How to find an engineering job

This is a guide to searching for a job. It’s intended for people seeking an engineering job, and assumes some experience, although it may be useful in other cases.

The Resume

This is the primary document that an employer is going to read. It defines your education and experience. It must be clear and logical, get right to the point, and use a standard format. Employers have a limited amount of time, so don’t waste words with irrelevant stuff. Every word should be about your engineering skills, not sports, church, hobbies, or anything else that isn’t relevant to an engineering job.

Your resume should start with your experience in reverse chronological order, followed by education. Some people put a summary at the top; if you do that, it should be a single sentence, and avoid useless jargon. Probably exclude teenage jobs, unless you have no other jobs.

Use more words to describe you recent jobs. If you worked on several projects, describe each of them. Older jobs can be summarized more briefly.

Probably skip high school in the education section, unless you were valedictorian or something. List your bachelors degree GPA if it’s good (maybe >3.2/4); otherwise skip that.

Don’t do anything goofy or clever. Don’t put in pictures, banners, charts, colors, jokes, etc. That only works in the movies.

Cover Letter

The resume tells about you experience and education, and the cover letter is more of a story about why you are good for this job, what you like to do, etc.

Some people consider the cover letter irrelevant these days, but write one anyway. Don’t just re-state your resume; say different stuff that makes you seem just right for the job.

Some job sites don’t allow you to include a cover letter. Move on.

Finding the Job

Some people will say that job ads are useless; that you need to know somebody to find a job. That’s obviously untrue, because thousands of employers pay money to list jobs online, and have elaborate processes for applying to those positions.

If you have contacts in the industry, hit them all with a message explaining what job you’re looking for. But many engineers, especially younger ones, don’t have a good network, so job ads it is.

Indeed.com is an excellent place to find jobs. LinkedIn is also good, and there are many other sites. Also, once you find a job post, you can then go straight to that employer’s career site and see what else there is. You can also search for firms in your target area and go right to their career sites.

Recruiters can be useful, but they often have limited knowledge about your skills and what jobs are appropriate. Some of them are useless idiots. It would probably be a good idea to get a personal recommendation for a recruiter, if you don’t want to waste time.

Execution

The plan for a deer hunter is to take one good shot and achieve success.

Job hunting never works that way. You can do everything right, and not get the job. Often, you will never know why it didn’t work. Job hunting is more like hockey: you hit it again and again, and sometimes you will score.

Don’t take it personally if a job application is rejected, or you get no response at all. And don’t waste time crying about it. Expect this to happen a lot of the time. If you get an interview from 20% of your applications, you are awesome.

You should start by applying to every job post that is even semi-appropriate. Sometimes jobs are poorly described, and they might be more appropriate than you think. It’s not your job to back away from a position that isn’t a good fit; the employer will take care of that.

Make a spreadsheet to keep track of whom you applied to, what response you got, the contact info, interview notes, etc. It’s easy to lose track of these details once you have a dozen applications in the air.

Make a folder for each job application, with the job description, your cover letter, and the resume that you sent. You may want to edit you resume a bit for each job, to emphasize the right skills.

Will it Work?

Your odds of success are a function of how good your skills are, how well you speak in an interview, how well you track down the best jobs, and how many applications you send out. Those first 2 things may be hard to fix, but those last 2 things you can start on today.

Posted Feb 6, 2020, 11:32 PM UTC

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StrawberryLarry•

I'd just like to add one thing from my perspective: while a cover letter might be seen as irrelevant by some people, its definitely more relevant for entry level positions and internships. I highly recommend students and recent grads focus on their cover letter when applying for and internship or first job. There's not as much to set you apart from other candidates at that stage, and generally more competition. Good written communication skills and passion about a position can count for a lot in that scenario.

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Brohiemen•

I agree one hundred percent. I've had to make the decision on which resume to pick when comparing similar resumes and the cover letter always is a useful tool to get to know an applicant pre-interview. Sometimes we dont have enough timeslots for all of the applicants to have an interview, and with fresh grads always looking, the resumes can look identical.

