Microdosing
Anyone have experience with microdosing on MAT? Thinking about picking up some boomers to start microdosing with. I’d love to hear y’all’s experience
Posted Aug 20, 2019, 3:01 PM UTC
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Anyone have experience with microdosing on MAT? Thinking about picking up some boomers to start microdosing with. I’d love to hear y’all’s experience
Posted Aug 20, 2019, 3:01 PM UTC
Hey as long as you are solid in your recovery/support system and are healthy mentally & physically I'd say go for it!
I am on suboxone and I have found great healing and relief in bi-weekly ketamine infusions and the occasional use of a psychadelic at low to medium doses (usually just once a month never more than 2x).
I feel like the ketamine "defrags" my brain and kind of "resets" it if I am struggling with sticking at a dose drop. The psychedelics are healing for me spiritually, I haven't take mushrooms yet due availability issues but I've had great experiences with 4-aco-dmt and some lysergamides. Both the ketamine and the lsd give me a great antidepressant afterglow that really helps battle the negative side effects of suboxone and encourages a healthier lifestyle, I've begun to do a light work out every day and I make a lot healthier choices in my diet.
Not quite microdosing, now that I think about it maybe it is because I alternate and wait 2 weeks between substances that I am able to have a good experience with it? Although you'd just be microdosing so it could possibly work out great. I recommend keeping a journal/log of your dosing habits and daily experiences
So long as the psychedelic in question doesn't make you crave your drug of choice I say dose away! But if you notice your craving for your DOC goes up then please stop, it is not healthy. A year ago I wouldnt have been able to handle the regimen I have now because I was still stuck in a very negative mindset brought on by years of 12-Step pressuring and that "complete abstinence" is the only way.
Haha sorry for the novel but I rarely see people on sub ask about this so I felt compelled to share my experience.
I’ve been very interested in Ketamine treatment but it’s just so expensive and I can’t afford it right now. I could maybe do once a month ketamine infusions but that might be pushing it. I’ve heard some amazing things about this. With ketamine infusions, do you have to go biweekly or weekly at first or can you go once a month? I’d love to do this but I’d also love for my insurance to cover it :)
I’m in a pretty good place In my recovery and I’m considering it but I’m not married to the idea.
I’m glad to hear you’ve gotten away from the 12 steps brain washing. I don’t believe in their abstinence only approach to recovery and I’ve gotten away from it too. I’m taking my recovery into my own hands and doing what’s best for me. It makes me angry that 12 steps is the center of all treatment centers out there and that the idea of you can’t stay sober without it pisses me off. What’s ironic is all these suboxone doctors push for people to go to 12- step meetings for additional support and some go only to be shunned and pushed away told they have to be off MAT. Yet these ass clowns are smoking packs a day preaching about how they’re clean and shit. Ughh pisses me off. Anyways.
Thanks for the thorough answer my friend!
Yeah I first went to rehab at 19 and it was 12 step based and so has every single one since then except for one, I'm 29 now, so it was ingrained into me to the point of being unhealthy.
Oh I could never afford to get the infusions at a clinic, and the alternative nose spray (Spravato) is rarely covered by insurance and even more expensive. I got so fed up with the system only allowing for the wealthy to be able to afford it so I got my own vial and IM needles (my DOC was heroin but I'm at a place in my life were im no longer "triggered" by needles).
Edit: I do bi-weekely infusions.
Damn, I wouldn’t even begin to know where to find a vial of ketamine. I guess you could find some in the onion fields..
It’s insanely expensive at a clinic, it’s like $450 for an hour. They want you to do 6 infusions within 2-6 weeks time. There’s no way I could pay for that out of pocket. A series of 6 infusions is $2400 if you pay for that package.
I’m not triggered by the needle thing, I give myself weekly injections of Testosterone. Out of curiosity, what dosage of Ketamine are you giving yourself?
Jesus that is just insane! I like to hole so I usually do 125mg to 150mg IM. Might just do 100mg for my next one. Still trying to get a feel for how the tolerance works, I'm not disappointed if I dont hole because bottom line I'm doing it mainly for the antidepressant effects and I dont want to get in the habit of redosing, I treat it more like a medication than a "drug".
Yeah I had a real hard time finding it, even shard ketamine is rarely seen in my area. It's out there if you look hard enough and have time and btc to invest. I started out feeling great from intranasal 2fdck (a ketamine analogue) but it felt dirty to me so I knew I had to look for the medical grade original stuff if I was going to integrate it into my life in a healthy way.