Church in Single - Family Residential neighborhood with 20 meter wide parcels. How would you review?

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Church in Single - Family Residential neighborhood with 20 meter wide parcels. How would you review?

Posted Mar 4, 2020, 11:11 PM UTC

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TheFarix•

At present, places of worship are not involved in the 40m restrictions. So long as people don't be stupid like they were with "art", "murals", or passing backyard playsets as "playgrounds" in order to get a couch stop, then it will stay that way.

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bugpop31OP•

We know that conditions to reject always supercede conditions to accept. So what happens when the condition to reject is subjective?

Please be sure to closely review nominations whose real-world location appears to be within 40 meters of private, single-family residential property, and nominations whose real-world location appears to be in a neighborhood park. To be clear, nominations should be rejected if their real-world location appears to be on private, single-family residential property or might encourage people to go onto private property (e.g., because the real-world location is at the end of a private driveway).

I realize this isn't directing people to always reject. My rule of thumb was to consider barriers as preventing casual trespass, so fences, walls, and landscaping were instrumental in evaluating the risk of casual trespass.

This is the first time I have come across a nomination that did not have a barrier to clearly evaluate risk of casual trespass. Placed at the middle, the footprint of the 40 meter radius reaches 3 PRP parcels, none having a barrier to restrict casual trespass.

Edit: clarifying trespass as casual trespass. Trespassers are going to trespass, no matter where wayspot is, however there's the type of casual trespass that comes from being naive we can prevent.

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MargariteDVille•

Don't ya love how their "To be clear" doesn't clear anything up. Different reviewers still read "40 meters" and "neighborhood park" expectations differently, because they are NOT CLEAR.

We don't have a legal right to put virtual stuff on property zoned Single Family Residence. Virtual stuff happens in a 40m radius around a wayspot.

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bugpop31OP•

In areas with zoning, zones designated as single family residential have provisions for other types of development including churches.

It might interest you that there is no zoning in the City of Houston.

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baltimorecalling:ingress::pgo:•

According to the Wayfarer site, the only outright reject within 40m of SFPRP are the following:

Play areas attached to or within 40 meters of private residences

Mounted or free-standing murals, paintings, fountains, sculptures, etc. on or within 40 meters of private residences.

Aside from that, I would use your best judgment to ensure that trespassing does not occur.

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TheFarix•

You forgot athletic fields. But those should be large enough to where the marker shouldn't be within 40m of PRP.

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bugpop31OP•

I had thought there were more instances where they directed rejection within 40 meters of PRP but I chalked it up to misremembering. I'm not seeing the 40 meter reject direction for athletic fields. Did I miss it? Ninja edit? Mandela effect?

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TheFarix•

https://wayfarer.nianticlabs.com/help#potentially-confusing-nominations

Athletic fields - Eligible, as long as they are publicly accessible. If the fields are marked by signs, submit the signs as Wayspots. Also, ensure that the Wayspot appears to be at least 40 meters away from a private residence.

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bugpop31OP•

facepalm

Thanks

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baltimorecalling:ingress::pgo:•

Good catch. Thanks!

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xoxRARITYxox•

I stumbled onto that today purely by accident. Would be handy if they had updated that in the same place as the other January ones. 🙄

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bugpop31OP•

https://niantic.helpshift.com/a/wayfarer/?p=web&s=wayspot-acceptance-criteria&f=ineligible-wayspots&l=en

https://wayfarer.nianticlabs.com/help#ineligible-wayspots

Please be sure to closely review nominations whose real-world location appears to be within 40 meters of private, single-family residential property, and nominations whose real-world location appears to be in a neighborhood park. To be clear, nominations should be rejected if their real-world location appears to be on private, single-family residential property or might encourage people to go onto private property (e.g., because the real-world location is at the end of a private driveway).

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SkywolfNINE•

Uhh put POI on church and if POI is on church property then you’re doing your job, if a police call is driving by a poi on street view that doesn’t mean you’d deny for obstructing emergency services (tho I’ve seen it anyways lmao)

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bugpop31OP•

We are advised directed to scrutinize POI within 40 meters of PRP, and reject nominations that are likely to encourage trespass.

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TommetjeVE:pgo:•

This might be an unpopular opinion but if we’d actually follow this rules there would be no wayspots left, at least where I live.

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bugpop31OP•

Hence we are having this discussion.

The January 2020 clarifications have specifically denied eligibility to any playground as well as any indoor (?!?) nomination within 40 meters of PRP.

At best the Wayspot is 10 meters away from PRP. I don't play Pokémon Go, but I have seen the caravans. This is complicated.

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xoxRARITYxox•

I don’t know where people keep coming up with this. It’s a blanket rule that applies everywhere just as reject anything on a school up to K12 applies everywhere. The lawsuit was in the US but it’s still their game, their rules. Same as it’s always been.

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TheFarix•

There aren't different rules for different locations or different people. The same rules apply equally to everyone, everywhere.

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micheleanne:pgo:•

I would review favorably but also would move the location pin so it is FIRMLY at the church and not in the middle of the street, as it appears to be now

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koolmike•

This. I feel as though if we rejected every POI for being within 40 meters of a house, we’d have so few. I think it’s fine as long as the location marker isn’t on the residence

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