The resume can be a cookie cut template, some applicants could have a greatly formatted resume but be awful in an interview. The cover letter is your freedom of expression to show your research and interest in the position. It also lets us know what kind of person you are to an extent so we can make the interview smoother.

If you really want to impress on your post grad or Summer student application, spend a good amount of time doing research on the organization and their history, relate some of it to yourself in your cover letter. And If you get an interview, knowing some facts about the company hiring can get you a job!

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oneringshortAerospace Engineering•

Cover letters are also great for talking up points that don't come across well in resumes. Couldn't get internships because you had to stay home and care for a family member? You can say as much here and expound on why not having those internships isn't something that will hold you back. Caring for a family member is intense and demanding work. Maybe while you were stuck at home you did some small projects (that don't have a neat spot to bring up in the resume).

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DrewFlan•

I would also note that brevity is paramount on a cover letter. It does not need to be one full page. It is highly unlikely that the hiring manager will read more than one paragraph anyway so it really shouldn't be more than that anyway.

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beh5036•

I think I disagree with one point. If you are a new grad, it is okay to list hobbies that are relevant to the job. My manager screened 30 resumes. All with the same degree and no experience that is applicable. one we brought in listed "worked on BMW replacing such and such components". That was there only reason he stood out. The same guy also created a very nice binder of his experience in school. We didn't ask for it but it put him at the top of the list. We hired the guy (I'll add he did interview very well and fit with the team).

In the same regard, we had a resume that listed the guys political alignment and that he hosted geeks who drink. Don't put that you drink or your political affiliation in your resume. He had some extremity applicable experience but we did not hire him, partially due to this.

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Ferentzfever•

Political alignment: The Borg

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1wiseguyOP•

If you don't have significant work experience, then you need something to show your skills. Hobbies, school projects, etc.

But if you have a couple years of real experience, that stuff becomes secondary. In the professional world, hobbies are much less important, so it's better to not seriously talk about that.

If you're talking a lot about hobbies and school projects, it sounds like your real job isn't significant. Even if that's kind of true, you should pretend that your job is amazing.

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beh5036•

Oh absolutely. I should have said this is for new grads (no experience) only. If you have experience and list hobbies, you can guarantee someone will ask you to explain why it's related to the job you're applying for.

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zestybasilpizza•

As a fairly new engineer, this is basically what I did. I ended up applying to everything in a 50 mile radius, and the job I ended up getting wasn't even one I applied for. My company just held onto my resume and a job opened up that had some stuff that matched classes I took in college, and they called me.

And Something to be super prepared for, perhaps even more than rejection, is straight up non-answers. I applied for dozens of jobs, got maybe a dozen rejections, and many more that just never gave me any kind of response.

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magkruppe•

I got rejections rolling in 8 months later

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FeralBadgerMS | Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering•

I got a rejection letter in the last year from a job I applied for 3 fucking years ago. I mean honestly, what the hell.

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jheins3•

Also, whatever experience requirements they post, forget it is there (within reason). How you should interpret job experience on a job posting is as follows:

  1. 1-3 years experience - We want you to be familiar with job duties but don't expect expertise. (this is equal to Degree + 1 internship or relevant club in college)
  2. 3-5 years experience - We are looking for someone who is an expert and will take little training.
  3. 5+ years. We are looking for a senior industry expert.
  4. 10+ years. We are either a really retarded company or we are looking for Executive/Directorship levels (then you probably shouldn't apply).

I am a full time mechanical designer. I have had opportunities to interview for engineering positions and I am still finishing my degree (Junior) part time in Mechanical Engineering. The last two jobs I have held all "required" engineering degrees. Obviously that was false.

If I were looking for a job I would ABSOLUTELY apply for every experience level requirement depending on job description. Obviously I'm not going to apply for senior/director level jobs but anything "Associate Engineer" or similar title, I would 100% apply for regardless of what experience or credentials are on the posting.

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Jason_OT•

"The" resume should be a template with greater detail on every position than you'd ever expect someone to read.

The resumes should be tailored to each application, using the same key words and tenses used in the job postings, rephrasing where necessary, and trimming the fat from the template resume as necessary.

