Mistakes made and apologies

###See the original message to the community post here

#I've been a big idiot.

I owe you all an apology and an explanation.

##Mistake 1: Modmail visibility

One of the main things I keep expressing is how the mod team wants the community feels like they can reach out to us so we can address issues one by one.

For context, I still use the old Reddit UI, mostly out of habit and familiarity. When you click the little snoo icon in the top left near your profile and regular mail, you get your modmail page.

Here's what I see today

Little odd, isn't it? I'm mod for the r/PvZHeroes sub as well and can see the messages there, though the last one is still from a year ago. Could there really be no other messages?

Sure enough, this entire time I've been ignoring the unread tab in the top right, assuming the all tab would contain new and old messages right?

...RIGHT???

Turns out this was wrong, and I clicked the tab for the first time in probably months

I facepalmed harder than I ever have in my life; I'll have a nice palm-shaped bruise on my forehead for the next couple days. Now I could say that the old UI doesn't indicate anything and the all tab is misleading, but I really should be using the new mod mail system anyway, which looks something like this

##Mistake 2: Automod Settings

As it was raised to me in the comments of the last post, people thought by the way I framed the example, most of the removals and "censorship" were manual bans. The truth is, again, I've been a big idiot.

Manual moderation has waned significantly in the past few months and I found myself not really tending the sub much anymore either. One of the last things the team did when they were still active was set up some basic rules for automoderator to help keep the sub clean.

Given that manual enforcement of the rules wasn't going to be feasible for a mostly inactive team, I thought I'd add some extra rules for automatic post removal when a post hit a threshold for reports and downvotes. It's essentially a system where the community moderates itself.

Turns out these settings were WAY too sensitive and posts were getting tagged left and right with only a few reports. Here's what the removals in the moderation log currently look like. Pile on me missing the mod mails and well, you have the very justified feelings of a neglectful mod team.

##Fixing the issues

First one is simple: I'm going to go into the mod mail and reply to everyone in the last 48 hours and reinstate posts where appropriate. I figured any posts older than that are past their due, but people are free to repost them as they like. I've still got to head to work though so I probably won't finish until later today.

Next, I've readjusted the automoderator settings to make much more sense. Hopefully the new rules will manage the community a lot better.

After that, I'll be checking in with u/wardendstrange if they're still active to get new mods added. If not, I'll make a request to r/redditrequest to gain permissions. We'll then do a major mod recruitment call.

Once all that's done, I'll be stepping down as mod. While I had good intentions and wanted to improve the community, clearly I'm not cut out for the job. You all deserve better.

##And of course finally...

I want to apologize to everyone in the community for my poor efforts and shortsightedness. At the very least, I hope you had laugh at my gross incompetence.

Posted Feb 11, 2020, 1:14 PM UTC · edited

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WobblyGoblin2•

This is how you apologise for a mistake. Would you like a job at Plarium? They seem to need some training in that department.

And in all seriousness - we are all human. No problem. The forum has still been one of the best moderated I see even if you reckon you have been "not tending the sub much". Appreciate all your efforts.

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nightswhosay•

ation has waned significantly in the past few months and I found myself not really tending the sub much anymore either. One of the last things the team did when they were still active was set up some basic rules for automoderator to help keep the sub clean.

Given that manual enforcement of the rules wasn't going to be feasible for a mostly inactive team, I thought I'd add some extra rules for automatic post removal when a post hit a threshold for reports and downvotes. It's essentially a system where the community moderates itself.

Turns out these settings were WAY too sensitive and posts were getting tagged left and right with only a few repor

Can't second this enough. Fuck Plarium; thank YOU!

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LiefSchneider•

Amen mate!

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BeRightBlack34•

Thank you for your apology. For the most part this reddit has functioned quite well so thank you for your work too.

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Nuk1024•

Yeah, ok ...

But give me a free Draco or I'll quit !

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Boehm77•

No worries mate

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ShinyVeggiesaur•

You really shouldn’t step down, you were just overwhelmed and thought your systems were working when they weren’t and tried to ease your own workload which is expected from a free position, and now you’ve made steps to correct your errors. You’re the perfect mod and I don’t think anyone wants you to step down at all.

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whiteboymatisse•

Bro don’t sweat it, we all hate plarium, not u guys

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GrantDayton•

I had no idea there was an issue (subbed, but I'm casual), but I can tell you give a crap. So thanks for modding and handling this situation.

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mario454545•

Many of us didn't even notice whatever it was that you claim you did. Get back to work.

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sir_dragoon•

Agree.

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Pizzaman54•

Agreed.

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Warp3dM1nd•

We don't allow honesty in this sub! Burn the heretic! We only go by the word of Plarium heathen!

All jokes aside considering how toxic this environment is right now I don't blame you. You are between a rock and a hard place and doing the best you can. I salute you for that.

Tbh not many mods even on Reddit are willing to take 1 on the chin.

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walkingparad0x9•

At least you actually apologise unlike certain companies... cheers for the apology

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Osmodius•

Hey, nice. What a mature response. I like this guy.

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talshyar99•

We have all been there. Thanks for your heartfelt apology. Very much appreciated. And very much appreciate your hard work.

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1st_Wee_Free_Men•

+1, thank you

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partytreasurer•

What a well written, honest apology and post. Please do not step down, we need more people like you. Cyrilla, take notes.

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HailToTheChamp•

This is one of the few subs where the mods don't let their Fandom of the game cause them to be partial to pass judgment. Also this is one of the few subs where the game can learn a thing or a million things from the mods. Thanks for your transparency and for your time in being a mod.

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Owlyx•

I vote for you to stay on as a mod if you're interested. Totally understand if not, but you seem like the right type of person to have involved in moderation. Don't sweat the (pretty funny) mistakes!

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businessoflife•

Whe the reddit mod has better PR than the actual game.

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OfeyDofey•

I accept your apology

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_T_Y_R_•

Stupid Question- Why do people use the old reddit?

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Left4Bread2•

If you’ve been around long enough, it’s just habit. I’ve been lurking on Reddit for 8 years now, and the redesign feels like a different website entirely because I’m so used to the classic look + RES. Just comes down to personal preference.

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bhoffman20•

It's definitely preference, I prefer the lightweight feel of the old site. It's very simple and clean

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KaribouLouDied•

Because its better

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kindler35•

Dude, we've all done something like this before. Thanks for owning up to it.

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KallouslyOPMOD•

UPDATE: It's been a busy day at work and I have other commitments later tonight. I don't think I'll be able to get to many modmails, but I'll give it a go. Might take a few days.

Automod rules have been adjusted already though so please reply here or send a mail if there are still problems.

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