First build, can you experts please let me know if I have missed anything?

Multicopter

After many many hours on the Velocidrone, I have decided to go forward with first FPV drone and goggles. I have watched many videos and would like to know from you guys if you think this could work or if I'm missing anything.

  • DJI FPV Fly More Combo (mode 2) (comes with controller, googles, air unit and camera)
  • Rotorgeeks 7075 Series 2204 2300kv
  • HQ Durables Tri 5x4.6
  • T-Motor F4+F55A PROII HD (is this one coming with another camera? it shows so on all the pictures but doesnt make sense..)
  • T-Motor T5143S Propeller
  • TransTEC LASER HD Frame
  • Currently looking for Batteries (4S) and charger and not too sure which one is best value to start with that can fit the rest of this kit

Thank you!

Posted Sep 7, 2019, 5:08 PM UTC

324
BarbsFPV•

Everything looks pretty good except for the motors. 2204 was decent about four years ago, but these days I wouldn’t go below 2207 or 2208, though 2306 might be even better.

According to DJI’s site no extra camera is included with that FC stack.

Looks like you’re diving in headfirst. You’ll definitely like that setup!

1
yurkiaMulticopters•

Looks like you’re diving in headfirst. You’ll definitely like that setup!

Hopefully.... otherwise that's a huge chunk of cash wasted. Haha

2
CyborgalienbearOP•

Thank you! Good to know about the motors but it's the least expensive part so when I become better I'll buy some upgrade. Gotta leave some room for upgrades hahaha

1
BarbsFPV•

They’ll be extremely gutless. The 3BHobby and iFlight Xing-E motors are cheap and good. Or if you really want to make sure you have to upgrade get the DYS Samguk motors for $10 each, lol.

But seriously those motors are terrible by today’s standards. You’ll upgrade them after your first flight. That’s not an upgrade path, that’s a waste.

Good luck!

3
CyborgalienbearOP•

Good to know! I didn't know the difference would be that big, I was just aiming for something a bit easier to fly. I guess I will order some better ones then. Thanks for the advice

1
it2d•

That makes some sense, but if you're worried about having too much power to learn, you could always limit the max throttle in your transmitter (or in Betaflight, I think). That way, you'll avoid having too much power, and just increase the max throttle rather than change motors when you're ready for more power.

2
it2d•

Yeah, I'm not sure what you're doing with those motors.

The 2204 motors you're looking at cost like $13 each, so $52 for the set of four. the iFlight Xing 2207 motors cost $20 each, so $80 for the set. You're intentionally buying underpowered motors so you can save $28? If you're on a super tight budget, OK. But you're spending nearly a thousand dollars on the DJI system and then intentionally giving yourself a sub-par flight experience to save $30? I don't understand that.

And as someone else said, you can get the DYS Samguk motors in 2207 2600kv for $10, so they're actually cheaper than the ones you've chosen. And the Samguks may not be top of the line, but they're more than adequate--I use them myself. You can buy them here: https://www.getfpv.com/dys-samguk-series-wei-2207-2600kv-motor.html

I have no affiliation with anyone.

Seriously, dude. Don't buy shitty motors just so that you can upgrade them later. Buy the best motors you can buy now. 2204s are not those motors, and certainly not for $3 more per motor than the Samguks.

2
RoboDisko•

As a counter opinion, I have a a quad with cheap 2204 and one with nice 2206 motors. I frequently choose the cheap one, partly because the smaller motors are easier to control. The power on my 2206 is a little intimidating, and much more likely to get me in a bad situation.

Now, my 2204 quad is built cheap, flown hard, and I call it my trainer. Your build isn't going to be so cheap. I looked at the motors you're planning on, and they really don't have much going for them. I think you'll find you can get similar for cheaper, or better for about the same. I've got the ultra-cheap rs2204 on my trainer, about $5 for knock offs from China. For your build I'd recommend considering what I've got on my 'fast' quad, the rcx2206v3. They are about the same price, but they have much better motor technology. The arc magnets and hollow titanium prop shafts, etc... If you can handle the shipping time they are super awesome. http://www.myrcmart.com/rcx-rs2206-v3-2400kv-fpv-racing-motor-japan-ezo-bearing-n52sh-arc-magnet-p-11239.html

2 years of better motor tech for about the same price is nice, but just go for what you like. The rotorgeek ones seem like an odd choice, but they'll do just fine. Either way, you can still go to some of the more ambitious 2207, 2306, etc motors later, or you can enjoy a lighter, easier to control quad with better battery life.

2
CyborgalienbearOP•

Thanks for the advice! I'll definitely look into it but yeah the idea was to get some easy to pilot motors and then upgrade when I feel ready.

1
RoboDisko•

Remember, a better motor will be able to start up in thicker grass as well as provide crisper response. You can limit the max throttle in betaflight or on your remote if you aren't ready for it, and making it super easy to get to when you are ready for it. But a smaller motor should weigh a little less, which can help in crashes.

Also remember to check motor wire lengths. I know the rcx motors have long enough wires to reach your esc without extensions, but some motors won't have long enough wires.

2
RoboDisko•

For economical but good performing batteries I'd recommend the turnigy 1400 mAh 4s 40c or 65c. They are $14 or $15 respectively, the biggest difference seems to be the size and weight, performance difference isn't so big. But if you get bigger than 2204 or bigger than 2300kv, probably best to get the 65c.

https://hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-1400mah-4s-40c-lipo-pack-w-xt60.html

https://hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-1400mah-4s-65c-lipo-pack-w-xt60.html

They are great for the price, but if you have a real extreme quad you are going to want a beefier pack like the cnhl 100c.

For a charger, I just got an hota d6 pro and it's really good. I'd recommend it or any of it's rebrands. It's not the cheapest charger, but it charges 2 batteries plenty fast, and has tons of options. My favorite feature is actually that it doesn't need any adapters to charge batteries, which helps a ton. Just make sure you get the 'pro' version that has the ac adapter build it. https://hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-reaktor-d6-pro-duo-ac-dc-6s-balance-charger-discharger-w-smartphone-wireless-charging-dc325w-x-2-us-plug.html

https://www.racedayquads.com/products/hota-d6-pro-dual-channel-325w-15a-ac-dc-battery-charger

1
CyborgalienbearOP•

Thanks for the tip! I ordered a charger yesterday and while it doesn't have the adapters included like yours it seemed like super easy to use and most comment would say that also

1
RoboDisko•

What charger did you go for?

1
CyborgalienbearOP•

ISDT Q6 Pro

1
RoboDisko•

That's a good alternative. Does that one have an AC adapter built in?

1