Sans networking, getting through ATS systems so a human actually sees your application is job #1. That starts with individually tailored resumes and being discerning in your applications.

20% response rates isn't all that crazy when you're tailoring how and where you apply. The 1% response rates we'll be seeing more complaints about starting April/May-ish (more so in r/AskEngineers and r/EngineeringStudents) are almost universally the result of spamming the same resume to any posting that looks remotely appropriate.

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1wiseguyOP•

That is good advice.

Whether it's a computer or a human reading your resume, it's good to use the same language as the job description. There are different words to describe things, so use the same words as the employer.

Also, you might have 10 things you did in your last job, but the job description is only asking for 4 of them, so maybe re-write the resume to highlight those 4 things.

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derpepper•

Do you mean tailoring as in just rewording the same experience to match each job description? Entry level/recent grads probably don't have enough experience to pick and choose what to include on the resume.

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StormyDragons•

A lot of times, especially at larger companies, your resume goes through some automated process and filters in resumes with keywords before an actual human looks at it. If the keywords aren’t there or don’t have a high enough match, your resume is rejected.

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EternalSeekerXB.Eng Aerospace Space System Design•

Would you say these tips will help someone who is still looking for the first engineering job but graduated 4 years ago? I have no issues getting responses from finance jobs but engineering jobs ignore me. How would you tailor this advice to someone who has no professional experience as of yet?

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gmclapp•

You might consider applying for engineering internships. The market for engineers (at least in the US) is so desperate for new engineers, that those 4 years are a big red flag. You will likely be asked "What have you been doing for 4 years?" or the interviewers may ask themselves: "Why can't this person get a job when the market is so fat?"

So, hiring you on as an intern is lower risk. The company can get a feel for your work ethic and experience before committing to hiring you full time.

I know that can be disappointing/insulting, but that's the boat you're in now and it's best to be realistic about these things.

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DawnSennin•

The market isn’t “fat” everywhere. For instance, engineering jobs in countries like Canada are incredibly difficult to obtain for new grads and immigrants.

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gmclapp•

Well, that's why I specifically mentioned the US. Because I know that. :)

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EternalSeekerXB.Eng Aerospace Space System Design•

Fair, i mean my answer is ive been working in a non engineering job, its not like im sitting around for 4 years. Also i am not in the US, in Canada, and Canada has a shit aero market. However most intern jobs want students that are in school about to finish not someone who has been out of school?

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gmclapp•

Well that's a good answer. I'd say just make sure your work history on your resume illustrates that and you shouldn't have any problems.

A lot of companies are looking for interns who are still in school yes. But there's definitely a place for those who aren't as well. If I were looking at resumes, I might even prefer the graduate-intern in certain circumstances for certain positions as I can expect them to have finished more higher level classes and handle more technically difficult work.

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thenackdotcom•

You should start by applying to every job post that is even semi-appropriate

Yes, and even if you only have 30% of the skills of the job. Most companies put a wishlist of their perfect candidate as the JD but they will accept a real person who actually exists instead. Generally if you tick all the boxes for the JD, the expected salary will be insulting.

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driverofracecars•

What if you have no relevant experience and aren’t a recent grad?

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Cheese-Its_Christ•

Then your cover letter becomes even more important. It gives you a chance to explain why you're a better candidate for an entry level position than a recent grad. Or, if it's not an entry level position, why your experience is relevant.

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Tarchianolix•

I love job search so much /s. "What if I have no relevant experience?"

"Have it relevant on the cover letter"

Yes.

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Cheese-Its_Christ•

What’s your alternative suggestion?

No hiring manager is going to go with a candidate with zero experience unless they absolutely have no other options. And rightly so—there’s no benefit from them taking that risk.

The only thing that will help you in that case is a clear rationale for why your previous jobs or hobbies have set you up for success at this job. Did you learn to deal with difficult people as a waiter? Did you learn about self-direction as a camp counselor?

As a reviewer of resumes, I have absolutely no reason to pick a sparse resume. It’s your job to convince me why I shouldn’t care that it’s sparse.

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DoubleJesusPower•

Honestly the first question was pretty stupid: "What if I'm not 100% not qualified for the position"

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Don't apply? Why are you looking at jobs for which you have zero relevant experience? If you are/were a student you DO have relevant experience and can list it.

