Just two “best mates” sharing a bathtub naked as us gal pals do.

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Just two “best mates” sharing a bathtub naked as us gal pals do.

Posted Feb 29, 2020, 10:33 AM UTC

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CongratulationsGod•

I've never understood where the idea comes from that women are just always cool being romatic-level intimate with their friends. Like...I do not want to be naked with my friends in a bathtub. Ever.

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The other day I was having this kind of argument with my mother; she was basically saying something in the line of "some lesbian women may have just decided to become lesbian because they had enough of men and they'd rather marry a woman than one of those animals you see around, because women have more intimate friendships than men" and while I don't think she meant it to sound homophobic in any way I've been pondering that it's not an ok thing to say, is it just me or...?

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WannabeCuteGayGirl•

It's homophobic. Women are lesbians because they love Women, not because they hate men.

The only way a Woman chooses to stop dating Men and only go for women is that she was Bisexual/Romantic in the first place

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Chartate101•

Its homophobic but not in a malicious way, just an ignorant way. Luckily ignorance is much easier to fix than malice.

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aldi_is_underrated•

Not sure if it's homophobic, ignorant or sexist tbh

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arie_lle•

Some lesbians have dated men in the past before realizing, or due to compulsory heterosexuality though.

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WannabeCuteGayGirl•

That's not choosing. That's realizing

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Kichigai•

The only way a Woman chooses to stop dating Men and only go for women is that she was Bisexual/Romantic in the first place

Or if she didn't realize she was a lesbian until later in life or was forced to hide in the closet for some time and dated men as a beard.

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And I so knoooow lol but when it's the same person who brought you up teaching you to respect everybody in their diversity and that love is love no matter what you're a bit concerned that she may be right and that's an ok thing to say

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WannabeCuteGayGirl•

Nah. People even with the best of intentions can be bigoted/say bigoted things.

If she's like you say she is , just explain it to her.

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NotDido•

You don’t have to have bad intentions to be incorrect. She’s probably not gonna hate on a lesbian any time soon, but she doesn’t understand them in a way that can be harmful.

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TeamRedundancyTeam•

This is just as wildly generalizing and full of assumptions as any other homophobic shit you might hear.

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She's 50, and holds strong feminist ideals (I also thought about that btw)

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jbkle•

Thank you for this perceptive and nuanced reply.

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solenessity•

Sound like political lesbianism. Google it and prepare to suffer

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I had already heard of it of course and considering my mother's ideological leanings I thought she could be referring to that, but I didn't want to strictly assume so for the simple fact that it's not like she hates men

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datingafter40•

Sound like either strong feminist leanings, or maybe your mom is bi? :)

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strong feminist leanings

She's definitely feminist, and

maybe your mom is bi

I asked, she said no

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datingafter40•

I was joking around a little bit. Awesome that you can ask her that though. :)

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dootdootplot•

No one decides to become lesbian. You’ve either got feelings that lead you to it, or you experiment and like it, or something, but what you’re doing is learning about what’s already inside you, not changing what’s there.

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I, a probably bi guy/probably lesbian girl, am not certainly here to discuss the causes of human sexuality, my main concern is if it's ok at all to say that some lesbians are just straight girls who gave up on men, which I don't think is but my strongly feminist mother, the same person who taught me to accept anyone in their diversity, said anyway

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dootdootplot•

Oh yeah. It’s definitely not realistic to characterize lesbians as straight girls who gave up on men.

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It’s not homophobic. She’s not gay so she has never felt those feelings we do. It’s part of her process of trying to understand. She’ll be on this one for a while and as she had more experiences with gay friends and daughters she might have different theories along the way. Maybe one day she’ll be like “lesbians are gay because they’re attracted to other women!” And all shall be good and we’ll with the world

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Well I mean she didn't say lesbians choose to be lesbians, just that some lesbians do, and that girls have more intimate friendships than boys because "girls need to know their own body" (I have no idea how these things relate at all but anyway).

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lemononpizza•

This kind of things vary so much from place to place, person to person. Tbh I wouldn't find it that weird or uncomfortable. It's not romantic or sexual unless you make it so. The level of closeness that is seen as "romantic/sexual" varies a lot between cultures and people.

