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AC_AChilles

Solo players should go to Party instead of staying in FFA

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Title.

To soloists adamant about soloing in FFA: get over it :)

Agario FFA is de facto teamingland. There's no ifs, ors, and buts about "muh anti-team" or "teaming ruins XYZ". Teaming is fun and among the staunch soloists only a few get the hint. Spoiler alert: misery isn't very marketable and it shows.

It's very simple actually: teaming brings joy and soloing brings anger. So I urge everyone to learn How to Slow Team in FFA like a Pro. Soloists should leave FFA and everyone will be happy.

Besides, "anti-team" doesn't help soloists anyways so going to Party makes sense for Soloists lol.

What a win-win situation.

Edit: great to find out people actually read lol

Posted Oct 4, 2019, 4:18 AM UTC · edited

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ImranRashid•

this is kind of funny, it's been a while and i decided to randomly check this subreddit and saw this.

first i was gonna say, wow, look at all those links- you seem to have put some effort into this, so i'll take some time to write something...

but then i actually clicked on the first three and...they kind of don't support anything you've said. so, i don't really know what to say- you put in a hilarious amount of effort and still didn't succeed at making your point.

anyway, i don't play this game any more precisely because of teaming. i don't feel miserable about it...at least i think i don't. maybe you can come up with a way to argue that i actually do but i just don't realize it.

i will say this though- games...or any multi-user experience (say like an instant messenger service) usually rely on an influx of new users. of the pool of potential new users, statistically, there is a greater likelihood of those people being soloists (in that they have no social connection to anyone who already plays)- and having a game design which is biased against such players (teams, and no inherent way of communication to give themselves a chance to join or form teams), sort of spells the obvious end to a user base (and therefore game) through slow attrition. eventually, people who play regularly- stop playing, and there will not be enough new players joining and sticking around to replace them, because the solo experience is shit.

i mean this really doesn't matter to me from an agario player standpoint since i don't play at all any more, but being bored i thought i'd take the time to at least suggest to readers to click on your links and not just blindly believe that they have validity because you've made the words clickable.

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Nico497•

Dw he's basically a meme now

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VictError•

LMAO true

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AC_AChillesOP•

If the links are your only major point of disagreement then I'd say I'm doing a great job!

Glad to find out you're actually clicking on them. Enjoy the updated links :)

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VictError•

Your links still don't really support what you are saying lol...

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AC_AChillesOP•

Read the comments in the said posts?

Edit: lemme spell it out for you:

(1) u/lexfry says people team in FFA because there are "tons of organized clans who war or inter team to attack other clans"; u/KevineCove says "it's easier and some people just really want to get big even if it means begging for help"

(2) Your shill u/Frandle_Scarlet repeatedly criticised Miniclip and FFA itself even though there are games modes that suit him better, like Party mode.

(3) u/moomoocowbrow understands Miniclip intends the game as it is now. He left Agar to avoid perpetuating his own displeasure, which is an understandable decision.

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VictError•

Well most of the comments don't support your point and the ones that do are either by you yourself or u/SamiraMiracle xD

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I_AM_LEGEND_agario•

Troll alert

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SamiraMiracle•

No, he is not a troll.

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VictError•

Would be better if he was a troll for his sake tbh

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RifleGaming69•

He is

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SamiraMiracle•

He aint.

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RifleGaming69•

shut the hell up u slow teamer

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VictError•

First off, I actually enjoy soloing on FFA. There is nothing more satisfying than destroying slow teams. I have also never even thought about slow teaming myself, and I am certain it would be absolutely boring for me if I do. Anyway, I play agar.io because I find it fun, and if I don't find it fun, I stop playing. Simple. No anger, and therefore, I will never start slow teaming because I would rather just quit the game. There is nothing wrong with being "adamant" about soloing because that is how we choose to play, and it is simply a fact that solo is how FFA is meant to be played.

Now let's see... As always, your arguments don't make sense. First of all, your hyperlink for "teaming is fun" is literally a post saying "fake-teaming is fun"... what a fail xD. Secondly, nobody is denying the state of FFA of being "teamingland", or else nobody would be complaining. Furthermore, I've never heard the verb "advocate" used in a context to advocate for something negative, so I don't know about that, but anyway, as I said earlier, we are only advocating for how the game should be played, no harm in that. Also, the only reason there are such limited amounts of solo players now is because so many of them have left the game (because they had the dignity to do so instead of joining the slow teamers - also an example of what teaming ruins) or some people decided to join the slow teamers... But the best sentence in your post is where you say "teaming brings joy and soloing brings anger" which is ironically illogical because actually, teaming brought anger to the otherwise joyful soloing lmao.

