"We will have our goddamn rights!"... this gives me chills. God bless the Egyptians in their struggle against tyranny.
Posted Jan 28, 2011, 4:52 AM UTC
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Wow, that was powerful. 0:45 really hit home with me.
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Ahem ... you may recall that is was Bush and the Necons that argued the premise that one large step toward democracy in Iraq would eventually lead to a domino effect in the region.
'Looks like he was right ...
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That has been my thought exactly. That is what we are seeing. The end result of the Bush doctrine.
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I disagreed with the Neocons and Bush on many issues, but his geopolitical view was brilliant. It's going to yield more freedom for more people for the first time in that region and have payday for decades to come.
This will not stop the left from shouting about how very wrong he was about everything. You watch - in the face of clear and visible evidence that the Iraq war and Bush's overall strategy were good for the region, the lefties will continue to spit and spew. While I don't much like the right, the left continues to be predictably awful...
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Well, let me disclaim slightly by saying the jury momentarily is out on whether countries like Egypt can keep the Muslim Brotherhood types out of power and experience true freedom for all its citizens.
That said however, after seeing how the Iraqis turned on the fundamentalists who tried to seize hold in the wake of Saddam, I hold out a fair bit of hope.
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I think it IS going to be messy - Revolutions usually are. But think about it - for the first time in modern history (perhaps ever) on a huge and growing scale, we're seeing Muslim/Arab people used to being subjugated pushing back HARD. I cannot wait until this spills over into Persia.
If this works, Bush will be remembered for bringing down the Arab Thug Curtain the same was Reagan was remembered for finally killing the Soviet system...
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We are next (US). Ready??
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If anyone is interested the music is by "13 Senses" the song is "Into the fire"
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You know, I've read a little about the revolution in Egypt but I never really felt a whole lot of emotion from it. I loved the thought of the Egyptians standing up to their government but it wasn't till actually seeing a video of it did it really bring about emotions from me. And damn, did it bring out emotions. I could feel my whole body shake. To see freedom at it's roots, it really is something else.
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what's this 'god' shit buddy?
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Egyptians are devout Muslims or Copts. I'm a buddhist and have no problem wishing marry christmas to christians, happy ramadan to Muslims, jews best wishes for rashishana, happy red-sauce day to flying spaghettists. You don't have to believe someone else's religion to wish them well.
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Hah! I knew I was going to catch flak for the title right after I posted it. I'm an atheist, but the phrase works as a cultural lexicon and using "god" as some unseen, unthinkable extreme to reference to.
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Listen again. He included atheists.
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God fucking damnit! If americans were as patriotic as these guys, we wouldn't be a nation owned by corporations and corrupt bankers. The Egyptian people are fucking incredible. I can't upvote this video enough.
It's inspiring. These guys got balls. Sometimes I feel like there is no hope for freedom in America... but these spontaneous uprisings in regions much more oppressive than ours keep rekindling the flame...
How is your freedom restricted in America?
Unconstitutional wiretapping, no habeas corpus, illegal offshore prisons, unreasonable warrantless searches at airports, hostility toward news organizations and freedom of speech, a police force waging open war on the citizenry... Need I go on? Did you spend the last 10 years living in a cave somewhere?
Really?
There is a government. QED
The fact that we're one of the freest countries in the world doesn't mean we don't have significant problems of our own.
If Americans did what the Egyptians are doing we would be immediately labeled "terrorist" and would be smeared and lied about in the MSM as being criminals. The American government would send in both the armed forces and the police to declare martial law. That is a good reason for not having a large standing army.
Patriotism is kind of the problem. Supporting any nation, just for existing as a nation is just simply a bad idea. How many 'patriotic' Americans supported the PATRIOT act or the war on terror or the drug war or whatever simply because America was the one acting. In my view the line between jingoism and patriotism is so thin as to be non-existent.
patriotism =/= nationalism =/= jingoism
I disagree, I think that outline you laid there is actually a very logical series of events that are destined to happen in any society built around the state.