These UFO pictures from NASA are IMO the best ever taken, by far.
http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/scripts/sseop/photo.pl?mission=STS088&roll=724&frame=65
http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/scripts/sseop/photo.pl?mission=STS088&roll=724&frame=66
http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/scripts/sseop/photo.pl?mission=STS088&roll=724&frame=67
http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/scripts/sseop/photo.pl?mission=STS088&roll=724&frame=68
http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/scripts/sseop/photo.pl?mission=STS088&roll=724&frame=69
http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/scripts/sseop/photo.pl?mission=STS088&roll=724&frame=70
Scroll down for high-res.
I defy anyone to tell me that is anything other than a fucking spaceship.
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I'm going to save you a lot of clicking for High-Res:
One - Two - Three - Four - Five - Six
Now, educate yourself.
But, but....the spaceship answer is soooo much more awesome!
ah, the generic explanation. exactly what kind of space debris would you classify it as? look at the shape in the first frame. i have done a lot of looking around, and i can find nothing, nothing that we have ever sent into space that looks even remotely like that.
Generic answer for a generic claim. To claim this is a spaceship you've already made two assumptions:
Spaceships exist.
This is necessarily how said spaceships look.
This is an argument from ignorance. Just because you can't find a picture of this object doesn't mean you can fill in the gap in your knowledge by calling it a spaceship. You must first demonstrate #1 and #2 above.
Also, have you seen the amount of space debris? I seriously doubt you've done an exhaustive search or that an exhaustive search could even be done by a civilian. I should note that some space debris is the result of explosions/collisions.. so some of it would be in pieces and in unrecognizable forms from anything you could find on Google images.
Not true, because aliens routinely clean up the space debris. So these must be spaceships!
More seriously, to the OP, I would say these are space debris or other more mundane explanation simply for the fact that they haven't been edited out of the pictures.
Gary McKinnon on the other hand, who claimed having watched a UFO picture when breaking into NASA's computers, may have seen something interesting.
Neil?
Aren't all the ships we send into space technically spaceships?
Yes but have you done exhaustive research of all spaceships to prove that this is not one of them?
You have to first prove two assumptions
We know space dibris exists but you make the claim that space dibris can look like anything and my only question to you is....
Does space debris ever look like this
Yes, I have studied every object ever sent to space, every possible shape and way these objects could breakup into, under every scenario of light/temp/environment. Then I took pictures of every possible shape/scenerio. The photo file I keep them all in is like 9 trillion billion infinite gigabytes large. I was unable to find this combination of shapes and colors in my database.
Zing!
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wait... lets just say for 1 second there are aliens out there...
we can assume they are intelligent beings, seeing as they have found a way to travel and observe/interact with us all the while being undetected in any measurable or empirical way. If this much is true (which can be neither proven nor disproven), why would I expect there to be a reasonable defined explanation for ANY of this stuff? Not just these pictures, but others as well?
If we take these "aliens" as intelligent beings, wouldn't it seem more likely that we only catch glimpses of the truth, as its always being obscured from us? and if this is true, we will never find "proof" as long as it is against the aliens will for us to know they are here or are watching.
My point is simply thus: From your perspective, your argument is infallible. I cannot argue that. In terms of hard, empirical data, those objects are most likely space debris. However, if I allow for any doubt in the "easy answers" (space debris), I can also see these growing number of pictures and video as being voyeuristic casualties of our growing technological prowess. Don't get me wrong - you are more right than I at this point. Doesn't mean I can't make a comeback tho... :P
Likely one of the dumbest things I've read.
When rockets separate from the shuttle, for example, they tend to fall apart, so you get broken, twisted panels of rocket like this.
Let's put it this way: space debris is a possible answer for this. This isn't a symmetrical craft with a cockpit and such that would identify it as a spacecraft. Debris is even a likely answer. So why fixate on this? There's plenty more evidence out there, this ain't it.
I don't think this is a space ship but why do you assume that a space ship would be symmetrical? It wouldn't have to be. It's not like it would have to generate lift or anything.
Looks like a twisted hunk 'o metal to me. And yeah, it doesn't look like what we sent, up because it got blowed up or whacked with other shit up there. IMHO.
Well if your Google fu can't find it, then clearly it doesn't exist.
^This post! The OP is a fucking moron.
Sure, alien life could very well be visiting, but you're seriously grasping for straws if you believe that those are extraterrestrials.
I'm sure NASA would really publish pictures like this if they were UFOs.
Umm... yeah. There's really no need to be an asshole about it. The OP has an opinion and you (and I) don't agree. Neither of you can confirm or deny the other is wrong because you can't prove it. So lighten the fuck up.
Can we keep it civil while we discuss ideas? Otherwise we just slip into insult-land, and nothing is to be gained by that.
No, I can't prove that he is wrong. However, through reason it is very easy to come up with the most logical answer
To jump to conclusions by seeing a very vague picture is a dangerous way of thinking. As somebody who is very interested in the phenomenon it's an insult to my intelligence when somebody decides to yell wolf without looking into it or using reason.
Maybe you need to just take a moment and get over yourself.
There are a lot of people in the world who are just becoming aware of this stuff. Educating them and discussing the 'why' of it usually works better than calling them a fucking moron. JMO.
I should add that 99.5% of redditors think we are ALL fucking morons here in r/UFO.