To be honest though, I don't even care that you are advertising slow teaming because FFA is already so bad it practically can't get worse and just the fact that there are people that think slow teaming is "pro" is hilarious as hell. Slow teamers are 99% of the time pathetic as hell. For starters, many of them literally have 10 friends and they all gang up on one solo player... honestly I used to get mad at this (so unfair), but now, I actually find it funny because it's just so lame... and they still have trouble eating me lol. Also, random helping is just as, if not even more pathetic by the way.

Moreover, why should soloists leave FFA if they want to play there? I don't like soloing on party mode because servers are so empty and you end up getting savaged all the time... why should solo players be the one to have to go to party when FFA is meant to be for solo players... how about slow teamers go to party eh?

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n8xyz•

Jesus Christ mate, SLOW TEAMING IS JUST STAYING IN 16 PIECES FOR HOURS WITH YOUR GANG OF 50 KRAKENS. Teaming is so, so boring, solo doesn't bring anger, teams bring anger into the servers. Slow teaming is not hard to do and i never even see it done well, the clans have trouble trying to chase a still target.

Stop ruining the integrity of the mode, i honestly don't see how slow teaming is fun in the slightest, you incompetent fuck just play party, that's where teams go!

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AC_AChillesOP•

Slow teaming is an art of patience, diplomacy, and strategy.

Soloists can benefit from Party's private link feature and lack of mass-decay.

FFA is great for slow teaming. Teamers don't complain about FFA being "bad for teaming", after all. OTOH soloist always complain about FFA being "ruined", "abandoned by Miniclip", etc. so Party mode is the place for Soloists.

What do you have against Party? It's got everything a soloist would want!

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n8xyz•

Strategy... really?

you literally said earlier about how you can't even eat anyone cos your FRIENDS have already savaged them, there is little strategy in slow teaming when compared to the admirable, complex strategies used by party teamers and solos, slow teamers don't even go for anything interesting, just split and get fed, splitrunning, wavespliting, even trickspliting is too much for them. The only strategy involved is crying to your entire army of friends when you start getting eaten by someone much smaller than you.

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What do i have against party?

Nothing! The integrity of the mode is intact, it's perfect for teaming of ANY KIND, solos have a hard time there because it is usually a 2-4 on 1, but at least the teamers are actually good, can chase their target via splitrunning, tricksplit for kills, the skill shows, FFA teamers show how little skill they have, exemplifying that they are incapable of gaining mass themselves, and rely on being carried and carrying. It's not perfect for a solo player, the ideal FFA is, infact not even the ideal, just an FFA FFA would be amazing for solos, party has skilled teams which as it is 2v1 gives the solo player little-to-no options on survival.

You talk about how solos fantasize about an ideal FFA and call it silly and childish, YOU ARE THE ONES STOPPING THIS FROM BEING A REALITY!

Patience is required to slow team, just sit there slowing bobbing about waiting for your friends to savage.

Please just leave the sub or stop encouraging slow teaming, smh

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AC_AChillesOP•

Strategy

What aspect of superior positioning do you not understand? Your friends would prevent target's escape and thus able to savage it. Solo players, on the other hand, only cry about FFA and dream about being Wun Wun.

solos have a hard time there because...

More excuses. Methinks it is just soloists' incompetence.

YOU ARE THE ONES STOPPING THIS FROM BEING A REALITY!

Soloists reap what they sow. Anytime there be adversary, soloists only blame. Instead of migrating to Party like I suggested, they adamantly stay in FFA just to be food.

Like other commenters said, the slow teamers have "little skill". Yet they are more than sufficient to overcome solo players. This shows how incompetent solo players are in general; thus it must be true that they vastly overestimate their abilities.

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n8xyz•

superior positioning my ass (pardon my language), they just run over to you in 16 pieces and usually die in my cases as they come to close and their teamate's reactions are too slow.

Your friends? You mean the 50 noobs covering the entire map yeah, they can't even cover well they just kinda sit there and chase you into a corner and get fed.

Little strategy is required and even demonstrated by slow teaming, there may be some amazing slow teams out there who do cool tricks on their victims and even feed them to make it a fair fight, but the skill cap is low, very low.

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You have such an apparent bias in your arguments, and what do you mean solo players are the ones stopping solo FFA from becoming a reality, they're the ones playing solo, you slow teams are the problem, there is no suitable mode for your kind of cheap play so you resort to cheating and even having the cheek to ask solo players to leave a mode designed for them

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VictError•

First of all, you actually linked wikipedia for that? LOL.

I'm not going to argue with you about why solo players might choose not to go to party because you will only say "mOrE eXcUsEs"...

