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SWaddict

how to efficiently farm gb10 ? what to sell and keep ?

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so this discussion is made for mid/end game players i guess, once your pve teams are set and running (cairos, toa/H , rifts... )

now , when it comes to pvp , i found myself needing more and more speedy runes to get that crucial 1st turn , whatever it is arena, siege, war or rta , so i recently came back to gb10 , farming like a mad ( just to give you an idea i managed to farm 10mil mana in the last 2-3 weeks with almost 0 upgrade to my swift sets ( bernard 301 , orion 291 , triton 288 and verde 283 , those are my fastest swift sets )

so lets talk about different runes and what to keep / sell , this is not a guide but a brainstorming of all players in my situation .

so i found myself selling everything that dont have the potential to reach 20 spd without grind, otherwise no upgrade to existing runes -_-

the only runes i keep and try to roll are blade or broken sets with triple rolls in other substats ( mainly cr cd hp or resistance)

swift 5s blue legend with 18 spd ? sell , no upgrade

swift 6s with no spd triple roll? sell

any 6star blue rune with a flat substat or 2 substats that arent usefull together ( hp and atk or cr and def ) i sell , the best they can turn is a double roll in the good substat than a huge chance of the 2 new substats being trash.

how do u guys farm ? ive read alot of guides on what to keep and sell , but once you reach a certain point , i guess upgrading a single rune is really not that easy with the limited xtals we get from freebies -_-

i wont talk about db or nb10 for now because i think its the same process, whats the point of having monsters on vio or will if they are slow as snails? in todays standards even a 220-230 vio set is considered slow ( maybe the exeption of a fat lushen , copper, dozer and a handfull of other monsters )

btw im 900 days in the game, c1 in both arena and rta

lets discuss guys and try to make it simple and clear , not every1 can understand all those guides with complex numbers ( at least im lost when i try to read them ).

tyvm and may rngesus be with all of you .

Posted Dec 11, 2019, 11:09 AM UTC

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Paweron:mo-long::bolverk: EU Guardian bruiser :artamiel::perna:•

How many 6*s do you have and do you care about siege?

swift 5s blue legend with 18 spd ? sell , no upgrade

swift 6s with no spd triple roll? sell

I am g1 in arena and rta, I still keep 16 speed swift runes. Ofc they won't upgrade my main monsters, but with Bernard, bastet, Megan, kona, Orion, Chloe, verde, okeanos, triton, immesity all wanting fast swift sets, I can still use those runes.

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SWaddictOP•

hmm, maybe u have a point , but even with 5 runes x 16 , + 42 slot 2 and 24-25 bonus , thats what, 250-260 spd monster , barely enough in this meta where everything has more spd than i have ;)

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sGerry:elenoa: Kaustic•

Thats plenty of speed for the units he mentioned in siege or gw. I guarantee u atleast 9/10 jeannes or bruiser-built comps wont outspeed that

If u dont care about using more units than the few u have, then u have the right mindset in filtering out runes u don’t need

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Paweron:mo-long::bolverk: EU Guardian bruiser :artamiel::perna:•

Now you grind those runes to +19 and get 95 from subs, 25 from the swift set and 42 from the main stat-> + 162 speed. As you can use 2 broken runes with more than just mediocre double rolls, you should hit +170.

Now you got another 280 chloe for siege.

A 260 kona is enough to fat lushen aegir skogul defs

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SWaddictOP•

Ty, this is why i wanted to post ans start a discussion, told this way is very encouraging ;)

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Seluxe•

Most likely the slot 2 speed is one of my swift rune, and 3 other swift at 16 which I'm am cool with burning my blue grinds on to get 19. 2 other rune that can be broken or 2 piece set between 20-25 speed which I will take an average of 22. 3x19 + 2x22 + 42 + (roughly 22 to 28 from swift depending on base speed)= +165 to +171

Anything G1 siege and below, that kind of speed should be usable IMO.
I am probably guilty for owning more imesety and copper than necessary so I do hoard swift runes.

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SWaddictOP•

;) fair enough

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Kelte:beth: G3 EU :alexandra:•

so i found myself selling everything that dont have the potential to reach 20 spd without grind, otherwise no upgrade to existing runes -_-

Is that a topic for boosters exclusively? Imesety also doesnt need to be very fast to outspeed most bruiser gwd, having him tanky enough to survive a couple perna procs so you can use him again is pretty helpful on the other hand.

Honestly if you cant get first turn with a 301 bernard in arena in the majority of times until high c3/g1 you are just picking the wrong targets/teams.

Damage dealers most definitely dont need to have a bunch of 20spd runes outside of some very niche rta teams.

in todays standards even a 220-230 vio set is considered slow

Maybe if you were in g3 rta, but you are in c1. Even g3 players have a fair chunk of monsters that are around that speed or slower just because they are stats hungry and dont need to be built faster than that to begin with.

