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Police Arrest Woman Who Threw Bottles Inside Smiths (4th Street Smith's)

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https://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news/police-arrest-woman-who-threw-bottles-at-people-inside-smiths/5518945/

Haha oh man. This is the Smiths by my house so I had to post it. I'm never there for the fun stuff like this. I guess alcoholics everywhere are rising up against Smiths locking up all the liqour behind glass ;(

Haha jk. Good video though, watch the emebded news video on the article because they have decent footage of the incident.

This is odd though because like I said they have all the liqour locked up now at this location... So either she gained access somehow, or they are misreporting and she's just throwing mixers and wine and stuff, or maybe they have some out in the open for some promotion or sale or something.... Idk?

Posted Oct 9, 2019, 1:08 PM UTC · edited

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Rackemup•

The Smiths on Tramway installed the big glass cabinets and kept them always locked for the first month. You had to track down an employee just to buy anything. After the first month they leave them unlocked during the day, but I think they do keep them locked after a certain hour.

After this mess they'll probably start locking them all again. Thanks a lot you psycho-hose-beast.

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OrbitrixOP•

huh, interesting... yea they've kept the 4th street smiths locked 24/7 since they installed them. Its annoying for sure. But 4th Street Smiths was definitely liquor theft central for a while there. I bet the Tramway one isn't quite as bad. You're right, now they'll lock'um for sure :\

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Deckard256•

You haven't Smithed until you've gone to the bougie Smiths in Los Alamos, which is like going into the mirror universe after a stroll through ghetto Smiths.

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Pinkman505•

Did that dude in the stripe shit throw a bottle at her lol?

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OrbitrixOP•

Its hard to tell if it was a giant plastic water bottle, or a glass liquor bottle. The audio on the video report made it sound like yes though: he/she (I honestly can't tell the gender of hardly anyone in this video) did in fact try to stop this person by throwing a glass liquor bottle at them, just like they were throwing them at everyone else lol. Nice username btw B-). can't wait to see El Camino.

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pablo1325•

Looked like an Arrowhead water bottle to me.

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OrbitrixOP•

Yep thats what i thought too. Possibly one that that person had with them before comming into the store

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OrbitrixOP•

Yea my poor elderly father shops there... If this happened while he was there he would have damn near had a heartattack (from his Vietnam PTSD)

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EastTumbleweed•

We call that place Tatty Smiths. Yeah, it's my local too, and by and large nothing happens there. I rate this in there with the fight at John Brooks awhile ago.

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KidKorporate•

No mental health eval?

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OrbitrixOP•

Hmmm yea, I didnt read anything about that happening either.

They mentioned she "doesn't have a history of not showing up to court", so she was released on her own recognizance. I wonder if this implies she has a criminal history, but does show up to court? Or has no history at all, so has never had to? I wonder heh.

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NMHacker•

NMCourts is showing a Crystal Miranda born in 1989 that has a an open container and 2 Child Abuse charges.

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OrbitrixOP•

Ooof. Alcohol is definitely an issue for her then. That much should have probably been obvious though, but good lookin' out brother (or sister)

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EastTumbleweed•

Well, she might try to fight at John Brooks, but guaranteed, they will fight back. That staff doesn't take any shit.

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EastTumbleweed•

In a perfect world, she would have been admitted on a psychiatric hold, as well as had an eval by an endocrinologist, a check-in with a social worker, therapy and rehab. However, the closest thing we have for her is prison, where she probably won't get better and where she probably won't go.

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OrbitrixOP•

Jail/prison... Where, if she does, will get released with even worse habits, coping mechanisms, and street knowledge... Enabling and encouraging her to flesh out her criminal history with an even more colorful array of incidents than she already has :-.

I know its cliché and obvious how little jail and prison have to do with rehabilitation, and infact does quite the opposite when it comes to teaching people to be even more effective and prolific criminals... But it is amazing to me how it continues to be horrible and get worse, while we continue to allow it to happen and watch the meat grinder do its thing.

Sigh. At least some progress is being made in California banning private for profit prisons, and releasing, and even expunging the criminal records of, non-violent drug related offenders

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EastTumbleweed•

That's correct. Because prisons stopped being correctional facilities long ago, and what resources they have an underfunded and not very well run.
In a perfect world, she'd be checked into a residential rehab for as long as it took, years even, paid for by the state, and backed up by the US gov. She'd transition into a supportive community, have job skills, and maintain contacts. Why? Because a healthy, functioning person, who has all their wits about them is better for society in general. It's an investment not only in the individual, but in the places where they live as well.

