r/archeage•
Frebu

Dear idiots in Halcy....

Discussion

Every time you kick somebody because the game is bugged and won't let them pass lead, not only do you fuck your own team(those people won't be replaced) but you fuck the players who get stuck with a lead they didn't ask for it(counts as an entry). Stop being whiny babies, its a fucking bug and it's annoying as shit but there is literally nothing they can do about it. Seriously watching the west go through 10 people because they can't handle having to deal with bugs and then bitching when we lose(hint its because you kicked everybody you could and we were down 20 people) is getting beyond annoying.

Posted Nov 20, 2019, 1:53 AM UTC

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Vordakai•

TBH all the instanced pvp in this game is a shit show.

-Free for all, mostly filled with healers hiding, waiting it out for free badges.

-Drill, absurd matchmaking where premades play pugs or they put all the healers on one team.

-Sparring/Gladiator, gives so little reward it pointless doing them. Most games take longer to load in than to actually play them.

-And as you point out, Halcy where overgeared pvper's faceroll against farmers (West).

But it's pointless complaining, nothing will get fixed or improve. My motivation to keep playing this game is starting to wane. Doing the same dailies over and over and getting spanked by no lifers with double my gs in the open world is getting tiresome.

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TectonicSlam•

Finally I have found someone who feels the exact same as me. I joined Archeage for pvp and all the instances suck, unless I can build a full try hard team it's just pub stomping.

I force myself to queue for things I dont even enjoy anymore because it's a necessity, otherwise people who do it get ahead and I cant enjoy the only thing fun which is open world pvp.

I've been close to quitting the last couple of days and if it wasnt for my friends playing I probably would of

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burkechrs1•

Even the world pvp is getting boring. People aren't actually looking for fights like they used. People run if it isn't war time and during war all they are looking for is free kills. Anytime they encounter a challenging fight they tuck tail and run like losing 6 honor in a death is game breaking...

I miss the days where 2 groups of 4-5 people each would square up and fight and keep coming back for more. That seems non-existent now. Seems like people aren't down to pvp for fun and are only down if they get something out of it. Defeats the entire purpose of pvp in archeage.

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TectonicSlam•

Agreed, I'm always looking for fun fights even if I lose... Me and a friend hit a red fishing raid and it was 2 v 15 (roughly) and we got 8 people and stole a fishing boat. Most fun i've had in ages!

Usually all I get is a bunch of reds sitting in Hellswamp on the guards using insta kill/drop dead/stealth. Literally won't leave the guards for a fight even though its 2 v 5 its embrassing. I'm all for the 'honor is honor' but jesus man, least come give me a decent fight even if I lose.

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burkechrs1•

Yup I run into that all the time. I was farming in Aegis and had 4 reds gank me a few times. I called 3 friends from guild to come help and after the reds lost 1 time (in a good fight where 2 of our party died as well) they never returned.

I'm not sure why people are so against fights that aren't a for sure victory. Losing is fun as long as the fight is enjoyable and a 5v5 fight where one party gets wiped and the other loses 3 or 4 players is the definition of an enjoyable fight.

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burkechrs1•

What server/faction are you on?

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DatPikko•

Just do it. I quit a few days ago and it honestly feels amazing not having to think about all the unfun shit you need to force yourself into every day.

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Hasbotted•

Most hard cores will burn out pretty soon. Then the game gets fun again. Its the cycle of these games. People join, grind, daily, do stupid stuff day in and day out, make it to every event, get a big epeen.

Realize they are hating the game and doing job #2 (or #1 for basement dwellers) and there is a big world out there of other games. Quit, repeat in new game.

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TectonicSlam•

I feel it might be too late, I know friends and guilds leaving in doves due to multiple factors such as exploiting, bugs, dailies, instance pvp, world pvp etc...

The main complaint is once they get over one issue another crops up, certain activities aren't fun,extended maint, no etas.. and I can completely understand, for someone who joined solely for PVP I just cannot keep up the mass grind to keep up with people to stay viable and to do any sort of instance pvp I need to make a character suited for it.

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Hasbotted•

You can just respec right before you go into instance pvp. You don't need to make a new character.

Setup a team of 5 and go have some fun. Get good with that team, then take it to the next level and go roam around looking for reds. Then take it to the next level and see if you can take out a chunk of the daily grind zerg before they get you.