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Stiryx•

Why do you have no relevant experience if you graduated a long time ago? This will be the major risk with hiring you, so probably best to explain in a cover letter.

‘I have recently been living my dream of travelling around the world, I have been employed as a bla bla bla’.

Big red flag when people haven’t worked in the industry at all.

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driverofracecars•

Is it a red flag if your reason is that you were pursuing your dream career and it ended up not panning out?

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0le_Hickory•

Somewhat of a red flag. We hired an engineer with a history of something like this. She quit 8 months later to go on an open ended tour of India. She did good work while she was here but turnover sucks, because you lose the productivity while it is vacant and then while you onboard someone knew. I'd rather avoid it.

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driverofracecars•

What can I do to reassure potential employers I'm not a waste of time?

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Stiryx•

It’s not a red flag if you have been doing something productive eg not sitting in prison, unemployed living in parents basement etc.

I would expect employer to ask why you have left your old job though in the interview.

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DoubleJesusPower•

depends. Was your dream career professional video game player during which time you lived with your parents?

Was your dream career building your own business selling 3d printed gun accessories that you designed yourself?

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driverofracecars•

Professional race car driver. I used my engineering degree to do all the engineering of new parts, design, testing, prototyping, etc. Just couldn’t get the financial backing to make it feasible as a career.

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MangoSmoke•

Find some way to get experience. Volunteer at your local maker space. Ask faculty on campuses nearby of they have positions working in the machine shop. Do some DIY arduino or woodworking project. It doesn’t take much to give you something to talk about during an interview or to put on a resume.

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NLSEngineering•

As a firm that hires 3-5 grads per year.. start marketing yourself early. We talk to the profs and deans to understand who are the top students. Then we essentially attend their project displays and events, getting to know them along the way. For us, we like to start with co-ops where we can invest the time and effort in providing real world experience, ingraining our culture and gaining experience with each other. We care about your hobbies and investigate your social media presence/activities. We don't really care if we see pics of house parties with bongs clouding the room. We're looking for the positives. People mature as they grow. We try to learn as much as we can about you and your personality. Equally as important as technical skill, is attitude. One can be taught skills. Demonstrate that you understand our business and make an effort to show that you're continuing to learn post grad to prepare yourself. We recognize that your employment with us is just part of your life, and we heavily value work-life balance. We like to be flexible and tailor a work environment that fits your life and our needs. Our people are our greatest assets and the very definition of our brand. We treat them like gold and they give us their all every day. Free gym memberships, free food every day, work from home, flexible work hours, progressive culture, etc. We create an environment of opportunity, pay well and expect a lot. Your selection of employer is just as important as our selection of you. None of the above requires any work experience.

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twotone1911•

I enjoyed this, thank you for taking the time to do so..

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Thetiredduck•

What if my hobbies include personal engineering projects?

I don't mean like making lights blink with an Arduino, more like rocketry, designing/building airplanes, or robotics. Asking specifically as a recent graduate who already has a job but is looking for something else.

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Dragon_of_Greed•

I think of would not hurt if those hobbies are put on the resume since they are related to engineering and will make a good talking point In An interview.

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Thetiredduck•

Do you think it would help with moving to different type of enginering work? I want to move into design or test engineering but my current role has very little of either.

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Dragon_of_Greed•

That could be possible. If you can get an interview for a position you want you can talk about your hobbies and bring up any aspect of them would apply to a design/test skill set. I myself am a recent grad so I do not know what is all needed to get into design or test engineering but if you build a good enough resume to get an interview the rest is selling yourself as the ideal candidate.

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AmosCakos333•

Make a portfolio. Most applications online let you submit supporting documents or add a website. Or refer to your portfolio in your CV

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gmclapp•

Can't second this hard enough. A portfolio basically gives your interviewer a script that you have prepared to paint your experience in a very favorable light. It also gives the ability to give concrete, documented examples of your work. And hopefully highlight your technical writing skills.