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[deleted]•

Break one bottle, go to jail. Break 700 bottles, still go to the same jail. Might as well make it worth it. In for a penny, in for a pound.

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OrbitrixOP•

True, but I think the ultimate dollar bill value of those 700 bottles is going to throw her into an entirely different class of Felony. Making it a much worse time for her than just one haha... I guess once you pop (your first liqour bottle) you can't stop!!!

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lckybch•

That’s a woman?!?!

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EastTumbleweed•

Yeah, she looks like she suffers from hypothyroidism, probably along with diabetes and most likely a whopping case of depression. I think her life has probably been one long WTF, but that day it was like, WTF WTF WTF. I hate to think about her life -I think it's probably been pretty rough.

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OrbitrixOP•

Haha aaahhh.... Yes indeed. I feel bad poking fun, but my Father said the same thing when i showed him the video lol

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mapod•

In the ghetto......

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OrbitrixOP•

You're not totally wrong (this Smiths is in somewhat of a ghetto area, and Smiths in general all tend to be just a little bit ghetto in the Burque). But it isn't what most locals would call the "Ghetto Smiths" (That title is reserved specifically for the one on Coal and Yale by the University).

Oddly enough though, this 4th street Smiths from the story probably services some of the richer residents of Albuquerque though, being part of "The Village of Los Ranchos de Albuquerque", and not technically just "Albuquerque". Right by the North Valley, all the Wineries, Casa Rodena, Los Poblanos, Tinnin Farms, etc. All those rich ass people definitely go to this Smiths when they can't be arsed to drive to Costco or Whole Foods.

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GreySoulx•

I wouldn't call this smiths ghetto at all. It was among the first to have their major redesign work done, to start carrying more natural/organic produce to compete with Wholefoods and Sprouts...

(btw, what happened to the proposed wholefoods on the corner of 4th and Osuna?)

I agree there's a bit of an economically diverse community in the area. But that's pretty typical of the North valley; million dollar homes next door to a 40 year old derelict mobile homes. The "North Fourth" corridor just doesn't experience the levels of vagrancy and crime you get a couple miles south on Fourth or anywhere near what you have near the real Ghetto Smiths.

Every time I've been in there you don't see zombies in the parking lot, they tend to congregate briefly at the bus stop by the Nusenda, but even that's not really a hang out.

The most ghetto thing in the area is the on again - off again bar across the street and the apartments (Sage Canyon) and even the apartments have improved significantly in the last few years.

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OrbitrixOP•

Yea i kno what you are saying, the 4th Street Smiths has definitely been getting remodeling love even lately.

But still, compare it to the one on the west side off Paseo for example .. it still seems .. less than ideal. The west side Smiths almost feels as nice as a Whole Foods.

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katowash44•

I have shopped at this Smith's for as long as I can remember (I am 30) and never had any problems here.

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EastTumbleweed•

I've heard the Ghetto Smith's also called Stabby Smiths. We've started calling this one "Tatty Smiths" after the preponderance of tattoos. It's my local, and you're right, it's not in the best area and I've seen plenty of drug deals there as well.

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OrbitrixOP•

Yea, I never fail to see homeless people posted up in the shade of the east side wall of the 4th street Smiths. Tatty Smiths lol, i'll remember that... definitely do see plenty of tats and bikers there.

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EastTumbleweed•

Yup, definitely Tatty Smiths. That area never fails to surprise. I'm a John Brooks person myself. I like knowing the checkers will fight back if I'm ever need help.

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LibraryLass•

It's weird, 'cause I lived in Santa Fe for a couple years and the Smiths up there are both pretty nice.

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OrbitrixOP•

Yea I've noticed that too, I think the Santa Fe ones are definitely newer. West Side Albuquerque and Rio Rancho have some nicer ones now... but all the ones in actual east side Albuquerque are just all really really old buildings. They are finally remodelling them though (including the one from this story, part of the re-model being all the liquor winding up behind lock and key glass.) Be even the 'nicer' ones still have a tinge of ghetto to them, just from how old the actual buildings are.

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EastTumbleweed•

Yeah, but Santa Fe isn't north 4th!

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LibraryLass•

And now I live on north Fourth and honestly it's nowhere near as bad as I had always heard. I mean it's shitty, but more or less in the way most places I've lived are.

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KullWahad•

Not really.

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