Californian Dashers
I ain't joining shit nor supporting any crap until DD revert to the old tip suggestions.
Posted Oct 29, 2019, 9:14 PM UTC
1134
Funny stuff. They have so many people worried that they will be fucked by their local governments while they fuck over their own drivers. Doordash will take a major hit just from taxes and then they would have to provide decent pay to keep drivers from moving to a better company.
5
Man I don't really care about all the details, since the NPM was going well with me, but god damn they messing with tips again.
6
anyone feel like joining the coalition of drivers just to tell them not to accept DoorDash's shit offers?
5
Already there, my man. But quite willing to help convince others. If for no other reason but to spite the shills infesting our ranks.
2
I know some drivers hate AB5, but these companies who pay dirt shit are just trying to avoid paying “labor costs” - taxes & benefits.
I won’t be surprise if this measure for Nov 2020 will have some loophole where the drivers get fucked. i mean drivers still get fucked cuz we pay for the taxes in the end.
Just like Tony is fucking Dashers with inaccurate amounts for base pay after it was one of the NPM highlight.
4
If Door Dash and their mindless shills hate it, it's a good thing. I wish it was legal to print this email out and send it back with dog feces. But it's not legal so I won't. What would be legal to send to Tony Xu that he will hate to receive?
Also: God dammit, I hate people who defend DD. There's a tree out there working hard to provide these people with oxygen and I feel sorry for that tree.
3
This bill is a double edge sword, it hurts both doordash and dashers. If DD hates it that means less pay/no work for Californian dashers. So I don't support the bill nor I support DD.
0
They're already cutting pay for us Dashers. $2 base pay and now a cap on customer tips? It's getting to the point that, even with tips, you will lose money on every dash. With a forced minimum wage, even if they cut your hours to FIVE HOURS a week you are still making more money per delivery because now your gasoline is reimbursed by law and you're not paying 100% FICA taxes anymore. Even the deductions don't blunt that advantage.
2
I get what you're saying but do you know how Worker's Unions drove out businesses? Unions demanded too much and too many benefits, increasing costs of business operations. Which led to outsourcing to Asia, massive loss of jobs for Americans and recession.
0
Bullshit, even non unionized workplaces moved to Asia.
It's amazing how many working class people are calling out to be paid less. How pathetic.
0
$18 an hour plus tips and an increase for gas isnt bad as long as they dont make it an impossible requirement and purposefully send outlandish orders to make sure you dont obtain it. An example is sending an order to a restaurant on the opposite end of town when theirs one right by you and then delivering right where you came from right at the end of the block.
2
Why would they do that if they are paying by the hour + mileage?
1
Grubhub had guaranteed minimums as well and that's exactly what happened to me all the time, but they werent paying mileage. The same way it only applied if you were on block so they could just lower the amount of blocks available so more drivers are forced to deliver off block with no guarantee. I'm just saying if theirs a way for them to cut their costs on our pay they will do it, the devil's in the details.
3
yes, the details do matter. For example on that site's "fact sheet" it states that drivers would always earn at least 120% of minimum wage (assuming they mean the minimum wage for companies that have over 25 employees). But that is just an internet document, not the actual proposed bill. I think a lot of people will take trust into consideration. For me, Doordash ranks (on a scale from 1 to 10) about a negative 3
2
Hey guys customers tips didnt matter remember. 😂😂 now we get 3$ tips for 80$ orders. So a 7-8$ offer we get. Fuck that. 15% 20% 25% 30% with the driver in mind. Big middle finger to the people who keep this shit going.
2
REEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeEEEEE
1
Agreed. I have seen a dramatic difference since they changed it.