Gun Tower Machine Event Difficulty

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Does anyone else find the Gun Tower Machine event to be disproportionately more difficult than the other 3?

I only play on Hazard 4-5 and have never been able to successfully complete the gun tower ("Omen Modular Exterminator") machine events without a wipe due to:

A. Massive, rapid damage from the tower itself

B. A massive wave of enemies spawning as soon as the event starts to damage you on top of taking damage from the gun tower.

I understand the mechanics as well - jump/avoid the ground based lasers, avoid the rotating machine gun, etc. Activate the platform that corresponds via the holograph to the correct gun tower section, shoot green sections, win? We try to prioritize the bottom section, since it's usually the most dangerous. My friends and I just find this machine event so difficult we've taken to skipping activating it on runs even though we have a surplus of 10+ blank cores.

Outside of terrible luck, I usually have no issues with the other machine events (Tritilyte Crystal, Ebonite Mutation, Kursite Infection).

What's your experience with Machine Event balance? Is there some other strategy you've found for dealing with the gun tower successfully?

Edit:

Sounds like the common strategies are:

  • Dig (driller) trenches behind the platforms and run UNDER the ground lasers.
  • Use Engi to platform-block the ground lasers.
  • Abuse your gunner shields (obvious, but still a good tip) & try some C4.

Posted Jan 20, 2020, 1:57 AM UTC · edited

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Ojiji_boredEngineer•

In higher levels, there is a chance that the top module will be replaced with a valkarie drone hangar that can instantly down players via contact explosive. The drones are slow but hard to see in the dark, they look like a quadcopter made out of a three stick bundle of dynamite. I only encountered this module once so I think it's rare, but it might be the worst offender.

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DlarOPInterplanetary Goat•

Really? I don't think I've ever seen this, only the yellow laser thing up top.

I don't think I'd mind this event as much if the guns also obliterated attacking mobs with the same impunity it seems to do with my squad.

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Driesens•

Can confirm, had one of those yesterday. Gunner can survive at least one hit from the explosive drones because of explosive resistance, but still took a huge chunk of shields. Thankfully my group blitzed the hell out of it so the drone factory section was the first one destroyed.

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FireCrack•

The drones are dangerous, but you can shoot them down and they have very little hitpoints.

It's one of those things where of you don't pay attention or you get distracted it will destroy you, but if you keep on top of things it's very manageable. I find it the easier option generally.

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PustboxerScout•

No way, I have never seen that happen before. If it does, I'll come back to say how shit it is, because the OMEN is already difficult enough and, by what you're saying, having something randomly instakill you is kinda rubbish.

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DeadKing27•

Confirmed, I've been blown to pieces by one just yesterday on HAZ 4 egg mission. At the moment I've realized what is that weird flying thing up to, there were several of them and I wasn't able to shoot them all in time...

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Ojiji_boredEngineer•

I wasn't able to screenshot it at the time, because haz 5 PE, but next time I will have at least three. It's one possible module, and last time it was on the top.

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mefca•

The first and only time I have done Omen it had the drones and I immediately went down

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Mister__S•

Don't forget they are homing drones

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Shaunsterhc•

Yeah its also much more mechanically complex than the other ones. You have to juggle avoiding the projectiles on the bottom, top, and somehow avoid the almost hitscan middle tower while a significant portion of enemies come at you. No other tower requires this much mechanical skill. Its almost like a bullet hell game on the gun tower, it definitely needs to be toned down to be in line with the other machine events difficulty wise.

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Highcalibur10•

Key to Hitscan is to just not do it until you've handled the others and it's not pointing at its platform.

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Diribiri:swarmer::swarmer::swarmer::swarmer::swarmer::swarmer::swarmer:•

I find the Gunner's shield is also a life saver.

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cjbspartan117•

Yeaaaaah of all the parts the hitscan machine gun is the worst part on that OMEN, but the first order of business is the lasers you jump over...still, could use a tweak here or there

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PustboxerScout•

I've found it's good if one person goes on one different platform, and all of you focus down on a specific level (usually the top one first), and you go downwards and you can pop it more easily.

In terms of machine events, I'd say OMEN requires the most teamwork.

Also, that feeling when someone finds a machine event

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMVTKOoy1uk

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Drilling trenches between the platforms has been the most helpful strategy. Just walk under the plasma, stop trying to play jump rope with it.

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r22b•

This is the best strategy that I've found as well. Driller makes a trench behind each activation platform with a slope to the side, then just sidestep into firing range then back into cover as needed.

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horsodox:swarmer::swarmer::swarmer::swarmer::swarmer::swarmer::swarmer:•

I've done the Omen event twice and it was fine, but the one time I tried the power attack rock glyphid one, we were absolutely annihiliated. It was horrible. Chaos. Screaming. Dwarves on Iron Will raising their downed comrades.

So, I don't mind Omen.

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DlarOPInterplanetary Goat•

I agree, Ebonite can be hard sometimes. But with the power attack recharge pods it flings out + vampire I find mashing through non-Ebonite enemies during the waves can easily give up to +15 hp at at time which really helps.

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danmoore2•

I encountered it first on a solo with bosco and I didn't understand it until I saw the glowing platforms and lazers - once I understood the concept I managed to compete it but you have to be twitchy with the controls to stay alive while on the pads

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RaulikienFor Karl!:rocknstone:•

For my team is usually the easiest, just take the bottom module first and gg

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MusaabCave Crawler:CaveCrawlers:•

Maybe this is obvious, but I've found using cover and hitting from ranged is the best way to go. I've had the event at various hazard levels numerous times and only had my party wipe once. And I play with randoms.

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theatomiccherryBosco Buddy :bosco:•

Found out that an engineer can actually block up the breach cutter spray with platforms. Mind you, it will probably take your entire ammo stock to do so, but it works.

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theatomiccherryBosco Buddy :bosco:•

Which would make sense, the Breach Cutter is supposed to be a mining tool.

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whiffyspiffy•

Just did this recently with critical weakness and it took about 3-5 seconds with everyone on platforms, but I have also struggled hard, especially if a couple dwarves go down fast due to machine gun.

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Zexis•

It's hard if you don't pay attention. The rotating MGs can be avoided and the purple lasers jumped, as you said. I only go down if I get cocky and ignore those. It's really not so bad with some practice

The other events I can find way harder because of the RNG. Can get screwed if the Kursite bugs drop crystals down a random hole or something

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Zexis•

I think the one I find hardest without pheromones is the pickaxe event, especially on haz5.

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BeauOfSlaanesh•

My biggest issue with it is it doesn't damage enemies.

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_Gorge_Cave Crawler:CaveCrawlers:•

I actually can't believe how the gun tower encounters range in difficulty. Sometimes I can solo them in my sleep, others, the lasers won't stop tracking me and there's literally nothing I can do.

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