I'm an average looking male. Should I just embrace my inner asshole when around women?

A woman who was sort of friendzoning me (despite me saying I wanted to go out), finally went out with me -- after I ignored her. I had ignored her for the day, rather than messaging her, and then she sent me a message asking to go out with me that very night.

I spent the date treating her like shit, acting like a total asshole, and she seems more into me now. There could potentially be another date very soon.

There's so many blackpillscience threads on how women prefer jerks, guys with narcissism, etc... but I always put it down to those guys were probably good looking anyway, so their personality was irrelevant.

For example, if a balding manlet was a "jerk", girls wouldn't want to fuck him. However, since I'm average height and of average (maybe slightly above average?) looks, is it worth embracing my inner jerk around women I want to date? Maybe it could be the few extra points I need.

Even if it doesn't get me laid, at least I'd be respecting myself for not being a simp towards them. Has anyone tried this personality change, and how'd it work for you?

Posted Oct 30, 2019, 1:35 PM UTC · edited

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FiteMeNow•

Yes it will help you get laid, but it's counter intuitive to a relationship. You won't be able to hold the act forever, and besides being an asshole guy isn't a good foundation for a healthy relationship anyways.

However, the sexual experience that you will achieve through getting laid from your assholery will put you in a better position down the line for a relationship.

So basically the answer is yes, be the asshole. At least for now. It is always easier to reform yourself from a chaotic alpha to an ordered alpha than it is to go from a ordered beta to an ordered alpha. Keep this potent red pill in mind. You might not understand it now, but you will later.

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MetaMetaSinManOP•

Nice. And the good part is it isn't really an act. It felt really freeing saying everything I meant on that date. I even called her a bitch a few times.

I like that part about going from chaotic to ordered alpha. Great point.

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Did you get a second date?

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byrnes-Mac•

You aren’t an alpha if you are having to put effort into this. An alpha does it naturally and doesent think twice.

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Dela65•

What do you mean be the asshole? Say you’re on a date with someone you like. What makes a person an asshole/jerk? Insulting her?

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FiteMeNow•

Caring for yourself first before caring for her, primarily.

Insulting her? Subtly, yes. If you go too hard she won't like it unless she's a seriously mentally ill girl with childhood issues. But avoid these women, even if you're just out for the the sex that can be a very risky endeavour.

If you can insult them with a smile that would be ideal. And do it a few times and they won't know if you are truly being serious or not, which 1) shows that you don't take them too seriously which signals that you are more important than them and 2) adds to the "mysterious" vibes that gives them the tingles.

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LeanLoner•

I did this with a hot gym receptionist once and she quit her job the next day. Back to being nice I guess. rip.

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Theemulators•

Yeah, what is the difference between "acting like an asshole" and "acting confident" when on a date with a girl?

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estusflaskplus5•

just darktriadmaxx bro

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69_year_old_virgin•

Do whatever you need to do to get some bro. Don’t end up like me

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engiraba•

69 nice

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SupremeGentleman92•

She was probably shit testing u to see how far she can get away with cucking u. Now that she sees u ain’t falling for her bullshit, she’s cashing in her chips before she loses u completely. I’d say make ur move now if u want a future with this chick, otherwise she’s just gonna keep playing more games until she gets bored. If a woman only likes u when ur an asshole, chances are she’s just fling material.

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Imo its best to find a personal balance between the two.

Being a beta will never get you any attention and honestly it seems fake for most (too afraid to be honest), while being too much of an asshole might not get you a happy fulfilling longterm relationship.

I m a bit tall, probably 3-4/10 face, with muscular build. Last semester one girl was into me and made hints but after I was shy and never made a move she stopped and eventually got together with someone else.

He was a total ass and she broke up with him ... I didnt immediatly know or care, which was the best thing I could have ever done. In the meantime I had fun interacting with other girls and see my chances. Still a bit shy around her but its going much better than anything ever before.

I think its a combination of being confident, cocky and asshole-ish if it fits to your character and the situation. You cant just be fake or rude for no reason and being nice is important when together.

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Shadows1455•

Checkout r/theredpill bro they share a lot of advice about how to act like an asshole without actually being one

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MetaMetaSinManOP•

I am an asshole though. It's easier for me to be a jerk. So I should be okay.

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Goldenbear81•

Absolutely not. If it was your "inner" anything you'd already be doing it. You are approaching the problem all wrong. And I can see by your post you are doing the absolute dumbest thing possible: Worrying about whether a specific girl likes you. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

There is no such thing as an "average" looking male. Women have "types" and chances are you fit one. But even within a type, quality matters. Work out. Dress well. Be successful. Get exposure. Get out. Meet people. Join a club. Join a sports team. Hit the bars hard Friday and Saturday. Send out 20 dating site introductions per night.

Fake plain confidence, not assholery. Chances are you have no clue how to act like a cocky asshole. You will just come across as an immature, insecure asshole. Just forget it.

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