here's how to fight him. Knowing that his glad procs are his secret to success you now need to use that against him. He needs to things to make this work.

  1. He needs to hit you
  2. He needs a lot of mana.

Knowing these two things you can formulate a plan of attack.

For starters save your stun for his clear. You know the one where he spins like a beyblade? Yeah, every time he pops that bad boy off, you smack him with a hard CC. This is going to slow down his clear and his healing. While this isn't his only clear move, it's his best. It will at the very least slow home down.

Next make him choose either the clear or you. Don't huddle around your minions. Arthur is all about that AOE and heals. So don't give him both. His glad shield won't proc on minions but it will proc on you. So if you separate yourself from the minions he can only attack either you or your minions. which in turn means he can only clear or heal at any given moment.

Take his mana. If you have a heads up cheeky kind of jungler like me (when I play jungle) Anytime there's an Arthur I like to steal the enemy Arthurs mana. No mana = no abilities =bad time for Arthur. However it's pretty tough relaying on that kind of play. So you're going to need to do it yourself. Try and out clear the Arthur and push him back to tower and then take the mana. This way you'll avoid missing out on farm. But you may just need to lose farm to steal his mana. A key element to this is you'll need to get your own mana first. But without mana buff Arthur will need to pick yp mana chalice, which means he needs to give up health chalice or wards.

Finally GTFO of his way. Save your dashes for retreating. Try not to get hit by his abilities. Focus on your positioning too. Always be thinking about what that Arthur's next move is and how to counter it.

Gods good against Arthur. Heavy CC gods. Ranged attack gods also good for staying out of his reach while being able to clear. This is why I like mages against him. Camazotz is also good. I like Achilles he can definitely bully arthur around. Bellona has a disarm as well as a couple other ccs which make her a great pick. Pretty much any of your guardian solo's are going to be good. Although a bit tough still due to the lack of early game clear, but the CCs make it tough on Arthur.

Also one final note. In team fights spread out. Remember like the minions you want him to pick either you or someone else. Don't let him have both you. Doing twice the damage and twice the heals.

Good luck.

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AyeYoMobb•

I’d like to add to the list, play the Zhonger. Arthur’s biggest strength mentioned above is his ability to proc his glad. Well with Zhongshan 1-2 combo and pythag which you should be able to buy around the same time he’s getting glad, You’ll out clear and heal Arthur. The next thing he wants to do is bully you in lane, well with Zhongers ult you can pop it off fairly often, I try to use it anytime he aggresseses. The final thing you can do, and this goes for all gods. Contagion is a thing, this one item destroys his healing capabilities. I’d highly suggest always buying it or late game pestilence.

Build wise vs arthur(heavy healers): warriors, tier one of Pythagorean. Finish Pythagorean. Blue boots. Contagion. Voidstone. Gem of iso. From there you can kind of play around, but onis, extra pen, or cool down is good. If you go the pen route get divine for more anti heal.

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Imbali98•

Something to also consider is exiting combat with him. His energy gain and % mitigations stack each time he hits an ability. Exiting combat with him makes it harder for him to stack energy

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LtDuckersPittsburgh Knights :PittsburghKnights:•

This here is how you make a guide on counter play, not "hurr buy anti heal and dodge" you actually went in depth on how and why you take certain steps to counter play Arthur.

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skyrimshighkiny•

Anti heal is a must but generally anything u can do to mess with his movement will help play gods with cripples or slows or build some stuff to slow, artio is really good against him because of her cripple

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Sith-InquisitorSmite Reddit is for filthy weebs•

What are the best counter pick gods to deal with King Arthur?

Camazotz is one. Im not sure about Osiris, he could too.

What are the recommended build items against him?

Sustain (glad/berserker's/soul eater) / anti-heal (contagion/beat stick).

Also Arthur's early isn't that good till he gets glad shield.

Edit: Also if you're a magical you can build E-Staff if he starts building Blackthorn/Urchin/lots of health.

