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Sweden is giving an award to a murderer and peddler of fake news for "work in the service of free speech". China rightfully will ban swedish officials that support this nonsense.

Just a little background there is a diplomatic rift going on because swedish officials are attending award ceremonies that are whitewashing Gui Minhai, who contrary to fluff pieces was not some champion of free speech any more than say pizza gate conspiracy theorists, but actually a murderer who killed a college student when he hit her with his car while drunk and then fled the country before proper sentencing. He proceeded to then stumble into a career writing nonsensical political tabloids about Chinese leadership that were based on lies and rumors. the fact that people in the west are giving this complete scumbag an "award" for "fredom of speech" is just nauseating.

its eqavlaent to china giving an award to alex jones or some other peddler of lies for their work on sandy hook conspiracy theories.

since when is fake news deserving of awards and championed as "service to free speech"? apparently when its fake news about china or some other "disapproved" country.

Posted Nov 16, 2019, 8:15 AM UTC · locked

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Comrade_writer•

I can’t say it’s a good idea to sanction Sweden. Save the sanctions for an actual relevant power like the United States. If China restricts Sweden, USA could use information from that to better learn how to evade Chinese restrictions later.

That’s way more valuable than punishing a fourth rate power for awarding a murderer and lying scum.

Tbh being seen with him is it’s own punishment, they reveal to the world what sort of people they champion.

It wouldn’t be the first time they encouraged criminals. There are active gang wars right now in Sweden due to their government incompetence, with many deaths already happened, including a 15yr old.

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SurgicalCanary•

Criminals run wild in the West. I visited nearby Norway last year and got robbed. I went to the police station, they couldn't do anything. They keep on harping about our CCTVs, but there's a reason why we use them and it's because they work.

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deoxlar12•

Sanctions are still needed or USA will keep using these useless countries to attack China.

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Comrade_writer•

“attack”

Implies it’s not totally irrelevant.

Especially since the criminal in question is already caught and serving his sentence in China, so they are not even shielding a criminal, just providing moral support to one.

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XiChenYang•

If China gave an award to Alex Jones, absolutely nothing will happen diplomatically and US media will just use this opportunity to wreck Chinese credibility. Much more effective way of handling.

"If Amanda Lind, in spite of our advice, attends this ceremony, then no government representatives responsible for cultural affairs will be welcome to China," Chinese Ambassador Gui Congyou told Swedish news agency TT.

How fucking stupid is this? Literally trying to help the enemy?

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lifeaiurChinese•

This is due to cultural and/or linguistic differences. Chinese mannerism favors straightforwardness. No spinning, no bluffing, etc.. So I guess from a western pov this comes off as tactless. What the diplomat said probably sounds better in Chinese than in english though..

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Wuixa•

I used to have some sympathy for their troubles.

Not anymore; everything happening in their streets is well and truly deserved.

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XiChenYang•

Sweden is neoliberal as hell and their prizes are jokes, but can't say the government handling of this issue is smart. It's the typical rigid, low EQ, tactless, formulaic bureaucratic way of solving problems.

If his writing is actually harmful, the last thing you want to do is make it very public that you don't like it and "you will retaliate". Making a big fuss only strengthen their case. The best book advertising campaign ever. You already know they hate you and looking for opportunities to fuck you up, and yet the ambassador made that standard rigid statement without thinking and they posted it everywhere, making China look anti-freedom and uniting the enemies narrative. Walked right into that one.

Sometimes Chinese diplomacy is so stupid that it is a disgrace to that thousands of years of court culture. How about not being retarded stiffs that respond to every situation with the exact same phrase? Just because you are right and you are justified, doesn't mean you should immediately say it.

It's a plain fact that US foreign policy is a lot more thuggish and forceful than Chinese, no comparison. Physical fact is on solidly Chinese side, yet Chinese PR sucks so much that many global audience still end up seeing them as equivalent.

Chinese diplomats really need to learn wit and charisma from Russian diplomats.

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Russian diplomats are first class.

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Z_Waterfox__European•

Actually, no. Our prices are cheap AF.

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ReacH36Chinese•

do you have any sources for this man's criminal past?

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brown_fountain•

A better approach will be to make the Swedes look stupid by giving an award to such a person. Use third party sources like Youtube channels, 3rd party news agencies, foreign journalists, etc.. Better yet, get opposition politicians in Sweden to question the ruling government on why they are giving this award to such a person. This is far better than the Chinese government making statements in public.

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Tankiedestantski•

The Swedes would never pull this shit on Putin because everyone knows that Swedish ministers would start finding polonium in their meatballs.

Xi is too kind hearted.

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TheMogician•

Sounds like exactly the same thing with Li Hongzhi and the Falun Gong nonsense. He was a whackjob who wanted to cash out on the Qigong fad that was going on at the time so he mashed up Qigong with some Buddhist stuff. He later decided that he was going to enter politics so he had his supporters go organize a silent sitdown in front of Zhongnanhai (for those who don't know, it is like the Chinese equivalent of the White House) and claimed he wields larger political power than the CCP. CCP got annoyed by what he did and checked this guy out, it looks like he has been doing his whole "miracle" thing all over the place and decided to put a stop to this nonsense and his political ambitions. Guy flees the country before he could get caught and now we all know what kind of nonsense Falun Gong throws out. Funny thing is Qigong isn't even a religion, it is more of an exercise than anything else, yet this guy was claiming he was oppressed due to the lack of religious freedom. Now NTD and EpochTimes are basically right wing (almost InfoWars) outlets.

Oh, and let's not forget 全能神(Eastern Lightning), which is essentially a Christian heresy, had a very similar background.

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Hegar•

I don't think you're presenting an accurate summation of events.

The situation is more complicated than the western narrative that all dissident writers are paragons and martyrs, but it's more complicated than your equally 1 dimensional portrayal as well.

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Timberwolf0n3•

Look it’s Sweden.

Nobody reallyyyyyyy cares about them anymore.

I mean, like REALLY.

They have like the hottest blonde chicks in the world...anddddddd...ughhhhhhh...then that’s it!

That’s about all they have.

They’re a no name, non-player on the international stage with no real pull or power either way.

This is nothing more than a PATHETIC ‘show’ of saving face.

They’re only doing this h/c they have to PRETEND like they’re not taking it up the ass from whoever happens to be taking their turn this time.

This is not a legitimate act of aggression, but rather just the delusions of a LOSER who has to loe TO HIMSELF about how he’s soooooooo important.

Give Sweden a good scare and they’ll come crumbling down bent over grabbing the ankles ready to take another session of butt pounding once again.

Lol!

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o0James0o•

Swedes and the other Vikings have oil money. Sanctions ain’t going to do shit. Only global warming will fuck them over because big boi Russia will get on the block once their ice melts.

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jorvis_nonofConfucian•

Response should've been a simple "you're supporting a murderer, here are the charges and the evidence, shame on you."

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