There's some drama going on in other platforms so I was curious what everyone's thoughts on here was. I imagine there are some scenarios where saying it could cause social harm, but I'm also not sure we should be dictating what they can do in private (even though we already do that to some extent if it's illegal or some shit)
Posted Oct 25, 2019, 6:39 AM UTC
I don't say it in public. I don't say it in private. It doesn't occur to me to say or use it, so it's not a self-censoring thing. It's funny when Cumtown dances around it, but most people aren't as funny as the cum boys. I'm certainly not
if an n-bomb drops in private and nobody is around to hear it, does it still make a racism?
if you say nigger in a derogatory sense towards a black individual, barring singing along to a song or making a direct quote, you’re probably a racist piece of shit.
if you say nigger to demean someone else regardless of race, you probably aren’t racist really, but you’re still a piece of shit.
you’re probably a racist piece of shit.
So much for the "tolerant left"
What if you're talking to racists and emphasize your point by pointing out that they're acting just like they think ----- act?
Well, I know within the neo-Nazi scene they tend to divide themselves into "wignats" and "civnats" -- literally "wigger nationalists" in the first case, which I think was originally a slur directed at "white trash" boneheads who give the other ones a bad image but was also adopted by the latter as a point of pride about not hiding who they are and so on because they don't have a career to lose. Seems largely about class. I don't know why the left should play these same games.
Same reason I don't like these subs like r/beholdthemasterrace which is just a bunch of Reddit liberals making fun of the toothless rednecks.
Ya, people like spencer and the people who live in trailers are still separated by classes. The idpol they use is to actually put up an elaborate illusion.
Yeah I very much agree, but because they have no class analysis they sublimate the debate into arguing over "optics." I think for awhile the Spencer types who come from money and class figured they could use the Heimbach trailer types as muscle, but the thing with the trailer types is that there's a limit to the extent they'll let themselves be used as pawns for some bored rich kid's entertainment because being a fascist is exciting and dangerous (but not too dangerous!!!).
the context is what matters.
if you’re using the word to insult someone then well personally you can make you’re own judgment, but as a white person no one has ever tried to insult me by calling me a nigger
like i get it free speech an all, but everyone knows the context of the word, given america’s culture maybe you’re not racist for using it but like why use it? there’s better ways to trash talk.
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I'm not sure what the question is getting at...
Should one be "allowed" to say it in private (i.e., should there be no penalties for saying it)? (yes)
Is it harmless to say it in private? (sure, no one is being offended)
If you can't stop saying it (in a racist and/or edgelord way), might there be something wrong with you? (yes)
exactly, words are words, it’s the context that matters
The only correct time to drop a Hard R is in private, alone, when you’ve stubbed your toe or when you’ve dropped Chinese food down your white shirt.
"Freedom is the freedom to say 'nigger'. If that is allowed, all else will follow."
This sub. Jesus. No one is telling you what you're allowed to think. If you say something, you have to be prepared to own it, and that applies even to your most private conversations. What is this stupidity, you need someone to give you permission to say nigger? What a fucking cowardly and infantile take.
Go for it, but it better be funny. Nothing unfunnier than an n-bomb joke not getting a laugh.
But overall, conceptually, i think it's an all or nothing type thing. You can't have it be this powerful word that no one should say, while simultaneously treating it like an irreverent joking phrase among the general black community. Either it's a relic of our bigoted past only used by racists, or it's been reclaimed by the passage of time and nature of language to be used for good and camaraderie for all (that white people still by and large avoid because of the implication, but so it's not some career ending sleight in and of itself, the context being the deciding factor there).
I agree more with the guys who still call themselves 'Negro' and beat the shit out of their grandkids for calling their friends nigga, those who refuse and are angered by it's usage in any context than i do the "WORDS ARE L I T E R A L L Y VIOLENCE!"/"THATS 'OUR' WORD!" chucklefucks.
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You know, there is probably a sizable population with a huge n-word fetish. They'll chant the offending word over and over as they stroke themselves to a climax. Then they take a shower and log on to Twitter to rant how racist water is to alleviate their guilt.
It's the third law of sexual dynamics, there's a fetish for every tabu.
Not my culture so why would I feel the need to use it.
lol same here. it's so funny and baffling to see how obsessed white americans are with this word, like it's some kind of forbidden fruit.
That's probably a major factor as to why it's never going to go away. The N-Word is probably the USA's biggest cultural Taboo, and transgressing Taboos is always going to be funny to someone. Advocating against it is also a multi-million dollar business, so there is 0 incentive on either side to back down.
I'd bet most people under 30 have no fucking clue what a Mooncricket or Sambo is, or that Mexicans used to be called Greasers, because none of those terms rose to the same Cultural Taboo as the N-word.
I'm old enough to remember eating at a Sambo's (chain of restaurants, like Denny's)..."mooncrickets" is a new one for me, though. Sounds kind of cute, but after looking it up...not so cute.
You could change that for a million other different slurs that have come and gone out of the cultural lexicon as the people who used them died off. Honestly a lot of older slurs are pretty hilarious when divorced from their context. Getting called a 'Wagon Burner' as a Native American cracked me up for days when i finally put 2 and 2 together and figured out it was supposed to be a racial slur rather than generic boomer ramblings.
Not a gamer I assume
Video games and video game drama is for dorks, don't get it twisted.
I don't self-censor, and certainly not in private. There's no way to convince woketards on the issue though.
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Too tired for this shit. I prefer you didnt, but with the threatening death of the planet I dont really muster much anger
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We only have a handful of black people around here, so it simply doesn't come up.
I still remember how some musician got triggered by this, though.
If I'm at home and listening to some good music you bet I will sing along without hesitation. I am very passionate about the music that I like. Occasionally I will use it sardonically on the internet if the context is such that everyone understands it's in good nature ('water niggas' etc). Any other situation and I always avoid the word or say 'n-word'.
I think libs have this really weird bordering on religious taboo about even saying the sounds out loud though.
I don't really see the problem with it if it doesn't have an effect on anyone else like in public generally speaking.
“nigger” has an almost mystical power at this point. we have place enough cultural importance in it that breaking it is a powerful act of taboo. it is so singular and powerful that the taboo has transferred even to referring to it as the “n word” in a way that is playful or non-reverential.
it stands alone, a sort of idpol tetragrammaton. it need not even be referred to as all references point back to it. if i said “i’m going to say it,” anyone would know what i mean. thus indicators that point towards it will become ever less specific and more ambiguous. the jews had yhvh, adonai, and eventually hashem (literally “the name”). we have the ineffable “nigger,” but also the n-word, the word, just plain “it”. saying it means nothing because even in not saying it we eternally refer to it, making it conspicuous in its absence.
LMFAO is this a cumtown bit?
Take a look at his comment history. It's just e-celebs and internet drama. 0% politics.