So I occasionally check in on this sub, less and less because it's been going steadily down hill for years. But this time it seems we've gone all the way, other than a few downvoted comments here and there, I see basically nothing remotely libertarian. Have all the libertarians finally given up on this place?
Posted Oct 11, 2019, 9:42 PM UTC
It doesn't really matter.
This sub is one of the last places to actually openly debate opposing views. My best discussions here are typically with the left wing posters.
My experience has been very different.
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I'm not seeing a lot of discussion though, I'm mostly seeing tired overly simplistic partisan talking points. And that's sort of ok if it's libertarian points like "taxes are theft" etc, but it seems to be the minority.
I'm banned from nearly all the political subs except for this one, apparently wrong-think is an unwritten rule on most subs.
Perhaps it will create some new libertarians when those who come here for debate realize that they really prefer to be in a place where everyone has freedom, rather than the echo chamber everyone would be in if their side or the other ever completely got their way.
We are here just out numbered. It's fine. The trolls have over taken the real accounts and T_D has been quarantined so they are here along with the chapo people. The mods stil have THE BIG GAYE and are libertarians for the most part.
I thought the head mod was one of the chapo people?
No head mod is non existent one mod is chapo
Yeah but didn't head mod give him the most power?
Maybe because you have like 19 year old socialists posting bs. So yeah
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I’ve always used YouTube for news and discussion but decided to come to reddit recently. The media is always saying reddit is some conservative echo chamber but everything seems very liberal biased. This subreddit isn’t so bad but I post one moderate opinion in the news sub and get completely shit on.
Oh r/news, r/politcalhumour, and r/politics are left wing subs, but there are a lot of conservatives on reddit still.
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Yes they do, but that is somewhat due to their broad sounding titles, I’m sure not everyone is active. Also r/conservative bans many people, it is not an open discussion sub, the left news politics subs just let the hive mind downvote you. Also generally younger people have more progressive and liberal views than older people and younger people are more involved in social media so if it was a random sample of people with reddit accounts you find a higher percentage to hold liberal views.
But don’t all of those subs have way more members than this r/libertarian or r/conservative types subs?
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Look in unpopular opinion for social conservatives.
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Yeah I think if a sub isn't inherently conservative it will turn left eventually. Probably because the average Reddit poster doesn't understand much about life yet. Because they skew young and/or are immature.
I am here.
there's dozens of us!
I don’t know man I’m a pretty libertarian democrat. I like just hearing other opinions and talking with different people to avoid an echo chamber. The people on this sub are a little more reasonable and polite towards opposing views than some of the other subs. I’ve noticed some standard Facebook mom memes here and there but for the most part it’s just a slow burn compared to r/the_donald where it’s shitposts every few minutes.
I love these threads, I usually have to read them for a bit to figure out if the OP is pissy about the redhat trump crowd or the democratic centrists.
Considering how often this thread gets repeated, I would say we doing ok.
I’m willing to talk to anyone as long as they don’t just go straight to name calling and they can try to understand why I believe what I believe and I try to understand and sometimes my mind even changes America’s biggest problem is we don’t have compromises
Or, I mean, you could contribute?
Like it or not, if not for non-libertarians, there would be a half dozen posters here, and this place would be wall to wall memes, with no substantive discussion.
Yeah but I have better things to do than argue with partisan idiots. There are plenty of issues libertarians could be discussing, but it's sure not happening here.
Sounds like a market failure. Shame about that.
Sounds like you have no clue what a market is.
Hi 👋
Respect to the og from 169 days ago.
Yes, clearly I could never have looked at this sub before creating this particular account.
i stay mainly to troll the leftists that took over, and direct people to r/goldandblack if they have a genuine question, but yeah the sub is pretty much dead for libertarians
I'll have to check that place out.
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It’s just trump communists vs Bernie communists now. A bunch of human trash debating how to rape the world
Yes. It was essentially infiltrated by disenfranchised democrats (which is fine -- leaving the left is a good thing) who then proceed to lecture and teach everyone what the proper libertarian opinions are. i.e. complain about Trump and Republicans.
Yep pretty much
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Yep. I tried to argue for free markets in healthcare today and was downvoted. I got the typical "oh yeah let the market handle it and let the poor die amiright"
This but unironically