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Mapleint

An Eye for an Eye is the best punishment system

Commonly in the US you see assholes in states without executions get away with multiple counts of murder and get out on parole only years later. I think that if you damage property, you pay for it, an if you damage a person, you pay for their healthcare and you get the same punishment dished out to you. If a rapist gets raped and has to pay financially, he'll learn to not do that shit, if a shooter get sent to the firing squads, there would be less murderers in the world. Ghandi once said an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, but that is only partially true, sure it may be weird to have a person be "Professional Ass Spanker" for the federal government, but it's a lot better than people getting away with murder for a few years and not being charged for it. If you shoot someone, you should be shot by the same firearm, if you torture them, you should be slowly tortured, and if they enjoy torture, we have artillery cannons.

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TLDR I think that an Eye for an Eye wouldn't make the whole world blind, and we should use it.

Posted Dec 17, 2019, 9:30 AM UTC

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DMScum•

Imagine this scenario. A man gets drunk one night, he stumbles into his apartment complex. He has lost his keys so he kicks the door in. He crawls into bed. The next morning he wakes up, and realizes he has entered the wrong apartment. He has committed an act of breaking and entering. However, to create a situation that is eye for an eye, you'd need someone paid by the state to kick in his door and sleep on his bed. This would be someone's job, and that hilarious. "What do you do for a living?" "I sleep in other peoples' beds."

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MapleintOP•

That'd be a killer job. And he's gotta wet the bed

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dip-dab•

What if the police convict the wrong person and sentence them to death?

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AWildAmericanAppearsAnime is dogshit•

Woopsy Daisy

Issue an apology and put a plaque up on a park bench.

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MapleintOP•

Idk however the fuck they do it but this stuff still happens in our system.

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hskskgfk•

Declare the jury guilty and sentence them to death too

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CyanideAnarchy•

Totally not something that actually happens

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I_want_to_choose•

It turns out that the death penalty is poor deterrent for murder: https://www.amnestyusa.org/a-clear-scientific-consensus-that-the-death-penalty-does-not-deter/

What is the purpose of punishment? Vengeance? Justice? Deterrence?

Most people would agree that justice is a very important part of punishment, that a person who kills a long-term abuser shouldn't have the same punishment as a ruthless serial killer. That distinction breaks down when you demand an eye-for-an-eye.

Severity of punishment doesn't always deter criminals. Southeast Asian countries have the death penalty for drug trafficking, and still, people do traffic drugs there.

Is vengeance really important? It may feel good short term to rape that rapist, but will that create a more peaceful society?

The societies with the least crime tend to view criminal justice as an opportunity to rehabilitate rather than punish criminals and tend to have less economic inequality. These are societies I'd rather live in personally.

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theauthoritah6•

Nah. Fuck rehabilitation. Rape all the rapists and get vengeance on all those who wronged you.

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MapleintOP•

Interesting, would Portugal's drug laws be a good example or what other nations would you like to point to. Rehabilitation seems like it may work.

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theyusedthelamppost•

Punishments can only be as effective as they are accurate. If humanity had access to a 100% accurate way of determining who committed a crime, then the punishments we choose would look a lot different.

But we do not have such a means. We have an imperfect legal system which is designed transparently with acknowledgement of its imperfections.

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MapleintOP•

Why do we have limits for how long ago you could commit a crime and still be charged for it then.

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bushido_beige•

How do you punish theft? Or arson? Or parole breaching? Or literally anything other than murder or assault or torture?

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MapleintOP•

Arson you burn down their house, and if there was a person in the house when theyburnt it down you burn a house down with them in it.

Theft, you'd take all their shit, failing that put them in debt. Parole Breaching is arguably victimless crime but, if they did anything bad to anyone in such a process they get the eye for n eye tretament

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SirPuzzle•

We shouldn't punish for punishments sake and justice and vengeance are not good reasons for a punishment.

Don't get me wrong, murder is inherently evil and the loss of a life can never truely be made up for, but I think we need to approach this with more empathy and compassion and not hate and rage.

If we just kill murderers we do not actually understand why they killed someone, often times we could even rehabilitate them back into society. not every murderer is a cold blooded killer (There are some though, and there are cases where we can't help them/rehabilitate them but even then imprisonment is still better than just killing them IMO).

We may stop a few people out of fear of punishment but ideally we would prevent a larger number of crimes by understanding where the system has failed them and helping them before it's to late.

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GingerWithViews•

What about framed people and innocent people who get accused of stuff

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MapleintOP•

We would still have a judge and jury. innocent people get reparations, and if they were executed we give their dependents some stuff and support and fire those detectives.

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GingerWithViews•

congratulations we killed your son because he were in the wrong place. Here have some money.

Doesn't work that way

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MapleintOP•

I guess but isn't that what we do when we have incorrect verdicts and when people are falsely executed/imprisoned.

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SirPuzzle•

Yes but that's just horrible.

Death is not a good punishment and the risk involved is just too astronomical.

When you imprison an innocent they still get to live and often times you can just let them out afterwards. You can't bring back the dead

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AWildAmericanAppearsAnime is dogshit•

I'm with Jesus

Turn that check bitches.

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zuluportero•

You must be 14 lol

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Dazz316Steak is OK to be cooked Well Done.•

An eye for an eye can be seen as a justifiable way to deal with stuff. By doing something to someone you're saying it's OK to do that thing under certain circumstances.

Also many people can be quite selfish in their head and can twist things to justify their own actions but not others and this system wouldn't deter from that.

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Tad1234•

This is literally just, "They did it first."

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MadMaximus86•

Commonly in the US you see assholes in states without executions get away with multiple counts of murder and get out on parole only years later.

This is just flat out false.

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zxh01•

It would not lower crimes, situations and justice is not that simple. That would completely destroy any chanche of rehabilitation, not lower crime rates, be morally wromg, and just overrall not work. The world is not that simple, and in case you steal a watch that you don't own a copy of, what do you do? No

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zxh01•

If you do drugs I'll do them too!

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marbal05•

Your system would never work realistically....

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