They Called Me A Madman For Putting A Floppy Drive in My PC Build. Look At Me Now!!!

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They Called Me A Madman For Putting A Floppy Drive in My PC Build. Look At Me Now!!!

Posted Oct 16, 2019, 6:30 PM UTC

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rube•

Inserts disk 1

"Drive read error."

Fuck.

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Scalytor•

That happened to my Doom and Doom 2 floppy disks back in the 90s. Any time I think about floppies I remember the CRC errors from those disks and I am not nostalgic. I'm glad the shareware Quake CD included the installers for every id game up to that point and I never had to worry about the floppies again.

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LeCrushinator•

First thing I did after installing the game was to copy all of the disks, then I would use the copy from then on. Originals got put into a disk box to hopefully never be needed again.

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Maxanisi•

Hey man, don't copy that flopy.

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Shippoyasha•

Disc read issues plagues even modern CD and DVD systems too. Even occasionally Nintendo Switch game cards can have reading issues.

I love the feel of owning games physically but digital tends to be more reliable and worry free. Especially now you can put them into more sturdy formats like flash drives or SSDs.

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_SEGA•

Shut your whore mouth you lazy boomer. Physical forever

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RolandMT32•

I remember that Quake CD. I heard someone discovered the full versions of all the games on that disc were unlockable, and there was a set of keys released.

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Scalytor•

Yeah, it had everything from Wolfenstein 3D all the way up to Quake itself. A key generator was created and you could unlock everything.

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euphraties247•

It's the Quake Shareware CD-ROM. It has the audio track as well!

Oh and crack the games with qcrack.

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3-cheese•

Same. The last disk of our Doom II install would get errors most of the time. To Hell with that. Pun intended.

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junkit33•

The sad reality is that 3.5" floppies haven't held up well at all. Especially the cheaper ones that generally were mass distributed on games to keep costs down. And yeah - of course we got those all the time even on brand new disks.

It varies too wildly to predict, but I'd guess there's no better than a 50% chance that all five of these disks still work well enough to install the game.

Ironically, the 5.25" floppies are way more reliable and have supposedly withstood the test of time much better.

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mgzukowski•

I honestly think that's why there is a big difference between retro computer collectors and console.

Console collectors give a damn about original non repro games. Computer collectors are more about tricking out the Machine and modding it.

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dexter311•

As a big box PC collector, it's more about the nostalgia of the packaging, the artwork and the contents than the data on the floppies/CDs. Because in most cases you can just go to GOG or Steam and buy the game for less than €5 anyway.

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JoshuaPearce•

I'm both kinds of collector.

It's different for console games because the hardware they ran on was a much bigger factor, since there was only one version of it. Computer games were designed to run on a broad variety of configurations, so you're still getting the exact same game when you don't use "original" hardware. Consoles are a lot more finicky, it's virtually impossible to replicate them (bugs and all) with anywhere close to 100% accuracy.

It's not a "don't give a damn" situation, that makes it sound like emulators or modern reproductions aren't objectively different. Also, it doesn't help that physical reproductions made now will be manufactured as cheaply as possible, and will virtually always be less reliable. That's not an issue with duplicated computer software, or using modern storage mediums.

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Computer games were designed to run on a broad variety of configurations, so you're still getting the exact same game when you don't use "original" hardware.

Laughs in C64, All the configurations were nearly identical from a coding standpoint, but the user experience was all over the damn place. NTSC vs PAL region wouldn't break games most of the time but it'd be unplayably fast or boringly slow if you played the wrong region's game, since CPU speed was tied to the horizontal sync rate. Composite NTSC vs Composite PAL vs S-Video vs SCART was another issue, color reproduction was different on all of them and some games looked better over composite because of dithering while others looked better in S-Video or SCART because they used hires graphics.

And then there's how temperamental the SID is, it never sounded the same twice - every revision was different, every chip had slightly different internal resistances that screwed with the filtering, some could play PCM samples through a hack and some couldn't, and samples never played at the same volume between machines. The filtering was also effected by the impedance of your system so passive speakers sounded different than headphones, which sounded different than a TV connected via RF, which sounded different from a stereo amp, etc. It was even effected by how noisy your house power was, often times the sound would change if you plugged it in a different circuit than the TV or borrowed a friend's power brick.

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GlennMagusHarvey:snes2:•

Now I'm regretting getting rid of that stack of 5.25" floppies when moving.

