Why the Ravens Have the Best Offense in the NFL | Baldy Breakdowns
Posted Nov 5, 2019, 11:05 PM UTC
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Bizarro world
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The highest scoring offense in the NFL (Points per game and points per possession).
2nd in ypg
4th via DVOA
Everyone in here completely dismissing this take is completely ignoring data. Is it debatable? Yes, but there is a debate.
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The thing is, we are not very explosive. Our mediocore passing game is only working because people expect us to run on every down. If we were down by 7 with 1:40 left and 75 yards to go, I doubt we would get anything going because our run heavy, time eating offense is not build for this. We are great when we are in a close game with enough time on the clock, that's what this offense is build for and it works, but i don't think that this makes us the best offense in the league
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Yeah my guy I'm going to go with data and not conjecture...
Unless you have some data to back up your point...
The Chiefs with a healthy Mahomes and Tyreek is the best offense in the league I'll concede that but...not because your reasoning.
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I disagree. We definetely can be explosive. Hollywood and Mark Andrews come to mind from the receiver position.
Also, LJ is more then explosive with his legs and makes many big runs when scrambling.
Explosive doesn’t have to be 60 yard bombs.
15+ yard consistent chunk plays can make an offense plenty explosive.
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Alternate title: how building your defense light to stop the pass can bite you in the ass when an O line can shove you around.
O line real MVP.
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You ain’t kiddin. That oline was smoking the patriots front 7.
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Dude yandas a beast still, I swear that man has surpassed Ogden as a raven. That’ll get me shit but he’s been amazing his whole career.
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Woah now. Yanda is great, Ogden is legendary. Yanda crushes people and imposes his will on the inside, but a 7ft immovable wall with quick feet and hands isn't just something that happens.
Ogden was an absolute titan of a man.
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I know ogdens one of a kind from statue alone. But yanda has been the forefront of the ravens offensive runs and pass blocking for his 12 years now and hasn’t slowed down.
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We live in strange days, my friends.
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Honestly, this is to be expected, right? As the NFL started to shift towards the pass attack du jour, defenses fell in suit and primed themselves for teams with a monstrous rushing attack to destroy them. I guarantee that next year you will see people try to replicate the Ravens success and in a few years when defenses are built up to prevent it there will be some gunslinger that will come in to carve everyone up like Thanksgiving turkeys and start the whole cycle again.
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The shift doesn't happen that quick.
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5-6 years isn’t enough, exasterbated by the uptick/decline in talent at particular positions?
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We've been talking about teams exploiting lighter linebackers for almost a decade now. It's just now starting with the Ravens. It took the league almost two decades to shift from a run first league to the pass heavy league it is today.
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As a Ravens fan who is used to seeing my team be virtually ignored by the media as long as I can remember, this feels weird. Can we go back to winning in silence while everyone talks about how many Super Bowls the Browns are going to win this year?
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It’s interesting watching the Ravens because I see many similarities to the Niners offense when Roman ran it. Makes me wonder if the rumors that Roman was being held back by Harbaugh are true.
It also makes me think about what could’ve been.
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Same with the Bills to an extent. Passing was a problem but we were a great rushing team while he was the OC back in 2015-2016
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The difference for the Ravens is that Lamar Jackson is a better passer than Tyrod Taylor and Colin Kaepernick while also being better in the run game. The Ravens also have better coaching in general and Roman is probably a better coach by now.
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I was talking about Jim Harbaugh holding back Roman when he was the Niners OC.
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I know lol it was a joke, but I'll admit not a great one
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Gotcha. Went right over my head.
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Do I think this is a true, great NFL offense? No. But right now, it absolutely can be.
Harbaugh has a very unique talent on his hands and has done an absolutely brilliant job utilizing him. He’s recognized and exposed ebbs and flows in the league, and it’s really impressive to watch. (Something Belichick is known to do often).
The Ravens dominated the time of possession last week because the Pats are a team with a great defense built to stop...NFL offenses; the pass.
And while the Ravens can pass, it’s not what makes their offense special. It’s their ability to run from a number of outlets. It was no surprise at all how they would attack the patriots and still, they absolutely abused the linebackers, lining up the entire game out of the pistol. (Sometimes with 4 personnel in the backfield and 1 in motion). The pats had no answer.
I don’t care what people say about “the stops we made in the 2nd and 3rd”. We weren’t ever going to last 4 quarters of that abuse. I’ve never seen Hightower look red. His face was fucking red. It was wild to see, and I’ll never again second guess his heart.
The Ravens have something special here, and it will be a lot of fun to watch. However, as a fan of the sport, I feel like we’re all quietly holding our breath waiting for that inevitable injury that time has proven to be true over and over again, once the QB tucks the ball and runs. (Knocking on wood for the kid).
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Needs more buzzwords like ebbs and flows then it'll be perfect for a blog
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Great input, man.
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We're only halfway through the season, but our points per drive scored (2.95) is higher than any year of the Greatest show on turf and than Manning's 04 Colts. It's right up there with the 10 Pats, 11 GB and NO, 13 Broncos, and 16 Falcons.
Top 3 are:
- 07 Pats 3.37
- 18 Chiefs 3.25
- 18 Saints 3.21
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I don’t think you could stop them even if you had their playbook.
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Didn’t even watch the video but The chiefs with a healthy Patrick Mahomes are miles better than our offense. I love what our offense has become but sooner than later teams will start to figure us out. There’s no real answer for Patrick Mahomes arm.
