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CuriousIncel2

How to introduce someone to MGTOW / Red Pill?

Is there a way to expose someone to MGTOW / Red Pill content without them immediately getting defensive and rejecting it automatically? It appears to me that most of it is only aimed at people who are already Red Pilled. Otherwise, any criticism of women, however mild and/or true, even those that are painfully and observably obvious, is treated as misogyny. The only way I can see men swallowing the Red Pill is after being on the wrong end of women's cruelty. Or the much rarer case is by keeping an open mind and noticing how reality does not conform to what we're taught. Either way does not provide a means for the presence of a third party.

Every time friends, family or acquaintances try to shame me for my bachelorhood, or ask me the secret of my prosperity, I try to disseminate some Red Pill knowledge in the only form that is socially acceptable - humour. A close cousin who views me as a role model seems to have understood the underlying message, and implores more serious discussions about why I choose to remain single. I feel like he is all but ready to swallow the Red Pill, which will serve him enormously for the rest of his days, at least to ensure that whatever his decision, he has heard both sides of the deal.

The way I see it, only he can make this leap of faith. He seems to agree with my jokes, but I think if the same were presented in all seriousness, the socially conditioned defense mechanism would be triggered. It would be such a shame to let him arrive at the Red Pill only after suffering first-hand, especially when he was so close to being proactive, but I feel totally helpless in this regard.

Thank you to anyone who takes the time to reply.

Posted Feb 12, 2020, 9:38 AM UTC

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mansrandom•

You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink.

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DangZagnut•

Nope. They have to come to it themselves. Exposing them to not just makes them angry.

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MGTOW_BEASTMODE•

Don't ever try with a plugged in married guy they will become furious.

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Metalcrazyx•

It's hard. Men need to want to seek the truth, as Neo did in the matrix. You cannot force down the pill, most people will throw it up. If someone is naturally suspicious, through observation, they are more likely to accept the pill

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CuriousIncel2OP•

Yeah, I think I just have to either let it happen organically, or just showcase examples all around us (his mom literally right in front of him; I constantly hope that he understands how he's being manipulated instead of feeling frustrated and fighting with her).

To use the Matrix analogy, I'm just trying to figure out when is the right time to offer him the Red Pill like Morpheus. Neo went through a scary encounter before Morpheus saved him in the nick of time.

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TheSilverShade•

You don't , they'll come after an eye opening experience hopefully

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Bloodrain_souleater•

There is no exposure unless someone wants the exposure.

You don't force people . They awaken themselves.

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Robert_is_a_Loser•

Honestly I'd recommend letting them borrow the Free Agent Lifestyle by Coach Greg Adams. It's an easy read and costs about $12-$14 on Amazon. Pretty much covers the basics of Red Pill while having sections dedicated to self improvement as well.

I let a co-worker freah out of high school borrow the book and he was hooked. I ended up giving him the copy.

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CuriousIncel2OP•

That's a great idea! I could read the book in front of him and hope his curiosity does the job.

Again, the MGTOW books I've read would be considered misogynistic by Blue Pill standard. I'll check out this one and hope it's a moderate tone. I don't think the one I'm reading right now - 13 Rules - is suitable for this.

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Robert_is_a_Loser•

He has a YouTube channel as well so you can see his "tone". I would say his strength is being able to get his point across while keeping it "family friendly" which carries over to the book.

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MGTOW_BEASTMODE•

You don't.

Each man has to find his own way to here.

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kubicas•

You don't.

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MuleFool42•

Most guys don't share with anyone that they are MGTOW/RP, but I also don't think it's wrong if you see a situation like the one you describe. I would say that the best thing to do is to not force it or evangelize too much.

Just describe what it is in your own life that makes you so happy, how you achieved it, and the philosophy that informed your own choices that made you successful.

It's up to others to go on their own journey and/or they own individualized version of MGTOW. All you can do is share what works for you, but only to people who are prepared to listen.

Most people aren't. They hear that you're MGTOW and want to push back, fight, shame, and convince you why you are wrong. Best to let them be.

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RealFemale•

When people experience things, they learn from them using mostly what they already know.

Just let them know MGTOW is a thing, that its a reasonable option.

They will still walk their own path and make stupid mistakes with women, but when they do your knowledge may be remembered and help them make a better decision next time.

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FrogSweater•

Perhaps issue by issue? I dont know that you could lay out the whole thing in one 'lump'

Ive been talking to my son (18) about equality a lot lately and from a feminist viewpoint to make the conversation less controversial .

Im saying that If he choses a long term relationship make sure there is real equality in all parts, equal financial input into shared goals (like raising kids) and houses is vital. Equal time off etc etc. Ive also scared shit out of him with stories of guys getting girls pregnant when condoms break etc the girl keeps kid against his wishes and he is up for 16 years maintenance plus plus.

Where i (48) went wrong was i let his mum take 15 years off work which has baked in a lot of inequity we wont be able to undo. I started pushing hard for her to get a job 5 years after he was born (second kid came along) but she couldnt or wouldn't... My choice was to bail out and watch someone else raise my kids or take it... I took it which with hindsight was the right thing for me.

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PsychoticChimichanga•

You can show them r/FemaleDatingStrategy

Then, let them decide.

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