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Chav

What's going on here right now?

This sub is suddenly being spammed by crime stories posted by a few users, it's obvious who, and been made completely useless. Is there a chat somewhere directing people here? Can the mods ban them

Posted Feb 16, 2020, 8:57 PM UTC

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Probably a discord chat or some other place. R/nyc has always been brigaded, and it's going to ramp up for elections. People spend a lot of time on the internet to the point that what they see and read on Reddit, twitter or Facebook is how they think the world is. So you ramp up this shit on Reddit and people will think the illegal immigrants are hiding around the corner waiting to rape and murder you. Every black persons you meet is gonna attack you. The city is 3 months away from returning to the 70s and 80s because of de Blasio and Democrats, etc. Just gotta realize don't believe or trust what you see on Reddit.

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backlikeclapBed-Stuy•

It's very frustrating. The best way to combat it is for us to post actual quality content, just downvoting the trolls isn't enough.

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Hookah_Guy5•

Just ignore them lol. They feed off of reactions

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leetnewb2•

Not a comprehensive option when rational posts are hidden by brigading downvotes.

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ChipAyten•

It's not just a function of ignoring them and they'll go away. They're not a passive nuisance, but they actively sink content that's relevant to New Yorkers and boost content that's inflammatory to this city's collective ethos.

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ChipAyten•

Downvoting doesn't work when the trolls outnumber you. They'll just forcefully take over a sub without action. That's one of the drawbacks of Reddit where a sub is minimally policed.

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kickit•

Stay vigilant.

In his book This Is Not Propaganda, Peter Pomerantsev, a researcher at the London School of Economics, writes about a young Filipino political consultant he calls “P.” In college, P had studied the “Little Albert experiment,” in which scientists conditioned a young child to fear furry animals by exposing him to loud noises every time he encountered a white lab rat. The experiment gave P an idea. He created a series of Facebook groups for Filipinos to discuss what was going on in their communities. Once the groups got big enough—about 100,000 members—he began posting local crime stories, and instructed his employees to leave comments falsely tying the grisly headlines to drug cartels. The pages lit up with frightened chatter. Rumors swirled; conspiracy theories metastasized. To many, all crimes became drug crimes.

Unbeknownst to their members, the Facebook groups were designed to boost Rodrigo Duterte, then a long-shot presidential candidate running on a pledge to brutally crack down on drug criminals. (Duterte once boasted that, as mayor of Davao City, he rode through the streets on his motorcycle and personally executed drug dealers.) P’s experiment was one plank in a larger “disinformation architecture”—which also included social-media influencers paid to mock opposing candidates, and mercenary trolls working out of former call centers—that experts say aided Duterte’s rise to power. Since assuming office in 2016, Duterte has reportedly ramped up these efforts while presiding over thousands of extrajudicial killings.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/03/the-2020-disinformation-war/605530/

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CNoTe820•

But are they extrajudicial killings of cartel members and leaders? Because it sounds like that's basically what people wanted to vote for.

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realisterForest Hills•

New York State and the city are completely irrelevant though. Republicans don’t even campaign here.

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Foxtrot56•

It's not about that, it's about controlling the discourse online. If you aren't very familiar with the alt-right check out this series

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaPgDQkmqqM

Instead of talking about more important topics, or even about cash bail and how it actually works, we are talking about "animals", "thugs" and "savages" committing crimes. Pretty much none of these are even related to cash bail but it's brought up every single time.

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realisterForest Hills•

cmon thats just blatant propaganda.

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CompactedConscienceBed-Stuy•

Republicans controlled the New York state senate for something like 48 of the last 50 years. Even in New York City, there are some races Republicans can win.

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Monkeyavelli•

Like, say, the mayor's office that they've held 20 of the last 30 years. Yet conservatives love to whine non-stop about how only Democrats can win here. Then they turn around and rant about fragile liberal snowflakes.

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Lol, and yet conservatives and the alt right spend a lot of time in r/nyc trying to make their voice the loudest....