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I don't really think you can just "figure out" this offense. The biggest problem is that Lamar can pass and throw. There isn't set plays, they're all options based on what the defense is doing. If the defense plays the RB lemar can run, pass or both. If the play lamar there are a billion different RB screens/toss passes, normal runs, passes, etc. If they take away the pass he can run. Wildcat failed because there wasn't really a QB that can do both pass and run. This is something different. I'm not really sure how you can stop it. They tried doing spy and it didn't work, they tried blitzing him with zero blitz and he threw a 30 yard completion.
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Lamar can pass and throw.
Well, yeah.
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Take it easy on him, he's been watching Trubisky all year.
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a 2 yard screen to Cohen gets dirted again
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I dont know if the "teams will figure us out" narrative is really valid anymore. Theres nothing to "figure out". At this point teams know what we are doing. Lamar has a full seasons worth of games under his belt. I'm not saying teams wont beat the ravens, cuz lamar is still bound to have bad games. But there is nothing left to figure out.
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Yeah they figured out what they need to do. They send guys after Lamar all the time and it should stop him but he just jukes them out of their cleats. If a team can figure out how to make a Linebacker move like that than yeah they figured it out
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But what if a team uses a DB to spy rather than a LB? Sure it leaves them vulnerable in other areas but a DB should have better speed to may catch Lamar
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Yeah I thought you guys were figured out in the playoffs versus the Chargers last year. But, they really leaned into what they were doing and I’m not sure how you gameplan for that. Specifically the fact that Lamar is making dime throws regularly now in addition to how slippery he is. It’s amazing to watch
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They figured out Marty in that game and that's why he was promptly fired afterwards. Offensive lineman was tipping whether it would be a run or pass. Kinda takes the fun out of the Lamar Jackson offense.
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And he's only gonna get better. 22 years old and a crazy work ethic/drive
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Lolol “miles” better? We lost by 5 points to them this year in their house, and our Offense kept up.
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well im fully erect
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League’s best defense* versus the league’s best offense.
*49ers arguably are better.
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49ers have yet to play a good team other than the Rams. Lets see how they do down the stretch.
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Panthers are good you’re tripping
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Looked at their schedule... you’re not wrong. Oddly, Arizona was probably their toughest matchup. Seattle this weekend will be a big test.
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Ya, their schedule down the stretch is going to be hard. Seahawks 2x, Cardinals again, Packers, Ravens, Saints, and Rams.
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The second Seahawks game is week 17 the division will probably be decided by then.
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Friendship with mahomes has ended, now Jackson is my best friend
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Not watching this video, already know it concludes "because they beat the Patriots".
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I didn’t watch it but I’m going to go out on a limb and say that Lamar is a bigger stronger Russell Wilson and Hollywood Brown is just as good as his cousin with none of the character concerns.
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We will see on Marquise. I think next year will show. Dude needs to put on some muscle. He looks as small as I do lol. He has looked afraid of contact all year for sure. Probably due to his injury issues.
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Yeah he went WAY out of his way on one of his completions to get out of bounds and avoid the hit. If he follows Lamar and puts on some muscle this offseason I think we'll see some huge improvements
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I hope he has his cousin's work ethic
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Timeout Jets. They have 2 timeouts left.
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Short routes Crossing Routes RPO
Blitz up the middle ZONE defense Cover up blitz the safety change to cover 0
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Until they are losing in the 4th quarter and have to actually pass
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They pass pretty well actually. Jackson is a legitimately good QB while also being a great runner.
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they definitely dont
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They're number 1 in scoring and number 2 in yardage while also having less drives than most good offenses because they chew up so much clock. They are absolutely in the conversation.
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Tell me the last team who had over 200 rushing yards per game?
I'm serious I literally don't know who it is, the farthest I could go back was 2003 and no one is close
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1977 Bears I think.
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While it’s certainly a dynamic Ravens offense, the Chiefs with Mahomes wouldn’t have gotten blown out by the Browns like the Ravens did. It’s still a healthy Chiefs offense on top.
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The Ravens got blown out in large part because the defense gave up 500+ yards and 40 points. Are you forgetting that the Chiefs with Mahomes put up 13 on an average Colts defense?
I still think the Chiefs are better btw, but disagree with your logic.
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The Colts managed to completely stop the run, as well as facing a Mahomes who had clearly injured his ankle, on top of missing LT or guard, whichever it was. I’m saying a healthy Chiefs offense is better than a Ravens offense which is now being circle-jerked on here like every other team following a national game.
It goes in cycles. First the Seahawks were clearly the best, then the 49ers, then the Ravens. Lamar has the running ability, but the Chiefs simply have too many weapons for it to really compare. I’m not even a Chiefs fan (I hate Tyreek Hill with a passion), I just won’t doubt them until Mahomes suddenly looks bad on a constant basis.
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Statistically, the Ravens are the number one offense in the league. They are being talked about because they have been consistently good all year. They are putting up the most points per game, the second most yards per game, and they are averaging an astound 200 yards rushing yards per game. I mean come on lol...
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Hill and Watkins were also out that game.
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Yeah, Ravens offense shouldn't have allowed all those points
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Then they should have scored more, as they’re apparently the best in the league.
Wait, not even worth arguing when that’s your username. Oh well.
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I would gladly concede that a healthy Chiefs' offense is the class of the league but this is such a bad take by your "logic" the best offense in the league each year would never lose a game... because they should "just score more"
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Lol
“What have you done for me lately” league.
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I've dreamed of this day my whole life
I usually have to change the sheets after dreams like this.
I turn off the Xbox