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r/GhostRecon•
LukeLeopard2000

Anyone else sick of the fake war crap?

Question

I get so fucking tired of hearing hiroki spin a web of lies about the outcasts going to war with the sentinel only for nothing to happen.. no change in activity on Arora just the same free uprising militant bullshit. No one is getting involved, besides other players there is no AI team mates or rebels to speak of helping out nomad he's a lone ghost fighting it out against an entire army of brown pants douchebags.

I hope immersive mode will at least add in some random skirmishes and guerrilla warfare between the three factions else I'm going back to Bolivia.

Posted Feb 18, 2020, 3:34 AM UTC

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Crackalacs•

Her lame “Brute Squad” comments every other line is even more annoying.

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AssGremlin•

I have, and I sincerely mean this and not just bashing cause that's "what we do around here", never, ever encountered NPCs and main characters who I have cared less about. Most main story characters piss me off in some way. The NPCs in this game are the first time I have not cared about killing NPCs in any game, period. In GTA I always feel very bad about collateral damage, in Bolivia my breath caught anytime I almost swiped a pedestrian with my truck, and I'm almost never a dick to people in story RPGs. Breakpoint? Let them all die. I think it's the fact that they never run away and have those cringe-ass lines when you get near them.

Cole and his merry band of tryhard edgelords? I'm all on board. In fact, give me alt-history DLC where I can play as Cole and sanitize the whole island. Basically my kill list is everyone on the island except the little girl and the guy in the cowboy hat (what rich character development of a hokey stereotype that I don't even remember his name). And then when I'm all done, I'm turning the gun at my own head, because Nomad is a giant pussy in Breakpoint.

Ugh.

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Crackalacs•

Well, now you know one of the MANY reasons why I shelved this game four months ago and still haven’t picked it back up. And anybody who thinks this new “immersive mode” coming soon is going to be some grand miracle No Man’s Sky level comeback is in for a very rude awakening because I don’t trust Ubisoft Paris as far as I can throw them given their incompetent track record as of late.

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xFR0STYYYx•

Mads Schulz has entered the chat

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legowizard206Playstation•

You got that right BrUTe SqUAd

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AMDFrankus•

To be fair, aside from UNIDAD or the Cartel holding Rebels at gunpoint and then a small firefight breaking out when you shoot at them there wasn't much of this in Wildlands either. You might get some rebels or UNIDAD on patrol showing up, or if you call for support, but not a whole lot else.

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SuperSanity1•

That was one of the biggest flaws of Wildlands. Your actions should have had an effect on the world.

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AMDFrankus•

Quite agreed. It's something that had it been a moddable game that someone would have added, especially after big events like capturing General Baro.

It could be done in Breakpoint fairly easily, like say if you start causing trouble in one area, Sentinel should adjust their patrols and drone coverage in that area and lower the intensity in others. Plus if you listen you'll hear their TOC on their radio net saying they need a QRF in certain places, it wouldn't be too hard to make that detail something that actually matters.

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the_v01ce•

At least in wildlands the area felt living, in BP there are no people driving around, I get it for the story but it just doesn't feel right.

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AMDFrankus•

Agreed, it doesn't feel right because it's not supposed to be right, but it'd be nice to have the Outcasts and maybe some Homesteaders saying fuck it and deciding to proactively challenge Sentinel on the roads. In Wildlands Holt talks about "these Cartel assholes never imagining they'd be dodging snipers and IEDs" when you see the Narco Wall between Itacua and Agua Verde and it would make sense for at least the Outcasts to be doing the same sort of guerilla shit that the Kataris 26 did, especially at the point of the storyline that the faction is at right now where they've got a couple of trainers for UW/FID and enough volunteers to present a relatively credible threat. Hopefully it's something we'll see in the near future.

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Virtual-Chris•

I disagree. I’ve started all kinds of Faction warfare in Wildlands. There are Rebels all over the place once you do a Rebel support mission and any unsuppressed gun fire near a road will have them stopping to help. There are also numerous places where both Unidad and SB are meeting and you only need to shoot one guy and they instantly turn on each other.

Clearly Ubisoft haven’t invested one minute of time in Factions in the actual game world. Except for one or two elite story missions the Factions are all just lore.

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AMDFrankus•

So have I, but it wasn't anything that ever really mattered much, the game world wasn't that reactive. Like I said above regarding events in the game that should have mattered to what was going on situationally but really didn't. Sure, you'd get rebels and UNIDAD and the Cartel all killing each other and patrols interfering but it wasn't something that had too much of an overall impact.

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tire-melter•

There’s no way Ubi thinks of this for realism mode.😢

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Megalodon26•

Well to be fair, there has only been one episode for the Faction stories, so far. With Episode two and three, they are going to progressing the story further. So who knows, by the time year one ends, they may have added things like rebel supports, where the outcasts join in the fight, and the Homesteaders provide things like intel, and supply drops (ammo and consumable refills).

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bgsakmcc•

I couldn't take it any longer!!! I'm back in Bolivia and it feels like home!!!!!!!!!

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betosilva08•

“Even the rain” ?

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Jhak12Playstation•

I’ve put in maybe 20 hours into this game and I’ve spent about 3 minutes talking to the outcasts. I simply have 0 desire to travel across the entire map just to get another laundry list of things to do.

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arn456•

You can always fast travel. There is a bivouac near the outcast base.

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Virtual-Chris•

I find fast travel immersion breaking. You should be able to interact with the Faction Leaders from the field via a mobile device FFS.

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arn456•

What if sentinel or the wolves track the call somehow? They control the whole island. I am pretty sure that isn't the smartest thing to do.

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Virtual-Chris•

They could use an encrypted connection...like FaceTime ;)

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Ddson24•

Let me guess, you have no issues with dieing and respawning tho. Lmao. Immersion breaking. Lmao. Every single game is immersion breaking. The fact you can take a sniper shot and still walk away is immersion breaking.

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Virtual-Chris•

Well I also try not to die and was playing on advanced with a GS handicap due to one primary before I gave up on this game. I try to play for max immersion in all cases, that’s just how I play. And I don’t really give a fuck if you think that’s funny.

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Pkactus•

I see random outcasts going toe to toe with the military all the time

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nlx360spi101•

I’ve seen this only twice and it was only one random dude shooting and missing everything

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Pkactus•

I didn't say they were killing machines, but they try and that's all that matters, that said, they're trying harder than the dev team...

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nlx360spi101•

Yeah i guess I have to give them credit for actually trying

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arn456•

Yep. I've seen that some times.

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Jlinz_20•

Most of the development funding went into coining the term “Brute Squad”. That left about $3.99 for the remainder of the game.

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Izanagi3462•

It's especially amusing when you're not playing co-op and this dummy keeps calling Nomad a squad.

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MacluesMH•

There's the potential for faction warfare, but it needs to be triggered by the player, either by disturbing a group of guards with a hostage in the wild, or by releasing prisoners in a base.

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FoxFort•

Totally agree, where is this "war". Feckin' joke

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arn456•

I'm pretty sure I have seen outcasts and sentinel having firefights in the wild. That is when I interrupt sentinel, while they are holding outcasts as hostages.

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LukeLeopard2000OP•

I gotta see this..

I myself have never seen any such firefights other than a outcast member shooting at a drone or a group of outcasts camped out in the wilderness.. I never seen anything like what you would experience in wildlands. I know someone said earlier you dont ever really see any faction action in wildlands but you can at least create a skirmish by requesting the aid of kataris rebels.

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