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danmanx•

Yes my Doom 2 disks are not looking so good.

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555RGNE•

Yeah I don't think I have a single disk that still works.

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littleking_1•

A true madman would install a 5,25” floppy drive.

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chickennroll:fds:•

Nahh, 8-inch.

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amplegamer•

12 inch Laserdisc or nothing!

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amplegamer•

Mind officially blown. Doom_explosion.wav

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HappyEngineer•

So would that be read using the same input used with a tape (cassette) drive? I've heard that you can play mp3 files of c64 games into the tape drive input, but I've never tried to figure out how.

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RolandMT32•

Vinyl-ROM

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RolandMT32•

Was software even distributed on laserdisc?

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greenmky•

Dualie for the win....I had one of them up until like 2010 or so. 5.25" and 3.5" in one bay.

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rube•

I have a package of blank 5.25" disks on my desk, unopened.

When the apocalypse hits, I'm prepared. As long as I'm at work at the time.

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Absolute madlad

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Sabin10•

32 kilobytes a second off a floppy or 32 megabytes per second off steam. There are a lot of things that I am nostalgic about, floppies aren't one of them.

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RolandMT32•

Sometimes I feel nostalgic about the type of software that came on floppies. I remember my set of After Dark screensaver floppies with the flying toasters on them, for instance. Or the fact that software was a lot smaller back then. Windows 3.1 came on 7 or 8 floppies, if I remember right, and those were 3.5" 1.44mb floppies, so it would have been about 20MB or so for the Windows 3.1 installation files?

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Sabin10•

I was nostalgic for the old dose games back around last Christmas so I grabbed the exodos set. All the games, none of the inconvenience.

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euphraties247•

I recently bought NT 3.5 on floppy disks. It took well over an hour to rip the thing. The only thing more painful than installing NT from floppy was installing MS Office. I swear between the two it'd be close to 100 disks.

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supergodmasterforce:sega3:•

Just when they thought you were out....you pull them back in.

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majikill•

do a tape drive! do a tape drive!

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iVirtualZero•

Well you are a madman if you put a floppy drive in a modern pc.

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-timaeus-•

I’m not sure Windows 10 supports it unless it’s a USB floppy drive. I need answers lol

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Neutral_Meat•

I have a 3.5 drive sitting in my desktop, but I haven't had a mother board that it could connect to since 2003.

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odsquad64•

My Windows 10 PC has a non-USB floppy drive in it, though I admit I haven't used it since I upgraded from Windows 7. I might have to go dig out a floppy disk and see if it still works. The drive makes noise and the light flashes on its own sometimes.

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RolandMT32•

I've used a USB floppy drive with Windows 10

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uselessDM•

Guess your project was Doomed from the start, eh?

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ldmtwo•

If you’re feeling floppy, how about Oregon trail?

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There was a guide?! I wonder how it is inside. Does it says something about the secret room in lvl 6 (watch me die?) Don't remember the name. But I remember there was a secret room you can only enter if you had the "idclip" cheat to cross walls. Never knew what was a deal of that room.

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[deleted]•

that caught my eye too. im still looking for a pdf but i found this that gives a brief rundown Doom Guide

sounds like it was just a standard guide. it had maps so I'm guessing secret rooms would be marked.

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benryves•

MAP06 (The Crusher) doesn't have a hidden room like that as far as I'm aware, but MAP07 (Dead Simple) does - is that what you're referring to?

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My bad, it is Dead simple. Sorry.

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robot2642:win:•

Awesome

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Spocks_Goatee•

I want that box so bad, all I have are unofficial expansion pack boxes.

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DestronAptom•

Daaaaaaamn son

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Shock_Wave16•

Man, that brings back some great memories, thanks for sharing!

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yelahneb•

Mad like a FOX

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amertune•

Funny, because we all thought that Steve Jobs was a madman for not including a floppy drive in 1998.

And then proceeded to never really use floppy drives again, even though we kept putting them in our computers for several more years.

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eternalthree•

I put a br reader into my recently acquired macbook pro 2011. So kinda the opposite of your situation. But pretty useful for watching all the br I get from the library and for ripping movies for later

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mjohn153•

This does put a smile on my face.

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Bing_Bang_Bam•

Check And Mate.

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Kitakitakita•

Now you're a Madlad with Doom II

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