Where are my Pashtuns at?
Shout out to all Pashtuns (Paki and Afghan) let us know where your from.
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Posted Aug 15, 2019, 4:57 PM UTC
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Do afghanis consider themselves south asian? Iāve always wondered
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Not really but the ethnic group he mentions (Pashtuns) are found in Pakistan and Afghanistan
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Doesn't Afghanistani pashtuns have some sort of beef with Pakistani pashtuns?
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Yes they do.
Paki Pashtuns consider Afghan Pashtuns especially those from Kabul to be untrustworthy and not good people in general.
Referring to someone as a āKabul-your-nā (from Kabul) is used as an insult.
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So what part are you from?
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Peshawar Pakistan
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Oh okay. Usually the insults I seen online are from Afghanistani calling Pakistanis names and such for like "stealing" their dress code.
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Probably cause it was Eid couple days ago š
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Lol no what I meant by beef. Afghanistani pashtuns thinks Pakistani pashtuns always tries to steal their culture especially based on the way they wear cultural outfits. I was just asking because that what I have seen on Instagram. Literally calling Pakistani a thief. So that's why I was just asking.
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That's like saying a Pakistani Punjabi is stealing Punjabi culture or an Indian Bengali stealing bengali culture. They're literally the same people divided by an arbitrary line on a map.
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... but both are pashtuns lol
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Lol I know.
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Doing attan
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Yes hello. Where you all at, you beautiful people?
Definitely asking for a friend....
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This thread is giving me a hankering for plau
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Being "desified" and actually being desi are two completely different things. My family could move to Germany and I will be raised to be a German just like any other German, but that still does not make me ETHNICALLY German/ Germanic does it? Same thing here, just because a Pashtun is raised in punjabi like culture doesn't mean he is punjabi ethnically or even south Asian for that matter. And I'm sure that Peshawari Pashtuns have some south Asian blood in them due to them due to them being a periphery group of people right next to south Asian groups but they still consider themselves overwhelmingly Pashtun, as OP said he was. South asians (desis) honestly need to stop being so desperate and claiming other people.
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That isn't an apt example since the Punjabi identity itself is more of a cultural one then ethnic. Many tribes and castes that consider themselves Punjabi now didn't before the expansion of the Sikhs and spoke different tongues.
So you are saying that there is no such thing as a punjabi people/ race? I agree that the term punjabi didn't really appear the until the Sikh empire and what not but to say that these people aren't the same is false. The term punjabi is more of a catch all term to refer to the people who are native to the Punjab region. These people came from the same original group, but branched out into different tribes or qoums/biridaris and developed their own DIALECTS (not a completely different language).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punjabi_language
Also I said South Asian not Desi. You don't have to be Desi to be South Asian. Like Armenia is a Caucasus country with a tribal culture similar to Pashtuns (nowhere near to the same extent obviously) but is considered a part of Europe.
Let's be real here and stop arguing semantics , south Asia refers to the Indian subcontinent and all the nations that lay on it. Afghanistan only is able to relate with south Asia because of its political relations with Pakistan and the Pashtun people immigrating there. Afghanistan geographically does not lie on the Indian plate, and therefore should not be considered south Asian, and even less, desi.
Also I said South Asian not Desi. You don't have to be Desi to be South Asian. Like Armenia is a Caucasus country with a tribal culture similar to Pashtuns (nowhere near to the same extent obviously) but is considered a part of Europe.
Lmao Armenia is located in western Asia. And yes you do have to be south asian to be desi lol.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desi
Desi deriving from AncientĀ SanskritĀ ą¤¦ą„ą¤¶ (deÅĆ”), meaningĀ LandĀ orĀ Country. Sanskrit being an indigenous language of south Asia, specifically the indic indo-aryan people (north Indians like punjabis, kashmiris, rajasthanis etc etc...) meanwhile pashtuns literally are of a different race as they are iranics like you know... Iranians. And therefore don't speak any language descending from ancient sanskrit and would never be able to call themselves desis seeing as it would never be a word that they would be able to come up with since it derives from a completely different language family than the language that they speak.
You're taking this way too personal.
Lmao what, I'm taking this too personal? Lol I'm not the one who is desperately trying to include a people who are not native south asians into the group of south asians.
Just because they're Pashtun doesn't mean they're not South Asian, your average person in South Asia would too also identify more with their ethnic identity then their national one.
Yes it does, and I'm well aware that sub groups of Indians would rather identify with their regional ethnicity than being Indian; I consider myself a hyderabadi first, but always a Indian as well.
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What would you consider us?
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Don't let this guy undermine your identity!
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Tbh you guys should just be your own type of people. Btw aren't you guys related more to Iranians? (Sorry If this offends you).
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We originated from Iran but I think we now consider our selves Pakistani. However we donāt associate with any other Pakistanis such as Punjabiās, we consider them foreign and treat them as such.
Pakistan is like two countries is one, to the east and south you have the Punjabiās and to the north and west the Pashtuns.
Itās a weird situation.
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Mate, North-Eastern is Pakistan's Kashmir, South-Eastern is Sindhi and Eastern is the Punjab. North-Western is Pashtun and South-Western is Balochi. Even I know this.
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I donāt know why youāre being downvoted. I totally agree with. When is the average Desi gonna come to terms with their identity?
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I've always seen Pashtuns and Balochs being offended by being lumped in with desis.