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HoopyFreud•

Where exactly do people get portfolio material from? I'm sure as hell not allowed to put any company models, drawings, or reports on my own devices, let alone on a website.

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gmclapp•

Projects from academia usually. That's more advice for fresh graduates. Though, if the stuff you work on is public domain you'd have an easier time.

If you can't share work from your job, you can contrive some engineering drawings or studies that are demonstration only so that you can sort of exhibit your skills. Think FIRST robotics stuff or other community outreach that you can "over document" while simultaneously helping kids get real world experience. Everyone wins.

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gmclapp•

This kind of thing is good content for a cover letter.

Your intuition is correct that these hobbies are valuable experience for a new engineer. It's also probably more valuable to have those hobbies on your resume rather than non-engineering work experience. (Warning: not everyone agrees with me on this)

What I recommend to students in practice interviews, is that they put relevant work experience on their resume and put a little footnote that says "Full work history available on request" at the bottom. That essentially gives you the credit for a long work history, and makes your resume cleaner and packs it with only the upsides that hiring managers are looking for. ie your technical hobbies.

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RuggedProductions•

Definitely include them if your current experience isn't a lot. This shows interest in engineering outside of school and work and looks good to most employers. As long as it all fits on one page, I'd say go for it.

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Thetiredduck•

Yeah, I think my current experience is decent enough to find a similar but better paying entry level job, but I'm hoping to move more into design or testing.

I'm hoping personal projects plus showing I can work on regular projects at work can prove I'm ready for something a little different.

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mrboomx•

Also: apply for everything you are even remotely qualified for. I am a mechanical engineer but I applied to a structural engineer posting with LinkedIn easy apply (it's one click why the hell not do it), turns out they already hired for that position but in seeing my resume, gave me an interview for a job in their mechanical department they hadn't posted yet which I work at now.

You never know what is going on behind the scenes, especially at smaller companies.

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Typhoon2423•

I applied to a position on Thursday, had and interview Friday, was hired Monday, and started Wednesday. All I applied with was my resume and a hope. This was after more than a year of applying at least one resume a day. I applied to a position on Craigslist and it's been great so far. It helps to find a company desperate for new hires.

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lunaray062007•

This!

My goodness, if anything, I want people searching for a job to understand that for some people it happens with one application, and for some people it will take a long time....and it doesn’t necessarily reflect you or your resume.

So often does it really just boil down to “right time and place”... which sucks for some...but everyone’s experience in getting a job is different!

Obviously, there are things you can do increase your chances or hurt your chances. But, a lot of it is chance...

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deletetemptemp•

Say I want to get back into mechanical engineering after doing another job in IT management m. Is it still worth mentioning my college projects that closer aligns to the job requirement?

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sardekar•

i'd add: be a normal dude/chick. We'll teach you what you need to know for the job. What we cant teach you is how to be a cool dude/chick to hang out with all day.

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phl_fcAutomation - Pharmaceutical SI•

As much as some people might prefer working solo at a desk all day in a closed office, most jobs involve talking to other people and social skills play a big part in the interview. One of the smartest guys in our company almost didn't get hired because the feedback at the interview included a pretty unanimous "there's no way we could put him in front of a client". FWIW we did take a chance on him anyway and his social skills weren't as bad as he showed in the interview.

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1200albus•

Some reddit threads are like cofee machines. People with expirience thow in the beans of expirience. people who need advice, get their cup of wisdom. Thank you for such a wonderful advice.

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twoshoesonesockJack of All Trades; Master of None•

I applied to Tesla sometime in 2016 and received their generic response that they would review my application.

Fast forward 2 years and one of their internal technical recruiters or HR reps contacted me and wanted to discuss a position.

When I applied I thought working at Tesla would be a dream job, even though I didn't necessarily think myself qualified. So when their HR rep contacted me I was a bit surprised.

Anyway, a couple things had changed in that 2-year period. I found a different job that I loved and was well compensated for. In addition, a ton of negative press about working at Tesla started to leak.

So, what do you think I did? Gasp I told that recruiter to fuck right off.

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1wiseguyOP•

You hit on an interesting point that I didn't cover:

You never know what will happen after you apply for a job. Sometimes they respond the next day, sometimes in a couple weeks, often never, but sometimes way, way later, when you have completely written them off as a no-go.

