Circle Brazil final rankings (contains finale spoilers)
Unlike the Circle US, Circle Brazil actually gave viewers a lot of insight into the final ratings. I tried to work out what everyone's final ratings were for everyone else based on the ratings they showed us, the final results, and filling in the gaps (I tried doing this for Circle US but there were too many open ends to figure it out definitively). Here is what I think each player gave everyone else. I bolded the ones shown in the episode:
- Dumaresq: 1st Marina, 2nd Ray, 3rd Luma, 4th JP
- JP: 1st Ray, 2nd Marina, 3rd Dumaresq, 4th Luma
- Luma: 1st JP, 2nd Ray, 3rd Dumaresq, 4th Marina
- Marina: 1st Dumaresq, 2nd JP, 3rd Luma, 4th Ray
- Ray: 1st Luma, 2nd Marina, 3rd JP, 4th Dumaresq
I'm pretty confident this is correct, because if you tried to switch any of these rankings around, the final outcome would have been different. For example, if Luma put Ray in 1st and JP in 2nd, then Ray would've had a higher overall ranking than Marina. But if you also switched Duma's rankings of Ray and JP, then JP would have a higher ranking than Ray.
However, there's still something missing here. In this scenario, Marina and Ray actually had the exact same rankings: one 1st, two 2nd, one 4th. Same with Dumaresq and Luma, they both have one 1st, two 3rd, and one 4th. Therefore, I think they must have used some sort of tiebreaker. My thought was they used the number of times as influencer as a tiebreaker, because that would give the advantage to Marina and Dumaresq, which is what is reflected in the final ranking.
I'm happy to write another comment showing my thought process, as well. I didn't want this post to get too long. Would also be happy to know if anyone thinks I got anything wrong.
Posted Mar 28, 2020, 7:16 PM UTC
You thought this out well. If your bolds are right then we definitely know two complete rankings and per your calculations on JP and Ray we know four complete rankings so it just leaves JPs rankings.
I was wondering what would happen in a tie in the last rankings. Number of times as influencers could work though that would put latecomers at a disadvantage as they had less opportunities. I was thinking maybe how quickly a contestant made their rankings, so whoever ranked quicker has their rankings win the tie breaker if there were any ties.
Edit: or maybe ties in the last rankings are broken by overall rankings from everyone else over the course of the season. It can’t just be from the next to last rankings because then Ray would’ve beat Marina, but Marina was high up in rankings a lot at first so I could see her average ranking overall being higher than Ray.
Edit again: one more thing- I don’t know if it’s possible for them to change their rankings after making one before submitting all, but the rankings shown on screen might not be the correct final ones if any of them changed them around before submitting.
Edit one last time: and, if anyone wants to be cynical, it’s possible that ties are broken by producers choice lol. I could definitely see producers preferring Marina over Ray and even Duma over Luma.
Definitely true. In the US version they do show Joey changing his final ranking of Shubham so I may be a little too trusting. But I don't know what they would gain from not showing someone changing a ranking they showed us, given how many rankings they actually did show us in the episode. Other than maybe them pre-selecting the winner and revealing just enough of the rankings to make it seem plausible (this is reality TV after all, and I'm sure rigging the outcome of the finale is a common practice). It's completely possible for JP to have ranked Marina 4th but the producers wanted Marina to win so they cut out most of JP's rankings to justify their choice of her winning.
I don’t think the producers just chose a winner disregarding the rankings, only that maybe if there’s a tie they break the tie themselves. But even then I still think it’s more likely there’s some other tie breaker.
As for JP, if he ranked Ray first, the rest of the way you put his rankings makes complete sense because it means he was strategically ranking from who he thought was weakest at top to strongest at bottom.
The reason they might show rankings from players before the players changed them is maybe to ramp up the suspense since they could still show a bunch of rankings but it’d make it harder to predict the winner before they tell us.
If I were to guess what I think is most likely though, it’s that all the rankings shown were the correct final ones, the ones you made were by process of elimination all correct, and there was some hidden tie breaker based on time submitting or past rankings.