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realisterForest Hills•

I dunno why that is probably just trolling because politically NYC has 0 value to republicans.

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ChipAyten•

Most of the Democrats in this country are Republicans in disguise. Their racism, classism is interwoven in to duplicitous, draconian economic policy rather being obvious about it. Platitudes and tokenism. They don't overtly campaign on things like caging Honduran children - real high bar there. They just don't put up much of a fight when the GoP comes for WIC funding, or they actively sabotage universal healthcare. They're both liberal elitist parties and work in concert to job the tax-payer.

https://i.postimg.cc/3J8J6J78/Ds-Jidrx-Vs-AAy0-V2.jpg

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ChipAyten•

I've been asking the mods to institute some sort of residency test for a while now. Not dissimilar to how r/blackpeopletwitter handled white people pretending to be black. Maybe a photo of piece of paper with your user-name next to your license/ID with a NYC borough on the address with everything else blacked out. Nobody is being doxxed from "Brooklyn, NY".

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ChipAyten•

Nobody wouldn't be allowed to post. But verified residents would have a little check mark, as what happened on BPT.

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SuspiciousFood9•

First time I've been to Reddit. I'm not saying illegals or minorities are the cause but crime has risen dramatically under this Mayor.

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[deleted]•

There’s been more crime posts but I don’t think it’s to do with the election.

Not as though NY is a swing state is it.

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Doesn't need to be a swing state. All you need is to establish the connection of fear of roving illegal immigrants and dangerous minorities with liberal cities.

It's like you guys commenting here haven't paid any attention at all to the last 3 years or even read one sentence about Cambridge Analytica's operations.

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pbntm2•

I think the mods are sleeping.

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leetnewb2•

If the answer to these questions is "yes," maybe that's the reason these news stories are appearing on a news-aggregate website.

Do you think it is possible that the news stories are appearing to push a narrative?

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EdChamberz_•

Or that redditors post them hoping to stir a narrative

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bigblue36•

Do you think it is possible that the news stories are appearing to push a narrative?

Couldn't the opposite be said in the reverse situation? 'The stories are not visible to drive a narrative.'

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leetnewb2•

I don't think it is a particularly credible argument. For one, absence of a topic doesn't do nearly as much to demonstrate an inorganic effort to drive a narrative. Also, I think infrequent crime stories on r/nyc pretty fairly reflects how posters here experience being victims of crime, which is to say never...or at exceeding low frequencies. People organically prefer to talk about topics that impact them personally.

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bigblue36•

Random people getting slashed in midtown is a personal issue to anyone in midtown.

Getting attacked in the subway is a personal issue for everyone who rides the subway. I've been attacked in the subway and had to change my commute because the person recognizes me and comes for me.

The stories being posted aren't about East New Yorkers shooting each other. It's the random and public attacks that people should be aware are happening.

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thebruns•

In a city of 8 million people, is a single random crime incident worth a post? Probably not.

Imagine if every single minor car crash got a post. You could use the same logic. Did the crash happen? Was it reported on? Do we need a post? probably not.

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capemaycliff•

Well said.

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deadlyenmityBay Ridge•

This isn’t a news aggregate website this is a discussion board for a city thanks for playing though take your racism elsewhere

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Really curious about what you found racist in the comment you replied to.

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functionoftime•

why would the cop union want this? thanks to diblasio they're paid all the same to just sit in their cars all day and play candy crush and do nothing. they low key love diblasio, trust me!

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Read more. Particularly what the union president has and continues to say.

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functionoftime•

nice cope. police just want to put their 20 years in with the least amount of work possible and retire to florida, and diblasio has been great for them.

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deadlyenmityBay Ridge•

Mods here are boot lockers this is already confirmed with that sticky where you could practically hear the rage filled tears as he threatened to ban anyone talking bad about the mta.

They wrote fuck cops on a wall! The humanity!