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twoshoesonesockJack of All Trades; Master of None•

I guess the moral is: don't get too hung up on one job opportunity because that is all it is until you have the formal piece of paper sitting in front of you.

You never know if something else better might come up while you're waiting.

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cssmythe3•

Portfolio

Digital or otherwise, pictures of cool things you did in school projects, picture of your home workbench, cool hobby stuff you've done that's related to making things (mine had pictures of vacuum formed chocolate molds I made for my now wife), arduino gizmos you've made, a car engine you've rebuilt. This should NOT be in your resume or cover letter.

Engineering drawings you've done. Do NOT show anything that might be proprietary. I had a candidate show me drawings marked 'secret' that he did as an intern for another company. If he couldn't be trusted to keep their secrets, he won't keep ours. Pictures of finished products you may have worked on always makes good conversation pieces.

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atimidtempest•

What about a portfolio?

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1wiseguyOP•

I think of a portfolio as a thing for artists, maybe web designers. I have never heard of an engineer doing that.

Granted, I am limited to electronic circuit design.

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AmosCakos333•

I think a portfolio is a great way to expand on projects done. It's hard to explain projects when you only have a two page cv. It's great for graduates to show the importance of their uni projects and for other engineers to show their contributions to companies. It can also show a bit of personality and good communication skills beyond just report writing

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lunaray062007•

I made a “portfolio” while I was job searching. I’m an environmental engineer. I didn’t get great grades in school but I knew that just because I didn’t get straight A’s, I would still make a good employee and engineer...so I pulled together some of my projects I did while in school to show that I had a lot to offer.

My “portfolio” included:

  • a piece of paper that was an “award certificate” from an engineering design class that my group received second place for.
  • from my capstone course, a basis of design report (it was short). I was the “project manager” of my team. Since it was based off a real project, i blacked out sensitive information.
  • an exert from a research report I wrote as an undergrad...I asked the professor if I could be graded at the graduate level if I did the graduate level work... he said yes, so i wanted to show that I “stepped up”.

I may have had a few other random things... but the main thing was the capstone report. I brought it to my interview, and I may have mentioned it, they may have glanced at it (I vaguely remember). I know they didn’t read any of it fully. But I think having it in hand made me feel more prepared and confident that I was qualified.

I don’t think this “won” the interview for me. But it didn’t hurt. And the process of preparing it helped me prepare for my interview.

In everything you prepare for a job, like a resume or an example piece of work, you should always ask yourself, “what does this tell them about me?”

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snarejunkie•

I work in product design and having a portfolio can be absolutely essential for some openings. Specially if you're applying anywhere that puts emphasis on the aesthetic of the product because its consumer-facing.

You're not expected to have a beautiful portfolio like an industrial designer, but basic presentation skills and the ability to realise an aesthetic vision are important, and a portfolio is a good way to showcase that.

It also makes it super easy to talk about projects when you have a couple of pics at the ready

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cancerousiguanaEIT - HVAC•

Follow up on your applications! My current company tossed my application in the trash. However, I emailed my now-boss about 2 weeks after applying and told him I applied, we spoke on the phone later that day, he offered me the job on the spot at an interview the next week.

Obviously the process is going to be different depending on the size of the company and branch (we're an office of 8 engineers in a nationwide company of about 230 people) but following up is the easy way to make sure your resume at least gets looked at by a human.

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DoubleJesusPower•

Ok I have a question, I got my first "engineering" job at 17, basically I was a CAD monkey. Then 1 summer at 18yrs I worked another CAD monkey job with some design work.

Now 13 years later I've been working in manufacturing for 6+ years, I've used CAD ~4 times in that period.

I'm trying to decide whether to include this on my resume as 1) it was so long ago I was literally in high school, 2) it shows that I've been "in" engineering for a long time but isn't super relevant experience to my field... 3) I already have plenty of other work experience to highlight my CAD knowledge

Resume is finally to the point where I can't keep it to 1 page so when I switch to 2 pages I guess I'll see how much blank space there is at the bottom XD

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