[Discussion] "It's Easier to Destroy Something Someone Else Built than to Build Something New"
I think cancel culture, is akin to the above quote a business associate/mentor once told me. If you notice, the pattern of censorship, cancellations, and the general "change this piece of art based on my beliefs" mentality results from it being much easier to destroy something than to build something new.
Take ZQ for example. Look at her credits and ask yourself, "what has this person actually built or contributed to building?"
Now ask "what institutions, people, businesses, has this person contributed in destroying?"
This is the crux of the culture war in my opinion, is people who are in outrage find it easier to riot and burn things down rather than come up with a true solution, or solve a problem effectively by building something and dedicating focus and resources to that thing.
Let's take another example, Daryl Davis has spent most of his life combatting racism through kindness. He deradicalizes people by basically asking them "Why do you hate me because I'm black?" opening up a dialog and being persistent in building a relationship to where the other party can see "my views are probably wrong because this guy has been very kind, so I'm going to attempt to change my ways." And he has the proof to show this method works.
On the other hand, most on Twitter would have you believe the only option for dealing with racists is punching them in the face.
The pattern becomes more clear. One would rather build, the other destroy.
So I'll leave it at this, I read some really good advice when it comes to cancel culture:
"If you are not sure you are doing the right thing, ask a simple question: am I building something? Whether it be a structure, an institution, or simply a positive idea, proposal, or method."
Posted Sep 14, 2019, 1:06 PM UTC
In the warped minds of cancel culture enthusiasts they are building something: Utopia. But according to them an oppressive Establishment supported by deplorable sub-humans stands in the way of their beautiful vision. So guess what? Gotta destroy absolutely everything (and anyone arbitrarily deemed impure) first whether it's fair or foul or whether anyone wants it or not. You might as well try to persuade the Terminator not to kill Sarah Conner.
Or convincing studios there should have been only one Highlander movie
Hah! I had almost scrubbed those stinkers from my memory. Thanks for dredging them up again. In fairness, I watched the original with my son recently. That flick did not age well. Clancy Brown is a hoot, but that's about it. Dat Queen soundtrack? P U-eee!
What is this heresy? Dat Queen soundtrack was and is awesome!
The third one is a guilty pleasure as Mario Van Peebles really hams it up as the villain. There is a scene where he eats a condom
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This is Marxism and its offshoot cultural Marxism in a nutshell. It's not surprising that ideologies that sprung from them act in similar manners. They have a vision and for that vision to be enacted, they need to tear everything down.
When the proletariat didn't rise up and overthrow the bourgeoisie as the Marxists predicted when war broke out, they had to look elsewhere for their theories of why and how. This is why Critical Theory was devised, tear down the central backbones of a western society: family and faith, so as to tear down the people that make the 'oppressive' culture.
Just how big and bad do you think the resulting backlash will end up being when their subversive plot finds itself again up pooper creek without a paddle?
I don't think it's feasibly possible now, at least not soon or without some huge upheaval. You would need to convince the majority of people that what's being taught in Universities is not only worthless, it's actually harming society. Either that or the business owners and people with power in the government need to be willing to let people know that, since what's on mainstream media is heavily controlled.
Oh i'm talking about when it gets so bad that normal people are forced to notice because the cultural cracks are too wide to not get tripped up over. Only once the "convincing" stage has been reached by the solid manifestation of unignorable problems will the change Begin to happen ( so 5 to 15 years ) because then nobody will Need convincing by trusted figures.
THEN you get the backlash, when the junkie realizes that all the cocaine is Gone gone.
They control banking, financial, tech, media, and government through the Western world. In the US we are looking at a one party rule in 2024 when Texas flips blue. As a Christian, I believe their downfall is inevitable, but short of divine intervention, what do you think can be done?
Sub-divine intervention?
I think one of the more important things we forget to discuss is how western society came to be infiltrated by such ideology. Discussing this not only gives us a better understanding of the issue, but also paints a clearer whole picture which outsiders can more easily accept.
So my question to you: How do you think this all got started?
The question is where to start in a very complicated history.