The importance of spd entirely depends on the comps people use, having a lot of speed doesnt necessarily mean anything if you hit like a wet noodle and are made out of paper.

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SWaddictOP•

true, i tried this frr megan draco julie lushen shimi, got rarely outsped but didnt have the damage to kill anything ;)

ur reply made me understand 1 thing , i should stop watching all those Kenji and others youtibers who compils g3 rta matches and stop to try copying them , i dont have their amount ofspent time or spent money in the game , i should slow down and dont expect every player to have better runes than me in rta ( my main focus atm) in arena , my shimi bernard megan lushen can outspeed 99% of the ad till c2/3, but then all those psama halphas triton are so popular at that range .

tyvm again for your reply , i will spend the next couple days cleaning my rune inventory and working on upgrading all those imesety kona teon qebetsuef chloes..i didnt touched for years

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EnderCN•

I use a lot of units under 220 speed and I'm C2/C3 in arena. Speed is really important for your openers but usually those openers can protect or boost everything else somehow. I don't RTA though, I could see where it is much more key there.

These limits are way too restrictive for mid game players.

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IAlreadyTriedThatPal:mi-ying: Example flair :rahul:•

It's poor overall for rune farming IMO as there are plenty of good runes being tossed following a strict guide like this. I believe in the good ol' fashioned "2 usable subs" as my guide and it helps upgrade my PVE units by giving them new runes which can free up potential PVP runes that are on them currently and allows me to upgrade all of my units at the same time.

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4ny3ody•

The only advice I can probably give you is to make sure you maximise crystal income if you are relying on free crystals through siege, wb, arena, rivals etc.
10m Mana is about the crystals of a week for me while always keeping runes at +9/+12 and selling all those that lost potential. I even still keep very low speed runes due to my necro team still being above 1 minute, and db10 47 sec average only 96% safe meaning I can still use some low speed high damage sets.
As for speed I make sure to keep stuff above 19 speed ungrinded or above 16 with high accuracy for units like Orion, Clara and above 11 with decent cr and cd/atk for dps.

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SWaddictOP•

As for speed I make sure to keep stuff above 19 speed ungrinded or above 16 with high accuracy for units like Orion, Clara and above 11 with decent cr and cd/atk for dps.

thats a good advice, maybe the 11 spd is too low but generally speaking, very goodadvice ty

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4ny3ody•

11 speed minimum ungrinded is 14-15 grinded and that times 6 is 90 speed and around 115 on swift dps.Allows to be speed tuned to a <290 speed Bernard by himself and with Megan in the mix it'd still be speedtuned to a 330 speed Bernard.
Edit: Forgot to say thank you!

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azido11•

I have like 93 6* rn and in late game for a while now. For a really long time I'd sell any rune that isn't 6* purple or up with spd subs and no flat stats. Then some things changed and units that don't really care about spd became meta and those runes I sold would have been very helpful. Try to think "is there a use for this rune on any kind of monster? Do the subs synergies well with the set? Are the initial rolls high enough?" if these are all yes keep it.

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SWaddictOP•

ty, u got a point here , many monsters dont need to be that speedy nowadays

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RebellionASG•

What stands out here to me is this "farming like a mad ( just to give you an idea i managed to farm 10mil mana in the last 2-3 weeks with almost 0 upgrade to my swift sets"

I don't think that 10 million mana farmed in 2-3 weeks is nearly enough time/runs to expect rune upgrades. Keep that up for several months, and you will eventually get some swift runes that roll speed. But you need to lower your expectations as to how quickly you'll get rune upgrades from farming.

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HieroSatori•

Honestly I think that the drop rates could be better and his expectations should be what we all expect from com2us.

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RebellionASG•

I mean, ya. I'd love for them to improve the drop rates. But reality is what it is. His expectations aren't realistic.

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SWaddictOP•

true , but again , watching all those yt videos about g2/3 rta matches make things look easier and achievable , and you are right about lowering expectations .

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Blank0512•

To add efficiency to ur gb run.. do 4 man team +food.. ez exp

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Blank0512•

To add efficiency to ur gb run.. do 4 man team +food.. ez exp

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Qwazym•

ez exp

literally one of the easiest things to come by in the game, at the sacrifice of slowing down your farming and potentially increasing fail rate really doesn't seem worth it to me.

I get it if you farm while at work and don't replay for 10 minutes so a 30 second run vs 5 minute run doesn't matter either way, but in general I wouldn't recommend leveling using this method.

I mean if you're going to do that just do solo runs with Chow or one of the many other mons that can do it and run with 4x food.

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Blank0512•

U do know u can do 40-50s of gb only by 4 man right.. if u farm 4 man gb on 10-5 min then go back to 5 man..

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Qwazym•

Lol i do 20-35 second runs with 5 man, the examplr was if you're at work and cant hit replay until 5-10 mins have passed.

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Blank0512•

I gest u can do that too.. but i like my 4 man so u get 1 slot to farm exp no need to go faimon.

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