Most we got before unchained was 14 with a group of 5 of us.

(This isn't counting the stealth mass meteor strike on grimghast)

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DatPikko•

Even if the majority of hardcore players quit you still have to face the fact that most theme park and daily stuff is no fun at all. This is a big and Important Part of the game and it’s just not fun. That’s deadly for a GAME.

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Hasbotted•

If you feel that way this game is not for you. I find a lot of the game to be fun.

Exploring

Ocean PvP

Open World PvP

Raising random animals

A bunch of housing related stuff.

What i don't find fun, i just don't do. Even some of the unfun content can be fun if you don't just zerg around. West Hiram/East Hiram dailies can be fun if you are looking for pvp instead of just farming with a 200 person zerg.

The mindless rush to the max gear score is not fun. It's pointless. Its just a means for playing and then quitting and never enjoying the GAME the entire time.

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burkechrs1•

-Free for all, mostly filled with healers hiding, waiting it out for free badges.

Well how else are us healers supposed to maximize our kyrios token income?

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OtoanSkye•

I definitely could use pocket healers in Drill camp.

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burkechrs1•

Yea in drill camp absolutely but the FFA arena is heavily favored against healers lol.

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angerbear•

When skewer can almost oneshot the generals, healers can very easily win FFA.

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Awesomefusion•

Gladiator is super fast for me just like before not sure what you mean

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FrebuOP•

That's what they said, matches are quick loading screens are not as quick.

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Awesomefusion•

My loading screen is like 5 seconds max

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FrebuOP•

Right so if the loading screens are fast the implication is that the fight itself is even faster.......

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RivalisticRyval•

He's talking about the combined time of queuing, loading, waiting for the match to start, fighting, transitioning to the next round, waiting, fighting, transition to end screen, loading, repeat.

That entire sequence is extremely fucking annoying and could be streamlined to be much faster.

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vluhdzCleric•

instanced pvp

The only instanced PvP should be the 1v1 arenas. Instances have no place in a sandbox game.

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DatPikko•

archeage

sandbox

Pick one.

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OtoanSkye•

Drill can be pretty fun if you don't get those stupid premades that think they are better players because they got a group in comms.

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Reptile449•

Don't worry East does the same thing, but I can see why, once took us 13 minutes to get co-raid set up.

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memojm•

at least you win lol

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et3rnalife•

I don't think I have lost one halcy what is going on over on your side usually it's like 2:1 or 3:1.

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memojm•

I have lost 400 kills down, its really unbalanced sometimes

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Rinzzler999:shadowplay: :battlerage: :witchcraft: Time to wreck newbs•

but its a bug, and people should realize its a bug and the leader physically can't pass lead

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Andyrtha•

Its not a bug. The leaders just dont understand that you can only promote co-raid leader as the new leader... So whoever you want to lead has to be organized to Be a co-raid leader first

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Raikken•

Considering how much of a shit show Halcy is, they could just give everyone over 4k gs a daily labour pot and disable it.

Would save the headache of trying to join Halcy and hoping that I won't crash, won't get kicked during standby or disconnected 10sec before the end.

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Snowmelt852•

As it has been pointed out, the only reason why someone would be kicked is if he has lead and he is not leading. (nor passing the lead)

At this point, people should know how to lead because its very simple in only 5 easy steps.

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  1. Merge raids
  2. use /command (always) and call out people to select roles.
  3. Mark tanks! (and yourself)
  4. Draw lines in the map. (for either regrouping or setting a line on how far to push)
  5. Call out words such as ''STOP'', ''RETREAT'' and ''PUSH''.

Fail to do this and your faction has a high chance of losing. So more learning and less complaining.

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FrebuOP•

You must not be playing west ,we kick people for: Leading a raid and not winning, leading a raid but slowly losing the lead, leading a winning raid but not in the style people want, being raid lead with low gear score, not passing lead when somebody else claims they could do it better, passing lead when somebody else said they could do better and then didn't(its a twofer) and let's not forget, just for the lulz.

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Helmite•

Not gonna lie, I think Archeage has the most toxic community I've had to deal with in a game.

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EmbarrassedFox12•

Then all the epique pvpers chase 5 fleeing pirates and their healers get raped by Haranya regardless of calls.