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marshmallowlips•

Yeah I have taken a (drunken) hotel shower with my best friend before. We just sat on the floor of the shower under the hot water continuing to drink. I’m not saying I’d do it with any/all friends but it does happen. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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NotDido•

Idk I’m a bi woman and I’d be down for a platonic sauna or bubble bath. It’s only “romantic-level intimate” if you feel that way. It can just be platonic. I’ve gone skinny dipping and to a nude restaurant with friends

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MunchieCrunchy•

Considering they're are also many cultures where things like group/public bathing are common activities that don't necessarily carry a sexual or romantic connotation automatically, as well as things like nude beaches I agree.

Then again, I'm a nudist myself so I might hold a bias in that regard. At the same time I will admit there are some friends I'll toss something on for and others I won't, but that's more for their comfort than mine. My mind just doesn't connect "Seeing me naked" with "I want to screw this person."

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Student_Arthur•

I think it's not that the author thinks that, it's his dick that thinks that

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DefinitiveEuphoria•

I've done it. Super fun. Drugs were involved.

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cawatxcamt•

I think it depends on the dynamic among friends. I’ve seen most of my platonic friends of both sexes naked, but I know we aren’t exactly the norm. This has also been fairly consistent throughout my adult life and several friend groups in different areas of the country, so although seeing people naked isn’t a thing I specifically seek out when making friends, something in the other personality traits I do seek out makes comfort with platonic nudity a common side trait.

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JojoHendrix•

I do, but I’m in love with my best friend so 🤷‍♀️

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Yourwtfismyftw•

There’s a movie with Michelle Williams called “Me Without You” about two friends who were like this from early childhood. Honestly I think the point was that they WERE codependent and unhealthy, but they would bathe together and share cigarettes that were held in one’s toes among other things.

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Shredder5780He/Him•

I’m cool with taking a bath, me and the boys

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SBCrystal•

I've honestly had baths with my lady friends before. It's fun. I mean, yeah we had sex after but the bath was more about Sekt and bubbles.

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LadyNelsonsTea•

Fyi, Sekt is sparkling wine/champagne in English

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SBCrystal•

Oh yes, thanks for clarifying. I didn't want to write Champagne because I've been EU-indoctrinated. ;)

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Kichigai•

Along those same lines, Don't Say VELCRO®.

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CongratulationsGod•

A bath, sparkling wine, and sex with a woman is how I want to die.

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I_am_salad•

How will you fit the coffin in the tub with you?

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Which part kills you?

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CongratulationsGod•

I'm thinking some sort of Killing Eve scenario where we become wildly possessive and dangerously obsessed with each other until it ends in extreme sexual tension and homicide.

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Ninauposkitzipxpe•

You had me in the first half

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ninjapino•

No homo

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Dixavd•

Trying to fit two adults in one bath seems incredibly uncomfortable.

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OfLiliesAndRemains•

It can be really nice but it's almost impossible not to let the genitals touch

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dream6601•

You have to find the right tub. Me and my girlfriend found a big enough tub for us both to stretch out in it at the same time in a hotel. We didn't even have sex (too tied at the time) but it was magic

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QueerWorf•

you can have sex while tied up

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catwithahumanface•

The real LPT is in the comments

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dream6601•

I'd love to have sex tied up My girl is vanilla though, that was a typo I meant tired.

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I can't even fit one of me. I'm slightly too tall, so either I scoot down to get my torso in the water and my legs are sticking out or vice versa. Some part of me is always cold...

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BioHackedGamerGirlShe/Her•

This. I have yet to sit in a bathtub that has a base longer than my legs. Put another person in there and we'd both be either in the Sojus pose or scissoring. ^(not that I'd mind)

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diligentPond18•

Some part of me is always cold...

Aww lmao. This made me laugh.

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Katawa_Shounen•

It's actually really great, you just have to fold your legs a bit and face the same way

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dootdootplot•

Worth, though. You can sit facing one another, or sit-spoon, both provide opportunities for physical intimacy. And like yes we’re all thinking it, the potential for sexual play is there, but you can actually just not do that and still have a nice bath all up in each other’s space. Plus baths are nice because it makes more sense to just lay around and relax - in a shower, you’re on a mission.