As an (sic) old-school more-left-leaning-much I must object and tell you that all of the cancel culture BS and SocJus abomination in general has NOTHING to do with Marxism except red flags (just like USSR lol). All of these identity politics and stuff cause NOTHING but alienation and division amidst the working class. Instead of standing up against powerful lobbies of big business in the governments and the impact they have on us right now, they buy the most classic "divide et impera" crap — youth as always the most politically active is told that all the modern world troubles come from a regular white working man, and for white working men and those of youth who don’t fall for the first part they’ve got their own pocket "fascists", radical conservative Christians and stuff. Thus the brain-washed youth attacks the white working class, and those of it who don't succumb to the BS of "white guilt" go full right-wing. Who's the winner here? Corpos are. Their main threat is eliminated. While the brain-washed zombies of both the new "left" and right are engaging into Twitter dog fights, dem corpos make a profit and get to control more and more of our lives. Welcome to dem grime cyberpunk future m8.
Edit: Needless to say, uncle Joe would have them instantly shot, and in more humane Brezhnev times these so-called modern "Marxists" and other SJWs would be just put into an asylum to make a vegetable from them, 'cause don’t you dare to spoil the idea.
The Marxist philosophers were the ones that came up with the social theories we collectively call cultural Marxism. They came up with them because their expected outcomes to invoke a Marxist revolution failed, so they went back to the drawing board. The political theorists theorized that Marx's uprising didn't occur because Western values and Christianity were too entrenched for it to occur.
One of the key cultural Marxist philosophers was Georg Lukacs, who had originally designed a plan as the Minister of Culture in the Hungarian Soviet Republic to undermine normal Western sexual views. After the collapse of the country, he fled to Austria where he met up with other Marxist philosophers, one notable one being Antonio Gramsci.
When Antonio Gramsci had returned to Italy, he was imprisoned by the fascists, and wrote notes outlining something he referred to as "cultural hegemony" where he outlined various aspects of what he perceived to make up Western culture.
He wrote that academia and media need to push a "counter hegemony" to undermine those planks of Western culture
In 1923, German Marxist political theorists influenced by these two political theorists, as well as Sigmund Freud and sociologist Max Weber, opened a political think tank called the The Institute for Social Research at the Frankfurt University.
These included Max Horkheimer, Theodor Adorno, Wilhelm Reich, Herbert Marcuse, and Erich Fromm. While they agreed with Marx's political philosophy, they believed he had underestimated the power of culture. They made the observation that a lot of the workers were moving into the middle class and had no motivation to rise up for a revolution.
Since National Socialism in Germany considered them as the Enemy, they all fled to the United States when Hitler came to power, where they were welcomed by Columbia University.
After Hitler's defeat, all of them returned to Germany to reestablish there, except Herbert Marcuse.
Marcuse believed that the Marxist revolution wouldn't be brought about by the proletariat, but by a coalition of blacks, feminists, homosexuals, and students. He became popular in the 1960s due to the Vietnam war. He was the one that designed what we are currently suffering today. He believed the left should be embraced because its "tolerant", and all right wing ideologies should be suppressed because they aren't.
It’s worth noting that you've mentioned yourself that they fled to the US, not to the USSR. If they did to pull up this crap there they’d be shot or sent to labour camps for no shit. All of their post-modern "culture" crap is viewed as a bourgeois revisionism at best, and as a conscious malevolent diversion meant to discredit everything the idea stands for and the "divide et impera" reactionists' tactic, by any person at least somehow related to old-school classic Marxism, for the very reason I've described above — instead of solidifying unity of the proletariat regardless of their origin, nation, ethnicity or religion, it spreads nothing more than alienation and division between them and making them turn on one another, which in the end of the day serves the true exploiters. The very concept of "racial privilege" brought up by them looks as straight up racist and NS bullshit for any oldie leftie or at least a person brought up in the USSR or a bit after its collapse. Welp, whatever
This is the problem with what the OP wrote: it relies on others having objectively reasonable beliefs and the awareness to enact them.
People don't work that way. They are biased, irrational, and crazy at times (including myself and everyone reading this). Sometimes, you have to create a system that has the right incentives to punish those who destroy value. Get woke, go broke will work over the long run.
Edit: to be clear, by work, I mean get rid of the people getting woke in for-profit corporations. Shareholder awareness is slow, but it happens over time, and when it happens, it happens big.
To second what you said and also kind of add to it is this statement.
I forget where i heard it but it says that:
"A truly evil man is some one who believes what they are doing is right."
These people really are the worst of the worst as they don't care who they have to hurt to get what they want and they believe they are right in doing so, and believe that they doing the world a favor.
I came here to write this but you did it better than I could.
Pol Pot thought that. Two million Cambodians (22% of the population) paid with their lives.