VHF 150-174MHz

DIY Projects/questions

During the summer I work as a lookout for the Forest Service sitting in a tower about 4600ft above sea level. Frequently I work with firefighters either in the air or down in valleys as low as 1200ft that use tactical channels that are line of sight rather than bouncing off the repeaters in the area. With the equipment in the tower I'll often get half of conversations, which is pretty frustrating when trying to keep in the loop.

Currently I'm trying things out with an RTL-SDR v3 kit with the dipole antenna at about 0.44m each end, and attached though an FM (88-108MHz) and an AM (2.6MHz) blocker. Additionally I have it going through an LNA (50MHz-4GHz).

Focusing on receiving, specifically in the range of 151.19 to 173.7625MHz, what are the next steps to improve by gain and range?

I've removed as much potential electrical interference as I can (though there are still telecom towers right next to me), and I'm thinking on putting up a larger omnidirectional antenna and maybe some Ferrite beads for good measure.

Any other suggestions?

Posted Oct 4, 2019, 4:02 AM UTC

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rtlsdrblogrtl-sdr.com•

For those frequencies you don't need to use the AM filter, that's probably reducing reception as it's being used at out of spec frequencies. And at those frequencies an LNA might not be that useful, and might make things worse, unless you are using a long run of coax cable. Try it with and without the LNA.

My recommendation: Put the antenna up as high as possible with an unobstructed 360 deg view. Have the LNA at the antenna and BCFM filter before the LNA (closer to the antenna), then run some coax to get it to the radio. Or use a USB extension cable and get the dongle by the antenna and don't use the LNA.

If you have telco towers next to you, you might be getting interference from some frequency other than the broadcast band. In that case i'd recommend building yourself a 151.19 to 173.7625 MHz bandpass filter.

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SentientUniversOP•

Things definitely seem better with the LNA vs without.

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IntroverseRadio[Ham Radio Extra]•

Height of the antenna is important. If you're getting blocked by the landscape in any direction, there's nothing you can do, really. So try to have the antenna see the transmitters as much as possible.

If your sdr setup lets you hear them generally, then you're good on that front.

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realhoffman•

Cool job

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f3208•

I am a volunteer fire fighter and we are using the same freqs here, mostly around 155MHz, I got a MURS fire stik antenna, put the RTL-SDR v3 right up to the antenna with a PL-259-SMA adapter. I sealed the SDR with some silicone, wrapped the connections in silicone tape. It works fantastic, pull in stuff ~155MHz from as much as 140 miles away. Ran a 15FT USB cable into the house to a Raspberry pi 3B running RTL_airband, that streams from darkice also on the pi. The radio runs for days on end without a reboot.

You might want to run COAX + Lightning suppressor then the SDR since I am sure that place gets a few lightning shows.

Antenna was < $50 online.

http://www.firestik.com/Catalog/MURS_Base.htm

The difference between that MURS antenna and the dipole was very significant.

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