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Shredder5780He/Him•

I can’t fit my teenage ass in my tub

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genkitaco•

Maybe y’all’s friendships are different from mine, but same sex bathing was never a sexual thing for me unless I was romantically pursuing the person. But that’s probably the Japanese culture in me 🤷🏻‍♀️

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SongofNimrodel•

Yeah, about to ask about this American bullshit. "Nudity? With two of the same gender? Must be gay."

Lol ok, I'll keep that in mind for next time I'm in a sauna... or a bath with a platonic friend. Americans are so weird about nudity.

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Littlebigcountry•

Yeah, outside all the good content rightfully calling shit out, this sub has a bad habit of sort of doing the inverse of what the point is - assuming homosexuality when there’s a perfectly platonic explanation.

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silentxem•

Some of us think it's ridiculous as well. I'm perfectly comfortable being nude around my platonic friends. We do a lot of skinny dipping, or if we're camping just changing in front of people and the like. Or just chilling if it's private property.

But what can I say, we're a culture that has its roots in puritanical values. A *lot* of people find it completely bizarre. Hell, I've gotten shit from some woman I didn't even know because I had the audacity to not wear a bra. Come to think of it, that happened in middle school as well.

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Beholding69•

It definitely is.

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MiNaLi12•

I used to bath with my best friend and I'm German so probably not🤷🏼‍♂️ but it's probably still very different in America as the level of nudity that is traditionally appropriate around people you're not romantically or sexually involved with is, from what I know, very low. Germany is a bit more open, especially between friends so I guess it really is a cultural thing

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LittleLion_90•

For me it's even a situational thing. My sister in law is a good friend and we often showered together (in multiperson showers) or changed clothes while being somewhere or having a sleepover/sharing a tent. But the moment I walked into her naked in the room she shared with her husband on our vacation, even though she was clearly just changing, I startled and apologised and backed of, and she was like 'why are you backing off, we do this all the time'.

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ace-writer•

I feel like the only reason I'd consider a bath specifically something I'd never do platonically is because I definitely don't have access to a bathtub I could sit in with 'just a friend' comfortably.

Like I'd be cool platonically showering with someone, skinny dipping, sauna/steam room, ect. The nudity isn't the problem (and yes I'm American).

It's the fact that I can't think why the fuck I'd want to take a bath with someone unless I want to touch them naked. Like I literally wouldn't be able to avoid doing so comfortably, I don't know why I'd want to be in that situation.

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lickytytheslit•

Unfortunately I found out I was pretty gay while having a bath with two other women.No neither are gay.So it was platonic.

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thtowawaway•

How big was the bathtub tho

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lickytytheslit•

Don’t know the mesaurments but it fits 3 15-16 yo girls.

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thtowawaway•

Do you know the model number? That's exactly the sort of situation I need to plan for.

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lickytytheslit•

Man I was drunk and didn’t think to remember it

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mysteryman151•

I only know one girl who ever claimed to be able to have baths/showers with her best friend while claiming to be straight

They've been dating a year now, they're cute as fuck together and I never fell for it

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MiNaLi12•

I mean I used to take baths and showers with my best fiend (who is bi) and we're in no way into each other and nothing ever happened sooooooo it's definitely not a rule that everybody who is naked around their sexuality-wise compatible friends is automatically into them

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19-91•

Thank you for this!

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Volkera•

The one person who said she does that immediately says she has sex with those 'ladyfriends'

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It’s not about the bathing together, it’s about the things they’re saying. I mean, homeschooled so her beautiful mind wouldn’t be tainted, are you for real?

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Dorocche•

While this did still strike me as r/menwritingwomen, I figured she was mocking her parents, as though that's the dumb, stilted language they would use.

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GruntBlender•

To be fair, straight guys get naked together in a steam-filled room, this doesn't seem too different.

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catwithahumanface•

Yeah but facing each other in a bath tub is a recipe for rogue toe/genital contact.

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mariesoleil•

Two people in one five foot bathtub is pretty different than two people in a steam room, sauna, hot tub, etc. that isn’t private and anyone could walk in.

