I was looking forward to playing against my opposing faction since world PVP is broken and impossible. However, blizzard decides that we are getting cross faction BGs so that’s out the window. Why couldn’t they at least let us have our fun against our own server for a while before opening it up to cross-faction play?
Posted Dec 10, 2019, 2:32 AM UTC
Because it was cross realm in 1.12 and afiak no one ever mentioned different. Given every PvP server has a huge imbalance, there's no way it would work being confined to one server. The dominant faction would be looking at hours long queues.
This is it exactly. No one should have expected realm-only BGs.
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All the US servers seem to. Maybe I'm mistaken, but even if a few don't, the point still stands.
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Looks like 15-20% to me, but maybe I'm bad at math. We don't know exact numbers but it seems safe to assume that since heartseeker is the only alliance heavy PvP realm (afiak), it's safe to say there are tens of thousands of more horde players.
Look, we can quibble about details, but my basic point still stands, queue times would have been out of control for dominant factions if Bags weren't crossrealm.
60/40 is approaching double the players on 1 side over the other.
You reach 66:33 and that's 2 for every 1. That is significant. It doesn't look like it on paper, but it absolutely is.
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We also get AQ on 1.12 (1.13 but still)
I'm personally disappointed, because BG queue times are basically the only incentive in all of WoW to deliberately join the less populous faction on a given server.
The more numerous faction gets the advantage in WPvP, improving odds in gathering, mob farming, and questing, and has more potential players to group up with, making it faster to form dungeon/raid PUGs. The less numerous faction has... better BG queue times. Or at least, that's the way things work without cross realm.
Just from a game design perspective, this is the only mechanism that ever existed in Vanilla to help balance faction numbers within servers. But since it always disadvantages the dominant faction, it's guaranteed to disadvantage the majority of the playerbase, and thus will always be unpopular even if it's good for the overall health of the game.
Exactly this. BG que times were the only benefit alliance is getting and is now denied. To make it even worse - you will get matched with some pve keyboard turners to make sure you are getting stomped in av as well.
I was on a low-ally pop server in vanilla and the bg wait times could get insanely long, and when we finally did get in we would often not even get a full team.
So Im honestly kinda glad its xrealm.
Dont you get enough action on your server via world pvp?
Ironforge is the only BG you need
World pvp is unplayable, alliance outnumber us by more than 3 times ( there is less than 200 horde at level 60 online at peak hours ) being on a PVE realm its impossible to get them to flag outside of tarren mill or our capital
Has anyone got footage of the original bg browser? I remember being able to see how many bgs were running and the queue numbers.
I'm glad for it. Not a large Horde pop on my server so it'll be nice seeing other Hordies now.
This was already confirmed before they made the blue post yesterday.
Since we are playing on 1.12 we already knew this...
So you are kinda 1 year late with begin annoyed..
lol this has got to be a troll
I hated cross realm bgs when they came out, but that's what they're giving us so I already made my peace with that.
we'll rarely see ppl from our own server, I prefer carrying grudge matches in bgs and the world, you get to meet that player who runs around in big groups on equal footing in bgs.
blizzard decides that we are getting cross faction BGs
Are you okay dude?
Yeah 6 months ago
Please see any of the thousand Faction Imbalance threads....
I play on an imbalanced server too. Ally overpopulate our server by at least 3:1 or more.
The reasons I prefer Classic to retail tend to focus around the community aspects of the game. I think the cross-realm bgs diminish the community by reducing server rivalries. Some guilds would get a reputation in bgs and it was fun seeing the top horde pvp guild face off with the top alliance guild. I understand there a a lot of problem in single server bgs though. I would prefer smaller battle-groups that consist of servers of opposite faction imbalances. Maybe that way they could have reduced some of the queue time issues without eliminating or diminishing the rivalries.
I totally agree, the extra effort for blizzard to create tattle groups would be much better. They could have also kept PvE servers in their own group so people cry less about playing with casual players (whether true or not people will still blame PvE players for their losses)
you do not want single realm bgs and theyll never make it that way so stop thinking about it
Realm only BGs? Lol
Dominant faction will have huge wait times if it isn't cross realm.
That is the point, so realms will balance itself.
I feel bad for all these 75/25 alliance dominant servers.
I don't know what you mean. How will a realm balance itself by removing cross server BGs?
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Cross-realm BGs were confirmed before launch.
Take a look, its in a book, reading rainbow.