Strv 122B
Remember how you could kill a 2A5 by shooting the hull?
Yeah, most 10.3 shells can't pen this thing's LFP.
Posted Mar 7, 2020, 8:19 PM UTC
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The LFP is completely immune to 3BM42, M829 and DM33.
The only shells that can pen it's hull is are the italian lolpen dart and the leclerc dart.
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What the FUCK!!!
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You know what's funny, the UFP is actually underperforming by about 110mm vs KE and 650mm vs CE.
(And no, that doesn't mean I believe it should be buffed, or that it should even exist in the first place).
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Yup
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First the Type 90, then the Ariete and now this shit.
Gotta make people buy them premiums yo.
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The Ariete was never OP, it's armour is shit.
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Yes but what it lacked in shitty aspects it made up in its hyper-powered railgun of a cannon that can penetrate literally everything with the exception of the 2A5's and CR2's cheeks, prompting people to grind it in order to enjoy not having to aim.
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And the Leclerc shell
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It's extra funny because this tank gets the Italian dart. Slrppj m/95.
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Not on the dev server.
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Good old gaijin. Shell the tank used is too powerful so just provide some antique German ones
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Just for anyone that sees this, the 122B has the same armour profile as the 2a5 currently so it is just suffering from the same bug as the 2a5 had on release.
So just chill for now.
Edit: Just do a protection analysis on the bottom 2mm of the internal composite and even though it should be ~220mm protection like the 2a5 its 550.
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Uhhh, no it's not. The bug the 2a5 had on release was that the composite was categorized as steel instead of NERA
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That's not a 122B mate. It's an A. Derp.
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Because you can see the mine protection plate from that angle?
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Because I can see the weight which is 2.5 tons too low. And also because it would make zero sense to add the B before the A.
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It can still get killed from hull with most upgraded 10.0 shells, can always be killed at the neck, got a massive weakspot on top of the turret that is very hard to hide....
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The powercreep the hell outta the balance school of F2P game design sucks.
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The power creep israel.
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Seriously, we need DM53/M829A2 now.
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The top of it's head is literally HE food, the Russians will just pog this thing's dome with an HE chonker meanwhile the other nations will just hope that their HEATFS gets a commander via the optics.
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One of the armour improvements the Swedish did was heavely reinforce the top of the turret against artillery etc.
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Well at least in the armor viewer, the Russian HE destroys it.
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wow hahaha
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125mm HE got nerfed twice, it was never even good in the first place
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Lmao what. 125he was a ohk or a 1HD all the time. It needed a nerf.
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Everyone thinks that until they try it for themselves, try hitting a tank moving 50kph(hell even 15kph), try hitting a tank more than 300m in front of you
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It's ok, tank gameplay takes little to no skill anyways
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Seriously what did Gaijin drink/smoke when they were adding this thing? Just for reference: Imagine they added a BETTER Leclerc/M1A2SEPV2, Challenger 2 or even a T90M to an another tree other than its original one? That’s so fucked up. I actually feel worse for the Germans because their top end of the line tank gets added in a better version for another tree. Never seen so much bs at once.
I don't know what they smoked but I know they lit them with dollar bills.
But the Germans never upgraded the armour on their leopard until very recently with some models of the a7
Which is completely wrong. The Germans kept upgrading their armor on every leopard. Starting from B-tech to C-tech on the 2A4 to C-tech and D-Tech on the 2A5. The 2A6 for example didn’t even use the early C-tech like the 2A5, and relies on E-tech. This basically means we would have even without add-on armor on the 2A6 a stronger upper hull and turret than on the Strv 122. The Swedes only added the add-on because they were not really satisfied with the hull armor for now (considering the Swedish 2A5 uses B-tech hull + the add on you see). The reason the Germans added add on armor on the 2A7 is because they were concerned about the new ammo fired from the 2A82 the Russians unveiled on their armata, which couldn’t pen the 2A6s turret anyway, but the hull was being punchable.
Your infromation is incorrect. Germany did upgrade the internal armor arrays, but not iin the way described by you.
No Leopard 2 received new armor when being upgraded to the 2A4 configuration, but newer models of the Leopard 2A4 were built with newer armor packages.
The Leopard 2A5 and Leopard 2A6 tanks of Germany are hybrids/bastards by combining old turrets (which were upgraded with new internal armor) and hulls from the last Leopard 2A4 production lots, as these required the least overhaul.
The Strv 122 has the same internal armor as the Leopard 2A5 and 2A6 turrets of Germany, but newer hull armor + add-on armor.
Strv 122 doesn't have the same armour as the 2a5. It has a B-tech hull with composite untop.
No, the Germans send a Leopard 2A5 (Improved) with a B-tech hull and C-tech turret. They were thinking that a C-tech turret is sufficient enough as the Swedes also thought. They upgraded them as you mentioned. The Germans didn’t buy those upgraded hulls because of money and just gave older 2A4s a new life. The 2A6 (not early variants) most likely got newer inserts for the turret and hull than C-tech and would rely on late D or E armor.
I thought the D tech were just extra packages they can put on and not an internal armour layout.
There are both internal and external armor modules made of Type D (Panzerung in D-Technologie) available for the Leopard 2.
It’s actually pretty complicated because the Germans kept their amour more secret than other countries. It would be kind of dumb to think that every country except the Germans have been upgrading their armor over the years? There are many variations of the C-tech (C1,C2,C3,...) which is also valid for D-Tech and other variants. D-tech is a internal armor package, that also can be made as an extra package. You‘re basically buying D-tech blocks. The 2A6 for example uses in its later variants only D-tech.
Edit: D tech isn't a base armour type, it only refers to add-ons like the skirts, wedges and roof protection for the 2A5/A6.
You make it sound like it's the first time, that another nation gets a better version than the nation, that originally made the vehicle.
This has become pretty normal practice over the years, maybe not for tanks, but for planes.
But this is not a German made tank though.
Strv 121 has 50% of the 2A4s repair price.
Even though it's the same tank.
I thought the strv121 was a C tech Leo? or is it just a carbon copy of the in game B tech 2a4?
The Strv 121 is a local designation to German Leopard 2A4 tanks (from the earlier production lots) loaned to Sweden. It is not a different tank and had Type B armor (Panzerung in B-Technologie).
A carbon copy.
Why on earth didn't they just add the proper strv121 with C tech and then just saved the Strv122 for later....
It indeed is just a B-tech copy
Bloody hell....
US: "first time?"
Feels good to me. Germans always gets other nations better equipment. This is justice.
Besides, you can just flank it! This isn't any more OP than the 2a5 was on its release. The fact that it's not tied to German teams means it'll perform better though.
Germany can get Leopard 2A5DK as an upgrade with similar hull armor package.
Or newer Leopard 2A6/7 mods with better armor.