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bxxgeyman•

the reason Orisa is meta is because she has a better chance than the other tanks against the overtuned power creeped DPS that are currently meta, aka Doomfist Reaper and Mei.

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dngrsshang9•

just rework the roles and split Tanks into MTs and OTs so you can only have 1 of rein/orisa/winston/sigma

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SunnyBloop•

This would further limit players, unless the hero roster (specifically for tanks and supports) was massively expanded.

As an example:

If your running Dive, as a main tank, your options are Winston/Ball, and offtank its Dva (or Ball, depends how you class him). For Bunker? Your forced into picking Hog if your teammate goes Orisa. Your options are so limited right now that further splitting forced 2-2-2 into main and off roles is insanity.

The main reason Double Barrier is still strong is because Blizzard gutted the only hero who directly benefits from having multiple shields present. If Sym wasn't nerfed, players would be using her to deal with Double Barrier, and thus, you could switch to Dive to deal with that.

Sigma existing is the major reason Double Shield works - He's everything Rein is, but with more utility and a shield that's stupidly easy to abuse in order to create space. I'd go as far to say Orisa is pretty fine right now, and she's not the issue here.

Sigma's kit is far too overloaded (and, much like Brig and Mercy, will never be in a state of balance, period), and Blizzard nerfed the one hero that directly counters multiple shields. That's the issue here.

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dngrsshang9•

Sigma's kit is far too overloaded

only if he slots as an OT

which is why I was thinking of tank role splits

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SunnyBloop•

^^ The problem is, you can't really force players to not take a hero designed as a main tank into an off tank role, so either they need to hard gut him, or buff heroes that work well at breaking shields (This comes with its own issues, since we already have tonnes of damage creep).

I'd have personally liked to see how pre-nerf Sym dealt with the nerfed Orisa/Sigma, just to see if that would've prompted a shift to Dive, since Dive is in a decent spot right now, and Dive naturally counters Sym, even WITH her being inside a Double Barrier comp.

We simply need more options at this point.. But the worry is, the more heroes Blizzard adds, the more overloaded their kits are going to be, and the more issues that'll add. So it's a double edged sword unfortunately..

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*you’re

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