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viksraMODManhattan•

we delete the racist garbage every day. I used to be transparent about it by posting a copy of the mod log so everyone could see actions that were taken (with usernames redacted), but it took too much time to edit and format the giant list. Just keep reporting things, they get deleted and the user gets banned.

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pbntm2•

Shush, you, if you publicize it, people from here will just go over there and ruin it.

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TheOtherBarryChinatown•

What would some group have to gain by sowing angst in r/nyc? Mayoral race is a ways away. The state's going blue this November.

NYC really isn't a winter wonderland city imo. I think general discontent is just resonating with some folks.

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What would some group have to gain by sowing angst in r/nyc? I think general discontent is just resonating with some folks.

These are not the actions of a single coordinated group. They're just unaffiliated trolls, maga cultists, and their respective bots utilizing the same tactic.

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The_Question757Westchester•

No people cant be unhappy with how nyc is going, it's just right wing trolls and Russia and their psyops groups, I swear the Alex Jones type shit you hear from the left lol horseshoe.

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gtb82l•

Why would you ban people posting crime stories? I came here specifically to understand why the number of mentally ill on the streets has increased so dramatically since DeBlasio took over and how we can reverse it. Does that make me a troll?

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EdChamberz_•

Crime stories doesn't explain policy change and effects. Statistics do though

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e76•

Friendly reminder that you can always block accounts if the content they’re posting bothers you. Their posts will no longer show up in your feed.

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kappamappalappa•

posts like these only defend the idea that rich rapists, abusers, etc... get off scott free. and that's the narrative they push. ignoring innocents who are poor and cannot afford bail which was the point of the law. no one is in favor of dangerous criminals being allowed to commit more crime.

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you got a solution that makes due process favorable for all people, I'm all ears.

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Ssme812•

The mods don't give a shit about this sub.

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bridgen_tunnelFlatbush•

Its a poorly moderated sub.

Sure, its a tough job and they are doing their best, but the end result is the same.

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AceStarS•

Case in point is this 0 effort thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/f5crjm/socialism_isnt_working_in_nyc/

No data, no sort of article associated with the OP. The pretense of the OP makes a wildly blatant accusation where it will bait the contrary point of views reaction.

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jerseycityfrankie•

The comfort you can take in this is that if an organization has to stoop to subterfuge, like astroturfing crime stories, then THEY KNOW and YOU KNOW that their message is bullshit. It’s hilarious when you look at it that way. It’s a self-emasculation from a group nobody likes.

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realisterForest Hills•

New Yorkers are pissed that DeBlasio really ruined the city. Stop people on the street and ask them what they think of the Mayor. You are not going to hear good things.

I am assuming a lot of Bloomberg supporters post about it since Bloomberg is remembered as a good mayor.

But don’t label it a conspiracy. New Yorkers are pissed.

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B3LYP2•

De Blasio is a jerkoff, but how the fuck did he ruin the city? I totally get not liking him, but by and large the city is not worse-off today than it was before him. Crime is low, unemployment is low, we have a housing crisis that predates him, he hasn’t solved the homeless crisis (but neither did his predecessors). Honestly, it feels like the exact same city that it did in the mid to later Bloomberg years. I can’t possibly see how someone could claim that he ‘ruined the city’ with a straight face.

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realisterForest Hills•

I mean ruin is a strong word, this city will survive much worse but all I personally see is more homeless and more garbage on the street. MTA sucks and wants to raise tolls and fares the list is too long

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B3LYP2•

You realize the state is in charge of the MTA, right? Also, the MTAs board is the one who chooses to raise fares, and they are appointed by the governor. And yeah, homelessness is worse under de Blasio, but the recent spike in homelessness started in 2012, in the last two years of Bloomberg’s administration.

It’s basically the same fucking city it was under Bloomberg, with a substantially less like-able mayor.

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realisterForest Hills•

the city has plenty of levers to pull to make MTA dance.

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notlarrydavid4ever•

The city has seen an uptick in serious violent crime. People are rightfully concerned

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Ayangar•

Lots of crime recently.

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