r/Minecraft•
jacand

What if......feathers + Black Ink = Pen

Just thinking as we have both feathers and black ink, we should be able to craft a pen to write in books or parchments.

Would be cool for quest like worlds that get created in Minecraft

Posted Jan 23, 2011, 12:13 AM UTC

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Mr_Dr_Prof•

Then books would be useful for things other than just making bookshelves. I like it.

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RoboCrash•

Charcoal + stick (upside down from torch recipe) = pencil?

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sjsamphex•

Would there really be much of a difference between pen and pencil in Minecraft?

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metallink11•

Pens won't work in space.

Also, notch should add space. It would be like the regular world except you have no air and no gravity and just kinda float there. It would be really cool. Why doesn't notch ever implement my awesome ideas?

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myartyheart•

it's because he's jealous.

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furiant•

SPACE PENS work in space.

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RoboCrash•

Pens are permanent, pencils aren't. Geez!

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deliciouskittens•

Beautiful, elegant idea, relatively easily implemented, and gives a function to an already existent block. I love it!

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awhaleisfineaswell•

This is brilliant. Make this happen.

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GrokMonkey•

That would be pretty cool, and unlike most suggestions it could be done super-easily by just making it reference .txt files.

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Neres28•

Obtaining the content is quite easy. Rendering the content is not. Some problems to ponder:

  • where should line breaks occur? A well studied problem, but not exactly trivial.

  • How should the content be displayed? Is the book brought up in a view similar to the inventory? Are parts of the book visible? How are multiple pages of content displayed? If we assume the player 'turns pages' is there an animation that goes along with it?

  • what text effects do we allow the player to have? Can they use different colors, fonts, sizes? How do we store that information? Is it stored in plain text with a html or bbcode style markup? Or do we develop a proprietary binary format.

  • How about languages that read right to left, or even more difficult top to bottom. How do we allow support for Chinese or Arabic alphabet?

-Nothing- in programming is easy.

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digitalundernet•
  • Why not double the width and length of a sign and give the player a set number of 'pages'?

  • It'd have to have its own screen if its stored in a book self. One page at a time and why give it an animation? Forges have the progress bar for a reason not aesthetics

  • How is the data for signs stored? Why get stupid with multi colors, fonts and markups? Its storing a little bit of text not a web page.

  • Can Minecraft support Unicode? If so is it really that big of an issue?

There are easy things in programming. I just think you've put rather pointless barriers up.

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elementalguy2•

I was going to say the same thing but showing two pages at once, mainly to be quicker to read through. Have an upvote.

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Zarokima•
  • Handling line breaks might not be trivial for a freshman, but it's hardly a difficult problem.

  • This is a much better point, though most of it has to do with design decisions. The programming follows from the decisions made, so I really have nothing to add here.

  • Plain text with markup would be the simplest solution.

  • Does Minecraft even support other languages now? It's always an option to just not support those other languages.

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BabiSealClubber•
  • No comment (not quite sure what you are talking about tbh)
  • Design is easy. Difficult to code, yes, but those decisions are easily made.
  • Helvetica, stored as a text file on the server, linked to the book by some identification number
  • Do signs support right to left text?
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heartlessgamer•

Correct. Nothing is easy in programming if you let the scope of what you are trying to accomplish grow needlessly out of control.

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squeege•

First time I got a ink sac from a squid, this immediately popped into my head. I even tried crafting one, and was disappointed to find out that there is no pen.

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clickade•

there is no spoon either.

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Hogwing•

How are we supposed to eat mushroom soup? With our hands? Like animals? Just because we are covered with dirt from the mine doesn't mean we aren't civilized!

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MyFootonFire•

Shovels obviously

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elementalguy2•

I just tilt the bowl and treat it like a big mug/cup.

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grahamja•

It would be cool if you could mix the pen with a book and make a map or a journal as you explored more chunks.

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[deleted]•

Amazing :D

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jacandOP•

I wonder if we can convince Notch to implement this idea?

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onlythis•

mix the pigments for wool blocks with an egg and you can have tempera paint, the canvas could be a hide with sticks around it. then you could have a screen pop up in game to let you make your own paintings in game.

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jacandOP•

Awesome - i guess the feather could double as a paintbrush, unless Notch wants to introduce a horse, which would also be sweet.

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Killbunny90210•

There's no excuse. It's only a matter of time... EASTER EGG HUNT!

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DvesWeasel•

mother fucking time to graffiti some servers is what

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darktype•

I've been thinking they should do something like this and also add "maps".

I know they have minimap mods, but I was thinking of a actual paper map that stays in your inventory. You could then use the pen to mark down your base and other interesting landmarks and how to get to them.

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mynameisflorian•

I've had a similar idea:

ink + feather -> Ink & quill (like flint and steel)

Or:

stone*3 -> inkstone (crafted similar to a pressure plate)

inkstone + charcoal + feather -> "Writing kit" (someone who is better at naming things can come up with something better) -- gets used up like a tool and eventually breaks down to just an inkstone when it's expired.

How to write in books:

Option 1) Make books (and hopefully other items) placeable. Use the writing tool on the book once it's placed.

Option 2) Make bookshelves act like a chests. Maybe make it so you can't stack items in a bookshelf. Use the writing tool on the bookshelf and choose which book you want to write in. Bookshelves could have different textures based on how many books the contain:

0 -- empty

1-3 -- 1/2 full

4+ -- full

Option 3) Just choose a book from your inventory (similar to option 2)

Then you could:

book + Ink/Quill + compass + leather -> scouting bag

"Use" the scouting bag to draw a simple map in a X block radius

Edit: Formatting

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multivoxmuse•

I'm pretty sure that's where this was headed anyway

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ChemicalRain•

NEEDS MORE UPVOTES

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[deleted]•

NEEDS LESS BOLD

wait.

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Gawtrybe•

maybe throw a stick in between for good measure

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[deleted]•

Feathers will finally be usefull.

Yes, I know, arrows. But really, when you have a bedrock to skylimit mobgrinder, feathers dont mean shit.

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Umlau•

Feather Dye

(The dye makes the pen write in different colors)

And it makes 3 pens, each pen writes 100 characters.

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_rush_•

yeah then you could write on signs oh wait

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