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r/RocketLeague•
hackis

You know what's ironic about the drop of Linux/Mac support?

Steam on Linux has a tech called Proton (based on the awesome WINE software) which allows you to play Windows-only games on Linux. Proton is developed by Valve to expand the Linux gaming library. And rocket league seems to be working pretty well on Linux through Valve Proton. So Linux users will likely still be able to play Rocket League.

The ironic thing is that Valve does more for Psyonix and Epic's customers than Psyonix and Epic themselves. Way to go guys when another company cares more about your customers than you do.

Posted Jan 24, 2020, 2:49 PM UTC · edited

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vanguard_waffle:Bronze1: Bronze I•

I read this and got terrified that Linux support would be completely voided for RL on steam even though it’s now Linux Native. Hopefully It doesn’t end.

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hackisOP:Diamond2: Diamond II•

Well that's exactly what's happening unfortunately, Linux and Mac support is ending in March.

Thankfully the game CAN be played through Steam Proton, but I think it's just a matter of time before Epic Games remove the game from Steam and force it only on Epic game store, at which point who knows.

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vanguard_waffle:Bronze1: Bronze I•

So will steam completely phase it out? I thought it would stay there without change??

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hackisOP:Diamond2: Diamond II•

So far they haven't announced any plans to remove the game from Steam, but it's likely that it will happen in the near future since Epic Games owns Psyonix and they want RL to be Epic Games exclusive. The future is very uncertain.

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_ItsEnder•

They said in the future it would be removed from sale on steam and become only available to buy on EGS but people who already purchased it on steam will continue to have access to it and get updated like normal. Though honestly I don’t know whether I should believe them or not now.

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R10FCB•

The issue with that is proton gets mistaken as cheating by anti cheating software on online multiplayer games. So if epic decided to incorporate one in rocket league it doesn't matter how well proton can run the game, every Linux player will get booted from the lobbies.

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JChan1010Grand Champion :gc:•

But why would they, how would you cheat in rocket league?

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Empole:Champion3: ?!•

aimbot ofc. No more missed open goals /s

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R10FCB•

I'm not saying that they will but I'm saying it's a risk. It's the one thing Linux users need to be mindful of when playing an online multiplayer game through proton

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TMud25:Champion1: Champion I•

They would do it to fuck with proton (linux) users or maybe to kill mods

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ThatBigDanishDude:Champion1: The Worst Champ•

Some bots are getting surprisingly good

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ryangoldfish5:mod: Moderator | t.tv/GoldfishTTV - YT/c/GoldfishYT :mod:•

Valve don't care for Psyonix/Epic's customers, they care for their own customers, or more accurately for themselves. Any DLC/Credits etc. that you buy, they make a portion of the sale. It is in their best interest to make their game library playable on any system.

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Tuckingfypowastaken:Diamond2: Diamond II•

Any DLC/Credits etc. that you buy, they make a portion of the sale. It is in their best interest to make their game library playable on any system.

As opposed to epic, of course, who clearly don't make a portion of dlc/credit sales...

I don't think that OP meant this to imply that they have the utmost in customer service, but that they at least hit the baseline (unlike epic)

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raggerOhMyDog•

Just some clarification, Proton is developed by Valve, but it is a fork of Wine. So it wasn't made from scratch by Valve. It's a fork that is aimed to work better with Steam games.

Proton, and Wine, does not always work. Sometimes games work flawlessly (platinum rating), sometimes they work flawlessly after you do some tweaks (gold rating), and sometimes they work with minor issues (silver rating), or they don't work at all (bronze rating).

Steam has a list of officially supported titles. Like DOOM 2016, but you can try it for any game but it might not work well.

It works great for Rocket League, supposedly, but this might break completely in the future if Epic's anti cheat is added.

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Pixel8ed_Nerd:steam: 1350 hours Linux user (r/FuckEpic)•

The game doesn't work in Proton (for me, at least).

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enwash:Gold2: gold with no discernible skill•

Does Proton support DX11?

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Trubo_XL•

Yes

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hoffmanmclaunsky•

It's not ironic at all. This whole thing is so silly. Why would Epic keep spending resources on support when this kind of thing exists.

BTW saying Valve does more is just disingenuous. Valve is doing this to support a lot of games, not RL specifically.

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Tuckingfypowastaken:Diamond2: Diamond II•

More is a relative term. If epic isn't doing it, but valve is, then valve is doing more than epic

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hoffmanmclaunsky•

It's just misplaced anger. Valve is making efforts so that their games are playable on Linux regardless of platform. Epic isn't, in part because Valve is. Why get angry at Epic for that? It's wasted effort.

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Tuckingfypowastaken:Diamond2: Diamond II•

That's a cop out and a half...

'Somebody else is willing to step in & service this product that I already sold to my customers, so why should I have to stand behind it? '

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hoffmanmclaunsky•

It's not Valve stepping in at all. Valve is going to do this regardless.

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[deleted]•

Totally agree. In fact, the reports on Proton say it runs better than the native Linux version of the game! People are good at finding things to be angry about.

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hoffmanmclaunsky•

Probably because Linux was never really meant to be a gaming platform and Windows is. MS knows gaming is important to their user base and so they spent time and effort optimizing Windows for games. Ubuntu is not at all meant for gaming, it's geared toward software/server development. People are just stubborn.

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Banana-Mann•

Windows was not meant to be a gaming platform, it became one because it dominates the consumer market and the companies will go where the business is

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hoffmanmclaunsky•

Read about the history of DirectX drivers (developed by Microsoft for Windows) vs openGL (developed by Silicone Graphics and used by Apple in their OS). In the 90s Microsoft wanted to make sure their OS performed great when it came to games. Apple didn't care.

Windows didn't just accidentally become the industry standard OS for gaming, they put effort into cornering that market and its totally revisionist to suggest otherwise.

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FakinUpCountryDegen•

No desktop OS is "meant" to be a gaming platform. It's all about hardware manufacturers providing physical interface and driver support for the platform, then game developers compiling binaries that run on that platform.

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hoffmanmclaunsky•

Semantics. MS has spent time and money into making their platform perform when it comes to games. Ubuntu devs haven't.

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