But you are actually deluded if you think slow teaming has/requires more skill IN ANY WAY than solo players LOL! Let's see

  • Solo players need to survive on their own. This means that:
    • Teamers can split nearly anytime as long as nobody too big is near and your friend is big enough to eat your cells if there is a threat
    • Soloists, on the other hand, need to make decisions more carefully because they can't just feed another player when they are being chased
    • If the solo player is being chased by somebody bigger, he/she must use actual strategy such as baiting the opponent to a virus, self feeding (and cross splitting), baiting the opponent into an area where they can't easily attack, somehow shooting a virus using one of the solo player's smaller cells etc... the list can go on. (Meanwhile, teamers only need to feed their teammate)
  • Slow teaming is mostly a repetitive process
    • For the most part, slow teaming is just splitting into 16 and taking turns doing that.
    • Solo players must figure out many different ways to eat others
  • Made a mistake?
    • Teamers usually have so many friends that would feed them if they make a mistake with a split, maybe even random helpers
    • Solo players need to make sure their mass estimation is correct
  • Virusing?
    • Teamers have many different teamers to virus opponents for them
    • Solo players need to use their own smaller cells to do virus shots and maybe even trick shots or overlap shots
  • Other strategies/techniques with solo but not with teaming
    • Mini popsplit (I've never seen a FFA teamer do it, ever)
    • Cross splits (again, most FFA teamers probably don't even know this)
    • W-split
    • Milestone split
    • Cell rotation baits/virus shots
    • Push techniques (using smaller cells to push larger one) This is much more sophisticated version of "positioning" than in slow teaming
    • All pop tricks (popsplit, vanish, 90 etc.) are more risky with solo, and vanish tends to be used more by good solo player than by teamers
    • Every bait technique in a much more sophisticated way than with teaming
    • Self feeding, used more with solo players
    • Virus shots/Overlap shots/Trick shots again, used more by solo players with accuracy
    • So many other strategies for fighting teams - rotation splits to escape, strategies for finding opportunities to destroy the team, solo presplits/doublesplits/reverse (higher risk with solo)...

I probably missed many strategies, just watch some solo agar.io videos by people like KadaL, Poizn, NoFear, Fuze, NoMassForYou, I AM LEGEND, FLUFFY, Laseti, TheCrisBR, upsidedown, Inconspicuous Specimen, Myriam and many others on YouTube and hopefully, you will see what I mean...

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VictError•

Slow teaming is an art of patience, diplomacy, and strategy.

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LOL. I died reading this. Thank you for making my day.

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Frandle_Scarlet•

"anti-team" doesn't help soloists anyways

Maybe now you know why I bitch about this to moneyclip about this now?

Also teaming gets boring after a while, while soloing is thrilling and fun. Your opinion doesn't change jack shit. The reasons most of the OGs either solo or quit the game is because soloing in FFA is much more fun than teaming to them. Saying "Teaming is fun" is like saying "DDoSing agar.io servers is fun"; both are opinions. Doing something in a game because "it's fun" doesn't make it fair, but I don't really give a fuck if you do, since you'll still lose to me anyways. ;)

However, saying that solo isn't fun for you, and therefore it shouldn't be fun for anyone else which means they shouldn't play solo because it's not fun for you to solo, is the worst type of logical fallacy I have ever seen from a denizen of planet Earth. I don't care, but you ain't gonna convince anyone that "just team up" is a viable solution to the game's neglect.

None of your links provided any logical backup. ALL of them were arguing to remove FFA teaming, not endorse it. The "teaming is fun" link came from a post that COMPLAINED about teaming in FFA, and if anything, players quitting the game because of teaming should make the logical decision to address the problem and nerf teamplay which has been ironically made nigh-uncounterable because of the outdated anti-team penalty.

The links you provided are basically: Agar.io is a game for teaming because players complain to the neglected game for balance changes. You didn't prove shit other than the fact that you're probably incapable of thinking properly.

I solo in FFA because I have fun doing so. Drop the subject.

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AC_AChillesOP•

I solo in FFA because I have fun doing so.

Not long ago you said Agar is "candidate for the SHITTIEST game in the world" and you're backtracking now, saying it's "thrilling and fun"? Don't make me laugh XD

ALL of them were arguing to remove FFA teaming

Ding ding ding! That's right. Guess where you won't find FFA teaming? Not-FFA a.k.a. Party mode!

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Frandle_Scarlet•

are you fucking retarded? of course you won't find FFA teaming if the game you're playing isn't agar.io FFA. That doesn't fucking justify that slow teaming is remotely fucking moral in any way, shape, or form.

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zYDemian•

There is no "slow-teaming like a pro" because slow teamers are the biggest noobs in the community. i say that as a party mode teamer. if you want to team play on party mode and stop being such a little dumbass

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Frandle_Scarlet•

ah yes, another strawman by the infamous internet troll with the IQ of an iron 4 league of legends player. You ain't convincing any of the OGs to team in FFA, because the only thing your stupidity would cause is people making stereotypes of FFA teamers like you.

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