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skyrimshighkiny•

Artio is a good counter to him the aoe cripple fucks him hard

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ShepFPSSobek•

Jormungandr has been my go-to against Arthur. First, its harder for Arthur to get online vs a magical dmg opponent since glad shield only provides phys prots. Second, Jorms passive hard counters Arthurs charged ult. Arthut cannot lift Jorm making his ult nearly worthless against him. Third, even if you get bullied and lose the lane, as long as you farm efficiently, Jorm still makes more of an impact in teamfights than Arthur. Just my opinions here

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NitefelinaSlow but quick death!•

Horus, level your 1 3 2 1 then max 1 3 2 4. Start Warriors blessing and t1 katana. Slap him with your 1 and shoot him and the wave. 3 yourself back to safety and a heal when needed. At 1500 gold go back and get golden blade. Slap him around while basically 1 shooting the wave. If you're not bullying him because you aren't interrupting his 3 enough get contagion before boots. If you're bitch slapping him get boots to really punish him. Just remember to keep your 3 ready to retreat back to your wave as it comes up.

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backwardinduction1•
  1. Zhong Kui and Chang’e are good into him if you can play them well. You basically have to use your superior range to kite him and poke him back without getting hit.

  2. Camazozt to outsustain him and stalemate the lane works but I don’t like this option since lategame cama isn’t very good (neither is Arthur but still).

  3. Avoid fighting him and pick a god with better late game relevance than Arthur. This could be anything from a Geb or Athena with guardians blessing or an Amaterasu or Nike playing more passive and looking to rotate to teamfights as soon as they reach their power spike. If you can play Set you can also basically just play him by instaclearing the wave and using his mobility to proxy and steal jungle camps like crazy in between wavesinstead of boxing him, and Set’s lategame dive is way better than Arthur’s.

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Zaruze•

Jorm pretty much crushes him, you also just play the deny game. I crushed a Ka earlier as Sobek, letting him push to my tower and I'd just pluck him under it whenever he got close. Guardian blessings, sobek's built in heal and the fact that he can't fight you so close to your tower. It's easy to get a kill and to just avoid fighting him in general. Ka is like an annoying fly.

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airgordenCROC TO ME BABY •

Sobek is great imo. But Arthur is knockup immune during some of his abilities. Just got time things right.

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Zaruze•

Not exactly, Sobek's pluck stuns after connecting allowing to pluck him out of his dash and whatever.

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airgordenCROC TO ME BABY •

He’s 2 not pluck.

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Zaruze•

Ah, some people talk about his pluck that way, so just making sure.

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xtremefear27•

Osiris.

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kernkid•

I havent seen it yet, but cerberus. His passive is amazing against an arthur. However, you do need to be careful with this pick as he can use his knock-up to cancel your 2, which is generally your clear. You would probably want to level the 1 instead or make sure arthur uses the knock-up before you cast. You also cant ult him while hes doing his spinny-thing because hes knock-up immune during that ability

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_Frustr8d🆃🅰🅲🅺🅻🅴 🆃🅸🅼🅴•

Cu Chulainn is one of the biggest counters to Arthur. Get Contagion early and abuse your early game since Arthur is bad without Gladiator's Shield.

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_Frustr8d🆃🅰🅲🅺🅻🅴 🆃🅸🅼🅴•

I actually rush boots before Gladiator's on most gods, especially Cu Chu. The extra early power is great for him since he has so much scaling across his kit, and he wants to be as impactful in the early game as possible.

I usually rush Gladiator's after, but Contagion is definitely the best counter to Arthur atm. If you miss the sustain from Gladiator's, you can go Stone of Gaia instead. Mystical Mail is a great item, too, as long as you aren't too behind.

Edit: The start I always go on Cu Chulainn is Warrior's Blessing -> boots -> Health Chalice

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LittlePebble02•

Win lane before he gets Gladiators that's about it really.

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BWarr520Team RivaL :RivaL:•

Pros grab characters that can match his sustain to counter him. Zhong, Camazotz, Chang'e, etc.

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AvernuscionJungleterasu•

Freya w/ Stone of Gaia build destroys KA

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JTMReaper•

I enjoy a horus, hit him with ur 2 and 1 then 3 to your archers to avoid his abilities.

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