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gregdoom

Still can’t get past madame butterfly.

I’ve seriously been stuck on her since 5 days after I got the game, which was on release day. I’m playing on Xbox one. I was wondering if there was any way someone could send me a saved game from right after you beat her. I like this game a lot, but I just haven’t had it click for me, and it’s kinda sucking the fun out of it. It’s so damn frustrating dying and dying and dying. Sorry if this isn’t the place for this.

Posted Aug 18, 2019, 6:51 AM UTC

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_grayghost:platinum-flair: Platinum Trophy•

She's an optional boss so you could always just move on for now and come back when you feel more confident

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gregdoomOP•

Oh damn. I didn’t know she was optional. I have no idea where to go then. Haha figures... it is a from software game.

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The_Cracked_Walnut•

What's the name of the most recent idol you've unlocked? Maybe I could lend you a hint on where to go next.

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gregdoomOP•

I’ve got dilapidated temple, Ashina outskirts, gate path, stairway, under bridge valley, gate fortress, castle gate, dragonspring hirata estate, estate path, bamboo thicket slope, and hirata audience chamber unlocked.

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The_Cracked_Walnut•

I don't wanna spoil too much, but you should be looking for a window either on the left or back side of Ashina castle. If you see Nightjar ninjas screaming and flying toward you, you're on the right track.

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Gaminguitarist:platinum-flair: Platinum Trophy•

Yea she’s optional but Id still try and get her boss fight over with dude. You get a memory which boosts attack power. And I’m just speaking from experience, but I was also stuck on Lady Butterfly too for a bit. But once I’ve beaten her, I’ve literally defeated 4 more mini bosses after her. Blazing bull, lone shadow, 7 Ashina Spears, and the Guard on the castle steps. So, maybe you still shouldn’t give up just yet, maybe it’ll be the fight that “clicks” for you like t did for me.

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SoraTsukiyomi•

Well if you've gotten the bell you've at least reached the house the old lady was in. If you keep going down that path you should reach the chained ogre eventually. After you beat the chained ogre you jump into the building behind him. There should be an exit out into the next area to your left. If you go exactly straight, you'll reach a cliff with a broken bridge. Look down and slightly to the left and you should see a platform and the next idol. Keep making your way down and from there it should be fairly easy to make your way to the next area. Eventually you'll make it to a kind of fortress/castle like area. Over one of the walls you should be able to see what looks like a battlefield. It's a long drop down but that's where you're supposed to go. I think other than that you should be able to figure out where to go on your own. Good luck.

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gregdoomOP•

Ah shit. I haven’t got the bell yet.

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SoraTsukiyomi•

You definitely have the bell..... You can't go to lady butterfly without the bell. The bell is what gives you access to Hirata Estate in the first place.

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HiJumpTactician:SekiroSweat: Must Git Gud•

Isn't there a boss in Dark Souls like that? Old King or something?

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riversrunthroughme•

I second the suggestions for moving on. You'll gain some attack power/beads that will make things easier.

Here's some other suggestions if you don't skip her and for learning combat in general.

  1. Watch some videos of combat against her, particularly speed runs or no-death charmless runs with the controller in your hand. Practice hitting the buttons when the Youtuber does to help get the timings down.
  2. When you fight, try taking your hand off the left thumb stick, avoid using items besides the gourds, and only focus on regular attack/dodge/jump perilous attacks. What's likely happening is paying attention to too many things at once and not actively focused on learning cues. Give particular attention to the visual and audio cues that let you know when you've perfectly parried an attack and when she's shift from defending to attack you. These moments are signalled by specific noises and lights/sparks.
  3. After you've spent some time focused on memorising her basic strings, go all out again but try to keep your movements to an absolute minimum and Sekiro in her face. There are only a few times you Sekiro should be from moving at all beyond walking to stay in her face.
    1. Tap vertical jump to avoid her perilous sweep
    2. Run away from the spectres and get behind pillar when she turns them into butterflies.
    3. (optional) Tap dodge to avoid her jump down grapple. You can also just throw a shurriken at her while she's on the wire.
    4. (optional) dodge once to the side after she perfectly blocks your attacks and counter-attacks (listen for audio cue) to get a hit in.
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SoraTsukiyomi•

She's actually an optional boss so you don't have to beat her. Considering you want a save after beating her, you can just ignore her and save her for later if you want. There is nothing after her too so you really don't need to beat her to see anything else. As for how to beat her.... keep up the pressure and deflect as needed.

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jiff1912•

Move on without beating her. She's a difficult boss if you fight her early. There are less punishing learning opportunities at your current level. Can come back to her later.

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ginja_ninja:platinum-flair: Platinum Trophy•

First off rebind sprint to right trigger, it's a superior way to play the game. Remember that you can shuriken her out of the air. If she's perched on the wire she'll block it though, you have to wait until she actually leaps off it. It's very important to stay aggressive against her, attack until she deflects and be ready to counter deflect so you can go right back to attacking. You will build a ton of posture this way. Make ample use of sprint to close the distance when she backs off or evade her shurikens/phantom energy. Also make sure to get the midair deflect skill because it allows you to start to safely incorporate jump-ins to your approach, jump attacks come out faster than sprint attacks so they can be good pressure, and also you can block if she starts to attack whereas you can't block out of sprint right away so it's safer when you get close. If you stay hyper aggressive you can actually get through the entire second phase without giving her a chance to summon the ghost bois.

Also you have beaten Oniwa, right? The "intended" progression is supposed to be getting the flame barrel from Hirata, then returning to the present and using it on Chained Ogre, then going to Oniwa. He's much easier than LB, will uograde your attack power, and the NPC you meet after him gives you the extremely good Ashina Arts scroll. Bad idea to take on LB before doing all that, she is supposed to be the second major boss you fight.

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gregdoomOP•

Yeah I beat gyobu a while ago.

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Tornadomoose•

Learn how to deflect and dodge for as long as you can, without hitting her. It will "click" when you learn her patterns of attack, and then deflect, dodge, or block everything she throws at you. Then you will begin to see the openings when she's able to be attacked. Be methodical, but not greedy. Attack once or twice, then back off. Throw shurikens at her when she's in the air to bring her to the ground before she attacks.

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FoxAche82:platinum-flair: Platinum Trophy•

The way I did it (yesterday) was to hit once or twice and dodge left or right, hit a couple more times and dodge back the other way. When she jumps in the air throw a shuriken at her to knock her out of the sky and repeat as before.

When she summons spirits just run around until they turn to stars (or whatever) and keep running until they all miss you then go back to step one.

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dj5150reddit•

I beat her by being relentless even if i took damage, I was on her like a fly on shit. Was it easy, no, but it worked.

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Saardnaas•

I was super stuck aswell and had so many hours of tries with her but then I finally saw i video with Fuzzy Bearbarian on Youtube. And i took her down after less then 20 tries today. So happy! Imo it helped so much and i have been watching his vid now on my next bosses aswell. I am chearing for you! 👍

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gregdoomOP•

I’m not seeing the purple smoke... maybe I’m just a fucking idiot... Jesus. I haven’t had this much trouble since demon souls... hahaha.

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gregdoomOP•

Fighting her in general. She always beats me. It’s frustrating. I’m not sure what or how to beat here, so I figured I’d ask here for some tips. Or a safe file because I’m lame. Haha

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