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  1. You're shit at tactics.
  2. You're shit at strategy.
  3. You're shit at following. I've seen more discipline in boy bands.
  4. You're shit at leading. Don't ask for lead.
  5. You're not shit at logistics which is most of real world battles, sure. But this isn't real world battles that require logistics. But also strategy and tactics need to be employed to protect logistic supply lines. Which you still ignore consistently what little there is in Halcy(respawning reinforcements getting picked off by pirates).

Knock off the lame act. You lose because you're bad.

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Wrust•

while i understand your argument, it is really important to set up the coraid and have a person that makes at least basic calls.

if not, its almost always autolost.

if you cant make calls, ok, im not good at it either, BUT every human being is able to type "im lead, co me" into the chat.

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but i agree. those kickvotes are annoying and i cant understand how people have time in a war to look who is afk and shit and kickvoting them.

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Hardkoar•

The entire community in this game is garbage, I cannot wait for all of them to fuck off back to fortnite.

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occultist1•

just disable the kick feature, its honestly fucking retarded that they put that much power in the hands of sheep who will vote yes without thinking

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OtoanSkye•

Or no when they deserve kicking.

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Helmite•

This game has only made me more concerned about juries.

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OtoanSkye•

Lol. Yea

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teabag_1337•

Yep im also annoyed. I had lead of the second raid (co-raid) and i got kicked cause i did not give orders. I asked like a 100 times if anyone wanted to lead but no one wanted. People complain but do not want to lead gg

I could also post screenshots of horrible insults .... But i guess you know whats going on

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nyym1•

Also everyone who uses their time in halcy to look for some afkers and report them are just as useless as afkers themselves.

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pls-answer•

Meanwhile pirates kick each other for no reason other than because they can. It is expected though, gotta harden to survive the pirate life.

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TheElderling•

There's no bug, commander can be passed to anyone on the same raid, admiral can only be passed to the commander.

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Templeshooter•

Vote kicks are so annoying. The person who initiates vote kick wastes his time witch hunting afkers, and everyone else has to click the button afterwards to close the stupid window. How about you go and fight enemies instead of trying to kick everyone.

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OtoanSkye•

West are a bunch of bitches anyway and East are a bunch of dumbasses. West turtles at base camp minute 1. East runs in and gives them lead with stupid kills further validating West's boring strategy.

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atRouzeMeego aka DeadMeme•

i've never been in a halcy where east has lost, engages are sooo damn important in this game because of just how fast people die with the shitty gear they have right now. much better to engage than it is to hold the s key because you can catch people by surprise

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OtoanSkye•

Ok? That has nothing to do with people not being on the mark trying to get solo kills and getting caught giving West a 5-10 kill lead and validating their strategy of turtling.

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atRouzeMeego aka DeadMeme•

if you are actually engaging then ur wiping most of their raid while they get a measly 5-10 kills from a couple randoms that wanna 1v1

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OtoanSkye•

But we dont engage. We sit back and do these half ass engagements. This usually happens during the day. East gets wiped almost every time.

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bumbasaur•

lol you can just afk at 95% of the content and still be in top100. Wish people would kick slackers more or that the game forced players to actually compete in events

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baluranha•

West is a pirate and carebear factory...seriously...

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tyrprincess•

so theyre into pvp so much they pvp their own faction but theyre also not into pvp at all so theyre a carebear faction.

is this another take on skinny fat?

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Elelish•

Most of the Pirates i play with are fishing half the day, Id guess thats what he means.

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baluranha•

West = People not interested in any PvP content, but thoses interest soon becomes pirates because the income potential from ganking said carebears doing their thing is gigantic.

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Meanwhile, East is just doing all the big contents, in Jergant for example they've probably done 4~5 abyssals uncontested...delivering around 2~4 packs each, now we're starting to fight back but there are still people that were with us on some abyssals that are now pirates.

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cryalote•

And then you realize that your analogy sucks because skinny fat actually is a thing. I take it you never worked out or have any clue about it.

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tyrprincess•

Wow you sure are dumb-smart

Excuse me while I sleep-awake

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cryalote•

Dumb people without a clue downvoting. Even dumber poster answering. Educate yourself kids.

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