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Freysar•

What is this from? Looks interesting!

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InternetOtter•

I'm reasonably certain this is a Buffy the Vampire Slayer comic, though as of yet uncertain which one.

Edit: Okay, it is a Buffy comic - Season 8, Issue 8.

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gataattackOP•

Correct it’s from the second comic in “season 8”.

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SuenosdeFantasmas•

I thought this looked familiar! Its a shame what happens, though maybe it was probably for the best, considering the whole dangerous game aspect to it

Also in issue 12, Buffster also has a roll in the hay with another Slayer, and Xander walks in on them

Damn this making me want to go back and start reading the series again lol

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anthro_punk•

Yep, Buffy season 8 "No Future for you", Volume 2, or issues #6-9. Great story arc. I loved getting more backstory and 1st person narration from Faith. Now if only Faith had actually hooked up with that one rogue slayer or hooked up with Buffy at the end.

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Freysar•

Thanks!

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ShadyHighlanderHe/Him, I've got your back!•

That explains a lot

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Which two characters are these?

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InternetOtter•

Genevieve "Gigi" Savidge and Faith Lehane. Faith being the one with the hair ornament.

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Maydaymaydaymay•

I have taken a naked bath with a platonic friend before.

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CleverSeedling•

Same! I've taken baths & showers with many platonic friends before. Especially when we were teenagers. It's nice to have someone to scrub your back 🤷‍♀️

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SpitefulGirl•

Me and my best friend (both of us align with wlw but are non binary) have shared baths and showers and saunas together but share nothing but platonic love? I've shared plenty of showers with women and it was just bcuz we wanted to keep chatting

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Orion_possibly•

I feel like this is also a good example of r/MenWritingWomen because I feel like some idiot men just think that women genuinely behave like this with their close but purely platonic friends

Spoiler: they don’t

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Some do. It’s entirely dependant on culture and personal comfort. Nudity isn’t as closely associated with sexuality outside of America. It’s just a body; we all have one.

Edit: though reading what they’re actually saying I do agree that sounds very r/menwritingwomen

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anthro_punk•

Can we just @ Joss Whedon somehow? Like Buddy, I love like 70% of your work, but don't tease us with lesbian subtext in season 3 and then when you finally write a canon lesbian you kill them in season 6 with a stray bullet. I love Buffy...but Joss doesn't write women, especially queer women, as well as he likes to think he does.

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Treemurphy•

tbf there are plenty of cultures where this is the norm, even in some parts of the US

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starajariba7•

Where is this from? :)

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gataattackOP•

It’s from the second buffy the vampire slayer comic for season 8

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starajariba7•

Thanks!":)

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Feezec•

Sophie turner and maisie William's did this on weed

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ohhh yes you reminded me

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00wolfQUEEN•

Some people just become desensitized to things at points in life.

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SarahTheGayNerd•

2 girls chilling in a bathtub, right next to eachother cause they are gay

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anthro_punk•

I'm always here for pointing out the queer subtext ever present in the characterization of Faith Lehane. For anyone wanting to know where this comic is from (I haven't read all the comments so maybe someone already said this), it's "No future for you" from the Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 8 comics. Honestly it's great cause it reveals more of Faith's backstory, but the fact she didn't hook up with this one slayer and the fact she also didn't get with Buffy after their fight is honestly disappointing. Come on, that much rage? Nah that's unresolved sexual tension. Faith was lusting for Buffy from the day she arrived in Sunnydale.

For the amount of subtext and hinting at Faith's bisexuality/pansexuality throughout the series and comics, it's obnoxious to never see it explicitly made canon. "Really we're just good friends", ok Buffy, just keep telling yourself that. Can you just stop trying to kill each other for a second and admit you're kinda gay?

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gataattackOP•

It’s incredible frustrating that they never explored her character more. They even make it clear that she doesn’t form emotional attachments to men and has no interest in them romantically.

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Shredder5780He/Him•

Depends if they’re five feet apart or not

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RedheadAsmodeusShe/Her•

Sauce?

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gataattackOP•

It’s the second buffy comic :)

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InternetOtter•

Buffy Season 8, issue 8.

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RedheadAsmodeusShe/Her•

Thanks.

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