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r/JordanPeterson•
EricRounce

A well known Canadian Psychologist says JP has anger issues.

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Well let me just begin with the popular premise stating those of us who develop an interest in psychology do so because we selfishly want to fix our own shite.

I recently came across a YouTube comment by Doctor Gabor Mate of UBC. He was not entirely fond of JP. Perhaps a little jealous of JP's appeal on social media. I found the comment on JP's personal issues to be much more refreshing than a lot of the knee jerk interest based attacks on him.

So to the JP dissenters out there, I have to say, he never seemed to say he was perfect in any way. He simply backs his opinion with his sources and openly recognizes that he too has his bias. What more can a social scientist do? Especially one who opens himself to public discussion, seeking answers and opposition as a genuine seeker rather than a pretend guru on a mountain top.

What do you think?

JUST SANE ™

Posted Dec 31, 2019, 12:18 PM UTC

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LuckyPoire•

Everyone experiences anger. What specifically is the "issue" with JP?

Is expressing dislike or disappointment with ideas/events/etc an "issue"?

I've never seen JPs "anger" interfere with his ability to conduct an interview or conversation....or seen him engage in any kind of socially unacceptable or even off-putting behavior.

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dr_doke•

I think Gabor Mate should stick to addiction psychology and stay the hell out of developmental and personality psychology. I've listened to him talk to multiple times and there is SOME redeeming value in what he says. Otherwise, Mate believes children become corrupt when they go off with their friends instead of staying home. He believes that addiction would be prevented

Gabor also is guilty of projection of his own relationship with son when giving advise on parenting. In one talk, he openly said he felt guilty that he couldn't make a connection with his infant/toddler son, because he was board of the interaction. It's like: welcome to fatherhood! Not every dad can empathize with a pre-verbal the same way a mother can.

Gabor Mate is the walking incarnate of "safe spaces."

I support the other comments defending JP so far.

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RealUnfriendlyHyena☯•

I have no idea where you pulled that children should stay home line from. I've listened to Gabor and have yet to hear anything like that.

Could you link to something? I'd like to hear that but I haven't heard anything like that.

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dr_doke•

I'm not the only one to point this out: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/addiction-in-society/201112/the-seductive-dangerous-allure-gabor-mat

In summary, if you think everything is trauma, nothing is trauma. By labeling every maladaptive behavior as a result of trauma, you water down ACTUAL trauma.

I apologize I couldn't find the podcast where to talks about his parent guilt. I'm not saying professionals should be perfect, but Gabor has a particularly big blindspot.

Additionally, he goes on to talk about how all the addicts he worked with during his practice didn't get enough help. They weren't given a chance to quit, because "no one wants to grow up to be a drug addict." Gabor's approach to treatment releases addicts from the responsibility of choosing NOT to use. Society didn't rescue the addict so they're blameless.

Finally, it's funny how later in that podcast he accuses Russel Brand of projection onto his daughter (not that Gabor is wrong). It's just interesting.

https://www.russellbrand.com/podcast/053-dr-gabor-mate-damaged-leaders-rule-addicted-world/#player

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stevenson9876•

After watching JP for about half a decade i think that is a reasonable observation. I have seen quite a few times where he seems to get worked up in an otherwise usual circumstance.

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TheMythof_FeminismThe Dragon of Chaos [Libertarian/Minarchist]•

Given the health issues that his family suffered in close time proximity to each other, yeah, anyone would have anger issues. Even just 'your wife has a rare cancer' would be enough to give any man issues.

Only a complete moron would argue otherwise.

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controversialcomrade•

Yes, anger is an intrinsic feature.

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k995•

The main problem I see that other of peterson peers have with him is that what he claims and the evidence he gives don really match up.

His claims usualy outstrip the proof or studies he give for them.

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